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Watching The Cops Title: Why We Hate Cops To validate my charge against you, I refer you to article published in The Libertarian Enterprise and titled: Why We Hate Cops. The article follows: I've gotten the impression lately that cops aren't getting very much support in Internet forums these days, even in places where in the past you'd find almost unqualified support. About everyone seems fed up with 'em. I wondered why this should be. Why are they becoming so much more frequently scorned? Is it because they are parasites, tax eaters? They are that, but I find this implausible; if only because 95% of the population is on the dole in some way. Government schools, Socialist Security, Medicare, farmer and rancher subsidies, corporate welfare, people working for war materiel suppliers, the list goes on and on. It's hard to imagine folks getting riled about that aspect. Miss Smith the friendly librarian is no different, and who hates her? Cops are a waste of tax dollars, but so is everything government does with tax dollars. I think one reason cops are hated is that people generally don't like being scrutinized, and put under suspicion for minding their own business; they really, really don't like that. Cops are always checking you out, looking for a reason to "brace" you (an old meaning of the word that looks very useful these days). The War on Some Drugs has to cause some hatred, as more and more peoples' lives are ruined by it. Indeed, this prison industry boondoggle has stained all aspects of the "Justice" system, not just cops. Another reason is that cops are treated, and see themselves, as superior to the rest of us. In innumerable ways, cops are always given the benefit of the doubt; certainly legally, and also informally—although the latter seems to be fading a bit, as trust in cops fades. They are "The Only Ones", we are "mundanes", "proles", peons. They can lie to us, we can't lie to them; they can beat us up and torture us, but if we touch them it is "assault". Along with this insufferable attitude is a self-regard that what they are about is important and good. I suppose everyone suffers from this malady, but usually it does not impact a person as it does when one runs into a cop in the throes of it. As C.S. Lewis put it, "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good, will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." What are cops, if not "omnipotent moral busybodies"? At least when the Mafia runs a protection racket, they don't deceive themselves they are doing you a benefit. One appreciates the Mafia's honesty, in comparison. Notice, all of the above applies to all cops, "good" and bad. Now, there is a significant fraction of rotten cops, and some departments are overrun with them. There are lots of cops who enjoy playing the bully. But do we hate cops because they are as imperfect as we are? It's hard to say. On one hand, if a person agrees policing must be done, and that government must do it, then it would be somewhat irrational to fuss about a small percentage of bad cops (although getting them out—good luck—might be a reasonable aim). On the other hand, even for those who agree with these premises, it's one thing to talk about this theoretically—another thing entirely to watch a cop beating a pregnant woman on youtube. There is one final reason to hate cops. All through history, every tyranny has used cops as its primary tool for sustaining that tyranny. They are the point of the government spear. And let's not deceive ourselves, although most "good" cops probably do deceive themselves about this—if we ever descended into a Nazi- or Stalinist-sized hellhole, few if any cops would resign. Some might feel bad about what they are doing, but they would never resign. Their livelihood comes first; it goes without saying. My guess though, is that this consideration does not enter peoples' minds when they are hating cops. It will if we decend into that hellhole, but not before. People are questioning all sorts of government "benefits" these days, so it's not surprising cops are being questioned too. Looks like many folks are coming to the conclusion they are not worth the trouble. Maybe it's just a return to sanity. Cops had it pretty good in this country for a long, long time. My impression, in talking to foreigners, is that cops are normally assumed to be crooks and thugs. Maybe we're just finally opening our eyes. Salute, Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-18) not displayed.
If a cop in real life acted like Barney you would want him fired for his clumsiness and wreckless handling of a gun. Of course I would, wouldn't you? ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #20. To: Deckard (#19) Of course I would, wouldn't you? Yes but you seem to hold him up as an example of how police should behave.
#21. To: A K A Stone (#20) Yes but you seem to hold him up as an example of how police should behave. He was a fictional bumbling fool who couldn't handle a weapon. Not exemplary behavior to be sure - but he never actually shot someone or a family pet. I would like to see more cops like Andy though and fewer like Rambo. ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #22. To: A K A Stone (#20) Deckard's problem isn't with the cops. It's with the laws they enforce. But it's easier to criticize the cops rather than change the laws. End of story.
