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Title: Report: Some NFL players may sit out the season unless Kaepernick -- and Eric Reid -- are signed
Source: HotAir
URL Source: https://hotair.com/archives/2018/05 ... s-kaepernick-eric-reid-signed/
Published: May 28, 2018
Author: Allahpundit
Post Date: 2018-05-29 05:14:36 by Tooconservative
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Views: 2920
Comments: 58

How many activists need to be signed before sufficient wokeness has been achieved to play ball?

You can certainly trust hyper-progressive activist Shaun King to give you the straight dope on what star NFL players are and aren’t thinking:
BREAKING: Several star @NFL players have told me they are considering sitting out the season until the de facto ban of Eric Reid and Colin Kaepernick is removed and both men are given spots back on rosters.

They aim to get 25% of the players to sit out with them.

— Shaun King (@ShaunKing) May 27, 2018

Reid was one of the first players to kneel alongside Kaepernick during the national anthem and has since filed his own collusion grievance against the league. He went unsigned in the offseason despite being a top-10 safety by some metrics and after saying that he didn’t plan to kneel during the anthem anymore. Even so, the only team to give him a tryout was the Bengals — and the team’s owner allegedly asked him when they met about whether any anthem protests were in the cards for him this season, which took Reid aback. He went unsigned.

As for King, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk asks a good question. If there’s anything to these player boycott threats, we should see evidence of it in pre-season workouts soon, no?
If they’re truly considering staying away from training camp and/or the regular season, it will get very expensive. Teams can fine players up to $40,000 per day for skipping camp. In addition to any forfeited game checks, players will be susceptible to an attack on any unearned amounts of signing bonuses they previously have received…

Besides, if players truly thinking about sitting out at great expense later, why not sit out at little or no expense now? The Organized Team Activities are voluntary, and more than a few players are skipping them for a variety of reasons. If “several NFL stars” are thinking about sending a message later, why not send a message immediately?

Players who sympathize with Kaepernick might feel pressure to take collective action on his behalf if he had no other recourse against the league but the grievance process is in motion and he has a star lawyer in Mark Geragos. He stands a good chance of winning, especially given the political pressure being applied to the NFL by Trump. League owners have been candid about that behind closed doors, in fact:
“The problem we have is, we have a president who will use that as fodder to do his mission that I don’t feel is in the best interests of America,” said Kraft, who is a longtime supporter of Mr. Trump’s. “It’s divisive and it’s horrible.”

The owners were intent on finding a way to avoid Trump’s continued criticism. The president’s persistent jabs on Twitter had turned many fans against the league. Lurie, who called Trump’s presidency “disastrous,” cautioned against players getting drawn into the president’s tactics…

The Buffalo Bills owner Terry Pegula sounded anguished over the uncertainty of when Trump would take another shot at the league. “All Donald needs to do is to start to do this again,” Pegula said. “We need some kind of immediate plan because of what’s going on in society. All of us now, we need to put a Band-Aid on what’s going on in the country.”

I hope King is right, just because I want to see a drama play out in which a quarter of the league suddenly walks out indefinitely over a couple of players going unsigned. Quality of play would decline for awhile as scrubs were sent in to replace the boycotters; some playoff contenders would start slowly because they were missing key players, leading to frustration in the locker room. Owners would panic and want to get Kaepernick and Reid signed asap to end the walkout but that would only make anti-protest fans angrier. Any team that did sign one of them might decide to bench him rather than further inflame the issue by playing him.

Some fans who resolved not to follow the NFL anymore in outrage after the initial walkout would grudgingly come back after the player boycotts ended, but how many and how long would it take? Trump would milk the whole thing from start to finish because that’s just who he is — jeering the walkout, jeering the signing of Kaepernick, and possibly egging on a fan boycott over either or both even though the league has bent over backwards so far to appease him. With cord-cutting and disgust at CTE already leading some fans away from the game, being ground between the gears of black activism and Trumpy nationalism might leave the league in a state from which it never completely recovers. As someone who prefers MLB and the NBA, I say let’s get on with it.

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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Good. If they want to destroy their careers over politics, let them. There are other deserving players out there who will have a chance now because these guys have self-eliminated.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-29   6:40:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13, nolu chan (#1)

Not to be out-boycotted, the Perpetually Outraged are trying to start a new one.

