The white students gathered around the fire, speculating why parts of the book were not already engulfed in flames.
Its a hard cover! shouts one male student in a video amid laughs as ripped- out pages burn, torn from a novel written by a Hispanic author who had suggested white people are treated differently in society.
That angered some students at Georgia Southern University.
In response to Jennine Capó Crucets talk on the Statesboro, Ga., campus Wednesday, where she focused her discussion on white privilege, students gathered at a grill and torched her novel Make Your Home Among Strangers about a first-generation Cuban American woman struggling to navigate a mostly white elite college.
What makes you believe that its okay to come to a college campus, like this, when we are supposed to be promoting diversity on this campus, which is what were taught, one student said at the microphone, the paper reported. I dont understand what the purpose of this was.
Crucet responded that white privilege was evident within the question itself.
Other students had a different reaction and used photos and videos to troll Crucet on Twitter. One student sent a photo of ripped pages to Crucet over Twitter.
Enjoy this picture of your book! a tweet captured by the George-Anne said. Have a nice night, Jennine. :-)
*** The university is not planning to discipline any students for the burning incident, said Jennifer Wise, a university spokeswoman.
While its within the students First Amendment rights, book burning does not align with Georgia Southerns values ***
Crucet said on Twitter another event scheduled for Thursday was canceled because the administration said they could not guarantee my safety or the safety of its students on campus because of open-carry laws.
Wise said the event a discussion with some first-year classes was canceled at the request of Crucets representative.
Other students were dismayed over the book burning, a violent rejection of speech most notoriously associated with Nazi Germany.
It makes me feel like we are being represented really badly. It makes me feel like these people make us look as a school and even as a freshman class really ignorant and racist, Carlin Blalock, a freshman music education student, told the George-Anne.
Just seeing it happen, I know they didnt read the book or they didnt care. Its so disrespectful to even think about doing anything to that book because thats her life story. I wish I could have been there to do something about it.
PEN America, a speech and literature advocacy group, said the book burning was deeply disturbing in a statement.
Book burning has a long history as a tactic to intimidate, silence, and denigrate the value of intellectual exchange, said Jonathan Friedman, the groups campus free speech director.
Students have the right to exercise their own freedom of expression and book burning is also a protected act of expression. But this symbolic gesture aimed not just to reject or refute ideas but to obliterate the very paper on which they were written.
Friedman also said the universitys statement did not go far enough in response.
It behooves the university to educate its students about why book burning is so inimical to open discourse and free expression.
Crucet concluded her Friday statement on the incident by saying that her book began as an act of love and an attempt at deeper understanding."
I hope GSU can act from the same place and work to affirm the humanity of those students who might understandably feel unsafe in the aftermath of the event and the book burning, and that the campus continues the difficult and necessary conversation that began in that auditorium.
#1: Tooconservative To: WWG1WWA (#0)
This book is a novel from ~2015.
The author followed that first book up with a new book of essays published last month, My Time Among the Whites: Notes from an Unfinished Education. Apparently, she herself did graduate from college but she wanted to write from the perspective of minorities who drop out of collage and blame the white people. Her first book is an all-school read at 25+ universities around the country and she is "an associate professor in the Department of English and the Institute for Ethnic Studies at the University of Nebraska". She is no doubt on the tenure track and will have a nice career bitching about white people for decades to come.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-12 09:55:39 Reply Private Reply
#2: misterwhite To: WWG1WWA (#0)
Because white people behave differently.
misterwhite posted on 2019-10-12 10:10:11 Reply Private Reply
#3: misterwhite To: WWG1WWA (#0)
Well, the Germans didn't use a backyard grill. And they didn't burn the books of just one author.
But they did have one thing in common -- students burned those books in Nazi Germany, not the government.
misterwhite posted on 2019-10-12 10:19:33 Reply Private Reply
#4: A K A Stone To: misterwhite (#3)
Thanks for the information. I never knew that. I guess I just assumed it was the government. Thank You.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-12 10:26:30 Reply Private Reply
#5: Tooconservative To: misterwhite, A K A Stone (#3)
Not so fast.
The Nazis had taken over the German students union. They then attacked the Berlin's Institute for Sex Research, burning 20,000 books and 5,000 photos. Notice they initially portrayed themselves as protecting traditional morality against the pervs. And during the interregnum, Germany was certainly a hotbed of sexual perversion. Like Italy but more so.
From there, the Nazi student union expanded its burnings to Karl Marx and a popularizer of Marxism, the Czech-Austrian writer/philospher Kautsky. They then expanded their list of books to burn.
But it was always a Nazi organization, deeply embedded in the Nazi party structure who burned books.
Let's not have any of this "The Nazis didn't burn any books, it was just some unruly students".
It was the Nazis. Period.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-12 10:41:26 Reply Private Reply
#6: A K A Stone To: Tooconservative (#5)
I did a quick google search before posting. It said students at universities burned the books. Ok they were nazi students. Kind of like Antifa.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-12 10:52:32 Reply Private Reply
#7: misterwhite To: Tooconservative (#5)
The Nazi government? If the Nazi government wanted to burn books there was nothing to stop them.
No doubt these German students were part of the Nazi Party, so if you want to claim "Nazis" burned books I won't argue. But my point was that it wasn't the Nazi government.