#23. To: misterwhite (#22) But it's easier to criticize the cops rather than change the laws. End of story. Why is it so hard to change laws? It seems like the function of the constitution has been altered and now we have unconstitutional things set in stone with now way to change them. Once the Supreme court sets precedents and alters the true meaning of the constitution. It is almost impossible to change things back. Because of 12 people who are honestly exercising power they were never given. They usurped that power if we are all honest with ourselves. So it is kind like those "checks and balances" we hear about are now being used to make it hard or impossible to get back to the true meaning of the constitution. So even when a clear majority want something it can be undone by dishonest judges. Prop 187 in California for example. The Americans voted to not give benefits to illegals. They stood up and did something. But a Judge said the will of the people wasn't allowed and they ruined California and it is ruining the rest of us now.
#24. To: misterwhite (#22) But it's easier to criticize the cops rather than change the laws. End of story. The videos I posted above are not because the cops were enforcing laws we don't like. They the police themselves were breaking the law and abusing citizens. So it isn't really the end of the story but just a chapter, part of the story. Lots of the problem is from police abusing their power and breaking the law themselves. Then they get away with it because they are the police. You act like that doesn't happen or it is extremely rare. People are sinners and the police abuse their power a lot. Just like any person would. Or any nation.
#25. To: Deckard (#12) Once again – and yet another in the multitude of times – you have misapplied an adjective phrase when you str attempting to make relevant the very well known phrase “a license to kill” that is used as a “literary device” in “espionage fiction.” So, – DEEP SIGH – you have performed the act in this instance of applying an adjective phrase incorrectly to improperly describe a situation in order to further so horrifically promote your cop-hating agenda motive. It is only in novels and movies that a “license to kill” is used as the official sanction by either a government to allow “one particular operative” – a James Bond type – to initiate the use of lethal force in the delivery of the government’s objective. Therefore, Deckard, your use of this all to familiar literary device that is often times used in espionage fiction was grossly misused here. Because “national outrage” is clearly defined as … Deckard, all of this goes to show you that you never “THINK” – you only always “REACT” and mostly you “OVER REACT.” What you did in your post to me here is something you commonly do. Which was to grab onto an old overused trite phrase, then look quickly in the VAST library of your catalogued copy and paste links to think “oh, this one fits” and then far to speedily write your post. Shame on you … You definitely need to STOP REACTING and to START THINKING - You libertarian asshole. Salute, Deckard, please let me know if you read this entire post - Thank you.
#26. To: misterwhite, Deckard, A K A Stone (#22) Deckard's problem isn't with the cops. It's with the laws they enforce. Damn ... This is so truthful - I wish I had posted it. Thanks ...
#27. To: Gatlin (#26) My post 24 defeated the premise that you wish you posted.
#28. To: A K A Stone, misterwhite (#24) But in posting – as you did - only those 3 videos you were then presenting a biased partial picture that could be taken by the ill-informed and stupid as a representation of actions by all cops and not the less that 1%. You may have noticed that I then tried to balance your biased presentation by showing numerous videos of the other more that 99% of actions by all other cops.
#29. To: A K A Stone, misterwhite (#27) While it is true that less than 1% of cops are bad and action should be taken against them – it is however imperative that for people to get and understand both sides, you need to show the other more that 99% of the force that are officers performing their assigned dury as they are expected to. There will never be a 100% perfect law enforcement mechanism. It is unfortunate that we are destined to live with the less than 1% bad cops while they will continually be weeded out. To constantly post anti-cop articles and videos will serve absolutely no purpose to that end. I yield back the remainder of my time to misterwhite – I hve to go now. Salute,
#30. To: A K A Stone (#23) Why is it so hard to change laws? I will still take time to quickly answer your question before I go. The answer to your questions is ... ... because we have inept politicians who seek political power and personal monetary gain more than they seek results that satisfy citizens of this great Republic.