DailyCaller: Keith Ellison Calls For NFL Boycott Over Ban On Anthem Protests

I'm trying to imagine who will win the Boycott Bowl.

The players? Keith Ellison and Lefty boycotters? Sponsors? Conservative fans? Trump?

Silly question really. Trump already set the table to win, no matter what.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-29   7:08:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tooconservative (#2)

Funny thing is, all of this is really a bonfire of the vanities as far as I am concerned. I have never been interested in, and never followed, any professional or college sports. With my daughter a world champion fencer, I follow that, but only on account of her.

I've always thought of sports as being something utterly unimportant, of no relevance to the real world whatever. It's a time-waster for kids, to keep them outside and active so they don't get fat. The notion that men get paid millions of dollars to throw around a ball strikes me as the very pinnacle of absurdity.

It has never offended me, though. People have the right to throw away their money at whatever they please. Where the portcullis of my mind has come slamming down time and again, though, is when public money - tax money - which is to say MY money - even a penny of it - is diverted for the FOR PROFIT activity of professional sports teams. Money is given to build stadiums, all sorts of legal concessions are made to these for-profit industries, and huge numbers of people think there's nothing wrong with that, even though there self-evidently IS something VERY wrong with that.

In truth, it is BECAUSE of all of the government subsidies for stadiums, and all of the special laws to give owners monopolies, and all of the kid-gloves treatments of pro-athletes, that I do not even have a tremor of regret when I call for things that other people - those who support all of this government subsidy of professional sports franchises - complain about "socialism".

I think: "Go blow it out your ear, you hypocritical doofus!" I think that taking care of the poor and the old and the sick is first priority stuff, and that sports are zero priority stuff, when it comes to government. And yet I get the gun stuck into my face and my tax money confiscated to go build sports stadia for billionaires. THEREFORE, I simply don't care that people don't like being taxed to pay for poverty relief. When the sports franchises are completely stripped of their illegal and immoral monopolies, and every farthing of public tax support, direct and indirect, is stripped from men PLAYING GAMES, pure entertainment, utterly worthless, senseless, of no value whatever - when THAT stops, THEN I'll worry about whether or not we should be feeding the poor and providing pensions to the old, and public schools.

UNTIL that stops, then my attitude is fuck all of you, you use my tax dollars to pay for men to wear tights and play ball games, you are GOING TO pay for the poor to eat, or I'm perfectly happy to shoot you dead, you greedy childish piece of shit.

That's pretty much where I am on the subject. Tax subsidies for professional sports is all that I need to full justify full blown socialism in everything I care about - sports are SO COMPLETELY USELESS that the fact they receive such huge subsidies cancels out, to me, all of the endless whining and bitching by man-children who love their subsidized sports. Go jerk off in your publicly-financed stadia and pay your taxes so the poor can eat, jerks.

So, seeing a bunch of grown men hyperventilate and threaten to...to...to DO something about nothingburgers - which is every single thing that happens at every professional sports event in every stadium, ever, from the dawn of the public subsidy to today...watching them turn red and stamp their little feetsies and be very PUT OUT about nonsense - I can't tell you how smugly superior it makes me feel. Go burn it all down and stay home in a snit. It's all stupid anyway, WHO CARES?

I don't.

I DO care that my tax dollars subsidize it. I care so much that it justifies the imposition of all of the rest of the "socialism" that I care about.

Until that hypocrisy is cleared away, nobody can really say fuck all to me about how they disagree with thus and so. Pay up. I pay for the stadium, you're gonna pay for the poor.

That's the way it's gonna be. I guess man-boys have to have their ball games. Then they gotta pay for unemployment insurance and social security. They're obviously not adult enough to make all of the decisions for themselves. They need the government to help them with their playgrounds, after all.

Oh, and get off my lawn! (Shakes fist)

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-29   8:23:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13 (#3) (Edited)

So, seeing a bunch of grown men hyperventilate and threaten to...to...to DO something about nothingburgers - which is every single thing that happens at every professional sports event in every stadium, ever, from the dawn of the public subsidy to today...watching them turn red and stamp their little feetsies and be very PUT OUT about nonsense - I can't tell you how smugly superior it makes me feel. Go burn it all down and stay home in a snit. It's all stupid anyway, WHO CARES?

Well, since you're in a killjoy mood, you might like this article where the writer invokes the ancient fathers of the church to condemn pro sports (Chrysostom, Irenaeus, Tatian, Tertullian, etc.).

