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Sports Title: Bills Blocking Taxpayer Funding Of Sports Arenas Could Gain Steam Amid Anthem Protests A companion measure to the legislation was already proposed in the House back in March by Oklahoma Republican Rep. Steve Russell. Last June, New Jersey Democratic Sen. Cory Booker and Republican Oklahoma Sen. James Lankford put forth a bill that would ban professional sports teams from using municipal bonds in relation to federal funding to build their sports arenas. “Professional sports teams generate billions of dollars in revenue,” Booker said in a statement. “There’s no reason why we should give these multimillion-dollar businesses a federal tax break to build new stadiums. It’s not fair to finance these expensive projects on the backs of taxpayers, especially when wealthy teams end up reaping most of the benefits.” The Oklahoma Republican senator agreed, saying, “The federal government is responsible for a lot of important functions, but financing sports stadiums for multi-million – sometimes billion – dollar franchises is definitely not one of them.” A spokesman from Lankford’s office told The Daily Caller Sunday that in the last four weeks interest in the bill has picked up since both members proposed it four months ago. Should taxpayers have to pick up the tab for stadiums for wealthy professional athletes and team owners who thumb their noses when the national anthem is played in those very stadiums? Players on the Baltimore Ravens and Jacksonville Jaguars, all who can potentially benefit from taxpayer dollars at the local, state and federal levels, followed the lead of former San Francisco 49er quarterback Colin Kaepernick Sunday. They kneeled during the national anthem at a game against each other in London. Other teams stayed in their locker rooms for the anthem. The incident happened one day after President Donald Trump criticized professional football players who kneel during the anthem, which set off a war of words on Twitter between the president and professional sports figures. Kaepernick claimed his protest of the national anthem last season stemmed from treatment of blacks by law enforcement, but by the end of the season Kaepernick’s demonstrations, joined at that point by other players, led the reason to the league’s TV ratings plunge, ESPN reported. Not only have viewers bid farewell to the NFL but attendees at teams’ taxpayer-funded stadiums appear to be refusing to fill seats. Last Thursday, the San Francisco 49ers and the L.A. Rams played before a poorly attended crowd. According to Booker and Lankford, for the past 17 years, 36 professional athletic stadiums have been built or renovated by federal tax-exempted municipal bonds. This cost taxpayers $3.2 billion dollars, the Brookings Institute reported last year. Despite claims from local officials and team owners that the construction of these stadiums would create jobs and economic growth, research from the Journal of Economic Perspectives showed “there is no statistically significant positive correlation between sports facility construction and economic development,” specifically aimed at income growth or job creation. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Also at DailyCaller today:
#2. To: Tooconservative (#0) Good. Cut off tax subsidies.
#3. To: Tooconservative (#0) Despite claims from local officials and team owners that the construction of these stadiums would create jobs and economic growth, research from the Journal of Economic Perspectives showed “there is no statistically significant positive correlation between sports facility construction and economic development,” specifically aimed at income growth or job creation. If this is true, cut off the funding even if the players stand for the anthem.
#4. To: Vicomte13 (#2) Good. Cut off tax subsidies. The second they move to actually do it, the GOP will be cowed by libmedia screaming they are trying to destroy America's sport, blah-blah-blah. And Corey Booker typically ensures that nothing he sponsors ever becomes law or has any impact whatsoever. How stupid can those NJ voters be to elect him more than once to anything? Booker is all virtue-signals but determined to leave no actual paper trail of legislative success. He avoids any opportunity to pass his own bills and somehow thinks this will qualify him to be prez.
#5. To: Tooconservative (#4) How stupid can those NJ voters be to elect him more than once to anything? What is the alternative? A Republican?
#6. To: misterwhite (#3) If this is true, cut off the funding even if the players stand for the anthem. It is certainly true and it has been known for some time. In exactly the same way that the Olympics always hurt the local economy of the city and the country that hosts them. Not that that ever stops them. Just more pols piling up debt to aggrandize themselves and screw the little people who have to ultimately pay those huge bills and accrued interest over the long haul. If we can't stop this kind of wasteful spending, can we stop anything? It is discouraging to think about.