#31. To: Tooconservative (#13) But there was nothing mean spirited in me while performing the much needed and well deserved “rubbing,” For I was never motivated by cruelty nor did I ever intend to be hurtful – I was merely performing a civic duty and doing it with the positive social force that bound me to the courses of action so demanded by that force. Salute,
#32. To: misterwhite (#22) But it's easier to criticize the cops rather than change the laws. End of story. Absofuckingloutly. Spot on.
#33. To: Gatlin (#25) As I also remember that I kicked you ass to hell and back all over the thread Still suffering from delusions of adequacy, eh Gatslime? Because “national outrage” is clearly defined as …
… anything that strongly offends, insults, or affronts the feelings. a powerful feeling of resentment or anger aroused by something perceived as an injury, insult, or injustice that seized the ENTIRE NATION at the news of it. If you're not outraged by this, then you have no soul, no empathy, no humanity. That you defend this only further displays your servile worship of all things cop.
![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #34. To: Deckard (#33) (Edited) Outrage is is defined as an extremely strong response of uncontrolled anger and emotional hostility. Unlike you, I never react to anything with uncontrolled anger and emotional hostility. I am mentally mature and use rational thinking to react with clear thought and good judgment. Furthermore, it would be idiotic for me to react without being able to take a contrary course of action that would alleviate the condition or solve the problem I was confronting. So, I ask, Deckard, what are doing about the “bad cop” problem that controls your mind? Oh, right – you are diligently and predictability showing up each morning on LF to post a few articles you searched for and found on the internet that shows some bad actions by of a couple of bad cops out of the almost 800,000 full time sworn personnel. Attaboy, you go Deckard – You da man!!! Deckard, it is well known to everyone on this forum that you continually express great forceable anger and outrage over actions by bad cops and that you go after them with vigorous impetuosity. You have done so for over 10 years. … for over 10 years … Wow, just WOW. A few bad cops doing some evil things is of course wrong. I wish to call to your attention to something you can direct your unbridled anger towards – something that is far more wrong than what a few bad cops are doing. In fact, the wrong I am about to address is grossly immoral and morally bad. It is truly wicked, sinful, despicable and so nefariously iniquitous that you need to redirect your anger towards it. Just look at the shocking fact that … I understand that anger is a normal and natural emotion. But I also know that when anger is directed towards a source of lesser importance, that in our society it is often correctly referred to as "displaced anger." Ensuring that anger is directed towards the right and the appropriate source is paramount. In conclusion, I am here today to ask you where is your outrage about abortions and to submit an Impassioned plea that you take the time and effort you devote to ferreting out and posting articles about bad cops – to redirect the passionate vehemence anger you have towards them and move it towards the 1 in 4 obstetricians and gynecologists who are killing 1,748 babies each and every day in America. This is a call for action. It is something you can do – the question is, will you? … 1,748 babies will be murdered in this country today … Uh, how many bad cops have you discovered today? Salute,
#35. To: Gatlin (#34) In conclusion, I am here today to ask you where is your outrage about abortions I've made my beliefs known about abortion on this forum numerous times. I am firmly pro-life. ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #36. To: Gatlin (#34) Uh, how many bad cops have you discovered today? Does this count? Sheriff Mistakes Innocent Man for Suspect, Dumps 10 Rounds Into Him—NO CHARGES Wrong color and type of truck, yet this psycho cop nearly killed an innocent man. I'm sure you'll find some convoluted and delusional way to excuse this trigger-happy sociopath. ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #37. To: Deckard (#35) It is such a nebulous ratio that it is so small that it is incalculable, right? right? … 1,748 babies will be murdered in this country today … Uh, Deckard, how many bad cops are you angry at today? Salute,
#38. To: Deckard (#36) (Edited)
#39. To: Gatlin (#37) How often have you done that Asked and answered. Numerous times.