The Federalist: It’s Time To Finally Admit Professional Sports Are Bad For Society, 5/21/18

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-29   9:26:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#4)

Well, since you're in a killjoy mood, you might like this article where the writer invokes the ancient fathers of the church to condemn pro sports (Chrysostom, Irenaeus, Tatian, Tertullian, etc.).

The Federalist: It’s Time To Finally Admit Professional Sports Are Bad For Society, 5/21/18

Professional sports are fine. I disagree with the "ancient Fathers" (often just on principle - the fact that somebody is citing to them as though I am supposed to bow to their superior wisdom - I don't think the ancients were particularly wise).

I have nothing against sports, Monopoly, or gardening, or any other way that people decide to while away the time.

My beef is with tax subsidies for professional sports. (I don't even have a problem with paying for school and youth sports through tax subsidies: those are HEALTH and EDUCATIONAL issues, not pure entertainment.)

And frankly, it is USEFUL that we have these huge tax subsidies and legal exceptions for sports, because it makes it easier for me to justify the tax subsidies for the things I want us to be subsidizing.

As long as we're putting money into the pockets of the owners of pro-sports, I will always be able to say: "address THAT before you talk to me about cutting food stamps", etc., and I'll feel fully morally justified...and my interlocutor has to splutter and shuck and jive, because there's really just no excuse.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-29   9:35:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

My beef is with tax subsidies for professional sports.

As was the writer's if you read it all. He liked school sports well enough.

And frankly, it is USEFUL that we have these huge tax subsidies and legal exceptions for sports, because it makes it easier for me to justify the tax subsidies for the things I want us to be subsidizing.

But isn't that how we get the bloated spending on food stamps combined with unholy farm subsidies? You know it is.

Currently, food stamps are a fig leaf, a bone tossed to the poor (many of whom aren't poor at all), to justify the corporate welfare included in all these farm bills.

We need to stop making excuses for subsidizing lots of industries and businesses who do not need or warrant government intervention in the market.

Pretending that that justifies spending on the poor or that they are somehow linked as legitimate government spending only compounds the problems.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-29   9:40:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tooconservative (#6)

But isn't that how we get the bloated spending on food stamps combined with unholy farm subsidies? You know it is.

So let's get peace in Korea and in Syria, and then pull out of Asia, Europe and the Middle East, dramatically cut the armed forces and station the rest on the Mexican border.

There's your balanced budget right there.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-29   9:52:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13 (#9)

So let's get peace in Korea and in Syria, and then pull out of Asia, Europe and the Middle East, dramatically cut the armed forces and station the rest on the Mexican border.

The Dems and neocon NeverTrumpers would go batshit crazy. LOL

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-29   10:01:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tooconservative (#11)

The Dems and neocon NeverTrumpers would go batshit crazy. LOL

The Dems would hate the troops on the border.

The Never Trumpers would hate Trump making world peace sufficient to do the pullback.

The Neocons would hate the pullback from Empire.

The Conservatives would hate the dramatic cuts in the military.

The Democrats AND Republicans in Congress would hate the loss of pork in their states.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-29   10:06:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Vicomte13 (#12)

It does sound like a grand old time to me.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-29   10:07:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Tooconservative (#13)

And the future would be bright. For a balanced budget means, in time, a declining debt (as it matures and is not replaced), which means less and less money on interest and principal repayment, which means - with constant taxes - a greater and greater surplus, which can pay down the debt faster and faster. Ultimate, with constant taxes, there is a much greater revenue flow because nothing is going to principal and interest.

And with a much reduced military, there is an even greater surplus.

You take that massive surplus and you pour it into a strong education, adult reeducation, prison rehabilitation and secondary education effort - invest heavily in human capital, and you will end up having less drug use, greater productivity, less crime - and therefore less need of police and prisons...freeing up still MORE money.

Get a strong universal health insurance system in place, and you will have completed the circle of needs: Health, education, moderate military, much smaller police footprint, and universal employment.

If we're going to pour money into agricultural subsidies (which we will), then pour it into subsidies for ORGANIC agriculture, which does three things at once: employs a lot more low-skilled people (organic farms are smaller operations and is more labor intensive), improves the general health of the people (reducing health care costs), and increases tax revenues.