#7. To: Vicomte13 (#5) What is the alternative? A Republican? Like Christie? He could probably eat and digest entire elementary schools of children. Or Frank Lautenburg? Or Robert Menendez? I just hate NJ. If Kim Woh Fat launched a nuke at us, I'd probably hope that it hits NJ. It is an incredibly sucky state, full of douchebags.
#8. To: Tooconservative (#7) It is an incredibly sucky state, full of douchebags. Snookie for Governor!
#9. To: Tooconservative (#6) If we can't stop this kind of wasteful spending, can we stop anything? We could stop all of it and make things right. Whether we actually WILL or not is an open question.
#10. To: Vicomte13 (#9) You aren't cheering me up.
#11. To: Tooconservative (#10) You aren't cheering me up. After having gotten a good spanking by Jesus and adopting a resolution to be nice and not do things like call Republican politicians "shitstains" anymore, I am more hopeful than I have been for awhile. I do see the social welfare aspects of health care moving where I want it to go, and once that gets put to bed I really see a lot of good development in things. People are fed up about the national anthem, and that's starting to spill over in lost billions to TV stations and sports teams. And because the other side is resisting, the issue now is lateralizing into the question of tax breaks for stadia. This is the sort of thing that can just grow and grow, like yeast, and do so much incredible damage to the people who stand on the other side, without really doing any harm at all to those who just turn off that form of entertainment and move on to something else. Their model doesn't have to die, but if THEY choose to sacrifice their wealth and profession to make an obnoxious political statement, I am more than happy to see it all fall apart and shut down. It's symbolic of something new. If we can get past instituting public health care there is a lot we can do, socially, just as we for the most part have accepted Social Security as necessary. Things are going in the right direction. There is hope. Football is symbolic of a new time ahead. Winter is coming, and it will be glorious.
#12. To: Vicomte13 (#11) Well, we'll see if Trump can actually #MakeFootballGreatAgain. I have doubts.
#13. To: Tooconservative (#12) Well, we'll see if Trump can actually #MakeFootballGreatAgain. I have doubts. He can't. But we can. Or rather, we can walk away and the swells who run football can fix stuff in order to save their businesses. Or they can cut off their noses to spite their faces. Either way, I win.
#14. To: Vicomte13 (#13) Trump has a lot of power he can apply in many ways. He could withdraw Homeland Security support for NFL games, since they're such a big private enterprise. He could withdraw all military displays and costly flyovers. He could tell Sessions to find a few compromised individuals working in or around each of the NFL teams to make statements and testimony that steroids and amphetamine use is rampant on those teams and send in the DEA with warrants to bust them and drug test them all, investigate their doctors, investigate their owners, et cetera. IOW, use the FBI to bust illegal drug use in the NFL the same way they busted the KKK and the Nazis decades back. Then there are all the phony charities and foundations that the playas use to fund their entourages as tax dodges. Those might be worth the time of the IRS to investigate. Trump could do a lot of things to truly rip up the NFL.
#15. To: Tooconservative (#14) Trump could do a lot of things to truly rip up the NFL. I'd prefer he shut down the Russia investigation and turn the FBI into doing all that to the Clintons and their cronies. Because that whole corrupt Democrat skein of power has REAL influence. A bunch of meatheads throwing around a ball in front of stadia and living rooms filled with meatheads is essentially harmless.
#16. To: Vicomte13 (#15) I'm not saying Trump should do those things but he has incredible power if he chose to use it. And Roger Stone's reptilian brain to cook up such dirty tricks for him.