Stop being an idiot. ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #40. To: Gatlin (#38) Ever so proudly do you post that while ignoring the fact that 1,748 babies will be murdered in this country today by abortion. Not ignoring anything strawman. Shameful … so pathetically shameful. What's shameful is you trying to portray me as pro-abortion. Typical Gatslime ploy. ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #41. To: Gatlin (#38) Sheriff Mistakes Innocent Man for Suspect, Dumps 10 Rounds Into Him—NO CHARGES HE'S A "HERO"!!! Right copsucker? ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #42. To: Deckard (#39) The killing of 1,748 babies in this country today by abortion should be of far greater importance to you than a couple articles about a few of cops doing something bad out of almost 800,000. Why isn’t it – WHY? Salute,
#43. To: Deckard (#41) (Edited) Why can’t you do that – WHY? Salute,
#44. To: Gatlin (#43) It would be “right” – for you to address the killing of 1,748 babies in this country today by abortion I've posted numerous articles condemning abortion. You've derailed the thread, another common Gatslime tactic. We're done here.tal ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #45. To: Deckard (#44) Just think, instead of posting your few articles about bad cop daily, you could turn your attention towards being very efficiency-minded and urging all the major pro-life groups to merge into one gigantic organization. It would probably be very financially efficient – ya think? Probably not – since unfortunately the “reality” in your world usually gets in the way of undertaking such things because you mind is always working with its strategic conflicts. One may think that you paying attention to a couple bad cops each day is more important that the killing of 1,749 babies. Wait – that is exactly what you are doing … Sad – Ever so sad that you are ignoring articles like these … Democrat Politician Claims We Need to Kill Babies in Abortions to Reduce Crime. California Lawmakers Consider Abortion Pills On Campus And many – many – more such articles … Salute,
#46. To: Deckard (#40) Not ignoring anything … You're not ignoring it – That’s purt BULLSHIT. You can begin showing that you are not ignoring it by giving as much attention to the fact that there are 1,748 babies being murdered in this country each day by abortion – in place of the attention that you are giving daily to a couple of bad cops out of almost 800,000 law enforcement officers. Salute,
#47. To: Gatlin (#46) Not ignoring anything … I posted comments on your abortion thread, and you immediately went psycho and attacked me with your unnecessarily vicious, hate filled screed - typical for you. Act like an adult for a change you mouth-breathing assclown. ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #48. To: Gatlin (#46) You can begin showing that you are not ignoring it by giving as much attention to the fact that there are 1,748 babies being murdered in this country each day by abortion Contrary to your delusions, and the voices in your head - you do NOT get to decide what posters here can discuss or post. Frickin' Nazi prick. ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #49. To: Deckard (#48) (Edited) I want to most sincerely thank you for your considerate and heartfelt reply. I was in no way “deciding” anything. What I did was simply present a resolution I reached after deep consideration and one that you unfortunately found to be provocative. After you regain your composure, perhaps reading the information in the following article will be of great assistance to you … I was only trying to help you - there was no reason for you to get so UPSET that you called me ... Say you're sorry ... Salute,
#50. To: Deckard (#49) Frickin' Nazi prick. You sorry yet ...
#51. To: All (#50) Frickin' Nazi prick. I will give you one last chance ... Are you ready to say you're sorry yet? If you aren't, then ...
#52. To: Gatlin (#51) Are you ready to say you're sorry yet? Then what? You'll run away and pout? ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #53. To: Gatlin (#51) Frickin' Nazi prick. You're probably not a Nazi. You just post like one. Still an obnoxious, self-aggrandizing prick though. ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #54. To: Deckard (#53) Frickin' Nazi prick. Say you're sorry ... I will accept that as your humble esteemed apology. There is still hope for your redemption, yet. Albeit ever so very little ...
#55. To: Deckard (#52) Are you ready to say you're sorry yet? “You shall have no fear for I am now with thee” in good stead - since you already did apologize.
#56. To: Gatlin (#54) Still an obnoxious, self-aggrandizing prick though. I wouldn't go that far - I am however delighted that you didn't do what you usually do when you are "offended" - that is to run away crying. As much as i detest your constant shilling for the police state, I do find your submissive authority fetish hilarious yet pathetic. ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #57. To: Deckard (#56) I will accept that as your humble esteemed apology. You can't take it back. No matter had hard you try.
#58. To: Deckard (#56) (Edited) Gotta run now ... Later ... [No pun intended ...]
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