Eventually, with everything fully funded at the right size, you can carefully cut taxes here and there to maintain revenues but leave the most practically possible in civilian hands.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-29   10:41:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Vicomte13 (#14) (Edited)

If we're going to pour money into agricultural subsidies (which we will), then pour it into subsidies for ORGANIC agriculture, which does three things at once: employs a lot more low-skilled people (organic farms are smaller operations and is more labor intensive), improves the general health of the people (reducing health care costs), and increases tax revenues.

You don't know much about agriculture. Most organic produce is a ruse currently. It's about as genuinely organic as all those diet sodas and low-fat snacks are the easy way to lose weight. Much of this is more about buzzwords and people feeling they're doing something than about actually doing something meaningful.

If you did want to subsidize, you would go for the new robotic weeders that spray weeds using about 1/200th the amount of expensive pesticides we currently use. The treehuggers would even support this.

And you would subsidize the indoor farming industry. People don't realize just how big that will become for fresh produce in the next few years. The technology really has matured.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-29   11:05:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tooconservative (#15)

You don't know much about agriculture. Most organic produce is a ruse currently.

I know a great deal more than people who think they know everything give me credit for.

I did not say to subsidize "organic" agriculture, I said to subsidize organic agriculture. I spoke of small farms and lots of labor.

There's nothing blind and good-heartedly ignorant about what I have suggested in an vector. I assume that people will try to cheat, and that therefore there will always have to be strict oversight.

I assume that when oxen are gored, entrenched interests will try to use their political power to change that.

Consider what the very major cuts to the military and global pullback I advocate really entails, the number of gored oxen out there and broken ricebowls, and who is going to be angry.

Go through systematically who gets angry when you cut traditional ag subsidies, and you don't let organic ag subsidies go to the counterfeits, when you cut defense contracts, when you cut pro-sports subsidies, when you let copyright expire on Disney.

You enrage the billionaires, almost all of them, and they come after you with a will.

Therefore, to win, you have to give such massive subsidies directly to the people - instead - in the form of schools and medicine and pensions - that you overwhelm the united opposition billionaires with the sheer numbers of the middle and working class.

You cannot fix America from what ails it without redistributing substantial wealth and power from the top 10%, and they will always fight you. So you have to go BIG, to make stakeholders out of the huge swath of the middle and bottom, to overwhelm the resistance of the aristocrats by the voting muscle of the mob.

But you have to be out to make things better, not just unleash the mob, because the mob won't stop at chastening the rich and redistributing some of their wealth. The mob will go all the way to eating the rich and taking everything, and that fails everywhere it is tried.

You have to aim at making things better for the vast majority of people, while still leaving something to aspire to. You do that by vastly strengthening the social services needed by the bottom 80% of society to live decent lives and have a shot at doing really well: schools and medicine, and old-age pensions. You give people security and opportunity.

To make that kind of investment, you have to cut something. And the something you cut is the military.

EVENTUALLY you want to trim taxes, but only when you've retired the debt.

Truth is, the political compromise we've reached is to have ok schools, public backing of college loans, ok pensions, a patchwork of basically workable health care, a huge military, and moderate taxes...which means a massive deficit and accumulating debt.

We do everything we really need to do at a mediocre level, the military at a titanic level, avoid substantial wealth redistribution, and simply put it all on credit.

Eventually the credit will expand to the point we can't get it anymore, and we'll have a choice to make.

The choice we will make is the same one we've made in the past: a debt jubilee that wipes out the lenders. We do it by inflating the currency, which is a much softer way of doing it than defaulting on debt.

Unfortunately, the conservatives want to protect the rich too much to actually save the country from the inevitable inflation jubilee, and the democrat/socialists want to make themselves kommissars too much to do anything right.

So therefore we keep everybody alive with massive public spending, employed with massive military and police overspending, and the rich happy with subsidies of what they control, and we pay for it all by currency inflation.

Given our system, there doesn't seem to be any will to do it any other way, and people do not seem to be rational, reasonable, persuadable or even Christian. So that's what we'll just keep doing.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-29   11:47:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#17. To: Vicomte13 (#16)

You generalized your case to the entire economy.

I was talking about agriculture, how to make it more sustainable, more productive, reduce petroleum-intensive and wasteful pesticide use. And increase locally-produced fresh produce indoors on an industrial scale.

So I wuz right.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-29 11:53:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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