I'm guessing the students who burned Jennine Capó Crucets books are conservatives and members of the Republican Party. Are history books going to blame the federal government because Trump was President?
misterwhite posted on 2019-10-12 11:07:14 Reply Private Reply
#8: sneakypete To: misterwhite (#2)
Shhhhhh!
You are NOT supposed to say that!
What are you,some sort of racist?
I'm temped to report you to the Tan Klan!
sneakypete posted on 2019-10-12 14:53:17 Reply Private Reply
#9: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#5)
Sometimes it's the Nazis,and sometimes it's the Bible-Thumpers,and sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.
sneakypete posted on 2019-10-12 14:55:35 Reply Private Reply
#10: Tooconservative To: misterwhite (#7)
The early book burnings, Kristallnacht, the Night of the Long Knives, all were directly instigated by the Nazi party.
There was, effectively, no separation between Nazi government and the Nazi party. Any distinctions were mostly arbitrary. The Nazi government did what the Nazi party wanted. And the party did what Hitler wanted. That was kind of the whole point.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-12 17:12:57 Reply Private Reply
#11: WWG1WWA To: A K A Stone (#6)
WWG1WWA posted on 2019-10-13 08:38:58 Reply Private Reply
#12: misterwhite To: Tooconservative (#10)
For the second time. That's not the issue. I said the book burnings were not carried out by the German government. And they weren't. They were done by university students who, more than likely, were members of the Nazi Party.
Kristallnacht was carried out by the Sturmabteilung (SA) who were the Brown Shirts, a paramilitary organization.
The Night of the Long Knives was a government operation, but it was directed against the Sturmabteilung and their supporters who were getting too big for their britches.
misterwhite posted on 2019-10-13 10:25:38 Reply Private Reply
#13: misterwhite To: WWG1WWA (#11)
The Hitler Youth supported Hitler and the Nazi government.
Antifa is an anti- government terrorist mob.
misterwhite posted on 2019-10-13 10:30:32 Reply Private Reply
#14: Tooconservative To: misterwhite (#12)
Not wanting to get into this in great detail, but aren't you giving the SA in Kristallnacht and the even SS (and Gestapo and Goering's secret police) in the Night massacre a successful Nuremberg defense? The S.A. is described as "a paramilitary organization" but in truth they were civilians with no official standing with the German state. Aren't you trying to say these thugs were "just following orders"?
I'm saying the Nazi party was the source of the political sentiment and the source of the persons who carried out these pogroms (and the book burnings). And they were the party in power that ignored their duty to uphold the law during these flagrant offenses against existing German law. In fact, German law in the Nazi era became completely irrelevant whenever it conflicted with party doctrine in official and non-official policy, including organized mass violence. German law was, for practical purposes, what the Nazi party wanted it to be and what was written as established statutory law was irrelevant.
All of it came directly from the Nazi party and nowhere else.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-13 10:38:42 Reply Private Reply
#15: misterwhite To: Tooconservative (#14)
Not at all. Actually, I think the SA was a loose cannon and was viewed as a threat by the German government. Hence the Night of the Long knives.
misterwhite posted on 2019-10-13 10:56:29 Reply Private Reply
#16: Tooconservative To: misterwhite (#13)
They were conscripted into the Nazi party youth organization at an early age. Very few could resist as there were considerable consequences, including the possibility that your entire family could get sent to a concentration camp as subversives.
Many would have joined Hitler Youth anyway. But certainly not everyone. Hitler Youth was a method to try to remake the entire political outlook of the German nation in the Nazi mold, sweeping away German traditions of political freedom, democracy, established laws and their enforcement, human rights, etc.
One could make that same description of the Nazi party's S.A. division. Recruited from thugs and the uneducated and especially in prisons, the S.A. were the street fighters and shock troops of the Nazi party. At the time, the Communists of Germany were quite militant and had their own paramilitary fighting wing. The S.A. street fighters did battle with the Commie street fighters in many major cities around Germany, particularly in southeastern Germany, a real hotbed of communist activity. At the end of WW I, for instance, the German commies instituted their own soviet, the Bavarian Soviet Republic. Those elements and sympathies did remain during the Twenties and part of what helped the Nazis gain power was the public's fear of communist takeover of parts of Germany, a dismemberment of the German state along the lines of the Bolshevik takeover of Tsarist Russia. Hitler ranted against the commies endlessly during his rise to become chancellor.
I would compare Antifa to the Nazi S.A. as the most similar organization. Except this time, Antifa is a pro-Left pro-commie movement where the S.A. was an anti-communist movement in practice. But what led Hitler to exterminate the S.A. leadership was Rohm's insistence on fulfilling Nazi doctrine that the S.A. would become a merger of their thugs with the German army. The price of the industrialists and the Army for Hitler's chancellorship was the elimination of the S.A. Rohm kept insisting on fulfilling the socialist part of the NSDAP (Nazi) name.
The S.A. was 20 times bigger than the army Germany was allowed to have under the Versailles treaty and it did contain a great many veterans, along with a large number of ex-officers downsized from the army. The Prussian military families did not intend to allow that rabble of homegrown socialist commies to take over their army. So Hitler killed off the S.A. leadership to appease them.Anyway, Antifa does bring the S.A. to mind. Compelled collectivization, wealth redistribution, establishing the state as the means of coerced wealth transfer, street violence, etc.
The S.A. did share one thing with the commie street fighters: socialist doctrine. They were just fighting over who was supposed to enjoy the spoils of victory.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-13 11:04:50 Reply Private Reply