#17. To: Tooconservative (#16) I'm not saying Trump should do those things but he has incredible power if he chose to use it. And Roger Stone's reptilian brain to cook up such dirty tricks for him. Yes, the President DOES have incredible power. Including the power to impose a litmus test on Supreme Court nominees. Democrats do. That's why I hold the Republicans fully responsible for the continued existence of Roe v. Wade. I know that the Republican majority Supreme Court of Nixon's day was from a pre-conservative day and time. But since that time, since Reagan and the "Moral Majority" election, Republicans have appointed NINE justices - NINE! The whole court. That Roe is still the law of the land means that Republican Presidents, with all that massive power, CHOSE to leave it be, by not nominating the judges who would kill it, by not applying a litmus test. That the Clintons are uninvestigated is because the President doesn't want to. That he continues to let himself be investigated and the country distracted is, likewise, his choice.
#18. To: Tooconservative (#0) They should. The NFL CEO gets more than the CEO of Exxon! I think the NFL CEO gets more than many top producing CEO's combined! There just something wrong here. Exxon is worth 3 times what the NFL is worth and works all over the world. Amazon, Apple and EXXON are worth 20 times more than the NFL but the CEO's of those three combined make near half of what the NFL CEO makes. I guess I missed the part where NFL finally decided under pressure to stop its nonprofit status in 2015. NFL CEO was upset that people knew how much he made!
#19. To: Justified (#18) I think the NFL CEO gets more than many top producing CEO's combined! There just something wrong here. Exxon is worth 3 times what the NFL is worth and works all over the world. Amazon, Apple and EXXON are worth 20 times more than the NFL but the CEO's of those three combined make near half of what the NFL CEO makes. Well, they can also get stock options and incentives. You have to look at total compensation packages.
I guess I missed the part where NFL finally decided under pressure to stop its nonprofit status in 2015. NFL CEO was upset that people knew how much he made! Well, the NFL was under pressure from its own executives like Goodell who wanted to cash in big time. Goodell wanted to make a lot more and it was easier to squeeze a lot more out of the owners if they could keep it secret how much they were paying that turd. I expect that Goodell is making at least $60 million a year, probably more. Other top NFL executives would be in that range as well.
#20. To: Tooconservative (#19) Well, they can also get stock options and incentives. You have to look at total compensation packages. I looked up 2 of them and it was total compensation. Crazy money! LOL
#21. To: Tooconservative (#1) Go for it! Tired of financing anything for the millionaires who roll about in either mud or astroturf. Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs. #22. To: IbJensen (#21) But those city councils and mayors are scared to death to say no when the team threatens to leave and run off to a city that has offered to build a stadium. I think there should be laws to prevent any team from leaving a city that has built it a stadium with public funds. I wouldn't allow the citizens to be bilked and would require the teams to do maintenance and upgrades. And no leaving town. If a stadium is built with taxpayer dollars, it stays in that town forever or goes out of business in that town. And no blackmail attempts of any kind to grab more tax dollars.
#23. To: Tooconservative (#0) Did you know the NFL was a non-profit 501(c)(6) until 2015?
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/30/news/companies/nfl-taxpayers/index.html
NFL gets billions in subsidies from U.S. taxpayers That last part about the NFL not-for-profit status got so embarrassing that the NFL gave it up on their own initiative. The above article is from January 2015 when the NFL was still incorporated as a 501(c)(6) nor for profit corporation. In April 2015 the NFL announced that it was give up its non-profit status. https://nonprofitquarterly.org/2015/04/29/why-did-the-nfl-give-up-its-tax-exempt-status/
Why Did the NFL Give Up Its Tax-Exempt Status?
#24. To: Tooconservative (#4) The second they move to actually do it, the GOP will be cowed by libmedia screaming they are trying to destroy America's sport, blah-blah-blah. Right about now, they could win awards by making the NFL owners appear humbled.
#25. To: nolu chan (#23) One benefit for Goodell and the NFL is that without having tax-exempt status, they won’t face the pressure of full disclosure for their big-ticket salaries, including Goodell’s enormous salary, which was over $40 million in 2012. Of course, we only know that because the NFL was tax exempt, even though the NFL tried to get itself exempted from the disclosure requirement long ago. Yeah, I knew. The rest of the article drew out some of the tax angles that I had only suspected but it was always clear that their motives were financial secrecy and increased salary/benefit packages. They wanted to dip their beaks a lot deeper.
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