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Sports Title: Jaguars, Ravens players kneel [overseas] during anthem amid Trump's criticism Multiple Baltimore Ravens and Jacksonville Jaguars players knelt on Sunday during the playing of the national anthem at the first NFL game since President Trump called for players who take a knee to be fired. Video and photos posted to Twitter shows players kneeling and locking arms as the anthem played. Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan joined his players on the field and linked arms with them before the game began. Trump has faced backlash in recent days from after calling on NFL owners to fire players who kneel during the national anthem. "Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, 'Get that son of a b---- off the field right now,'" Trump said at a rally in Alabama on Friday. "'He is fired.'" Trump’s comments brought rebukes against Trump from multiple NFL players, the head of the NFL players’ union and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, who called Trump’s comments “divisive” and said they showed a “lack of respect for the NFL.” Several NFL executives have also spoken out against Trump and reaffirmed their players’ rights to peacefully protest. But Trump on Sunday doubled down on his comments, calling for players to be fired or suspended for not standing during the national anthem and hitting the NFL for not telling players to stand. — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 24, 2017 — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 24, 2017 Poster Comment: I did my best to get those Twitter pics to show here. Notice that "Shad Khan" (what a cute nickname), the Jaguars owner is a Paki immigrant and Sunni Muslim who joined his team in publicly disrespecting our country. Notice that they traveled overseas to disrespect our flag and anthem. But both teams stood for the British anthem! Another NFL story about kneeling: MRC: NFL Analysts: Tim Tebow Hated Because of His Faith (3 images) Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-65) not displayed.
If the players can disrespect the flag, the national anthem, or the country on the field, in uniform, while they represent the team and the league, it is because they are being permitted to do so by the NFL That is entirely the issue, and why so many people are starting to shun the NFL.
#67. To: All, redleghunter, nolu chan, A K A Stone, buckeroo (#58) DailyCaller: Sales Of Villanueva’s Football Jersey Skyrocket
I think we all could have predicted this one.
#68. To: nolu chan (#36) What it is not, is a matter of constitutionally protected free speech. The First Amendment protects against governmental interference with free speech. Well, it is constitutionally protected from criminal action which means Trump has zero legal authority to do anything about it. My meaning with "private" was that the government has no say or grounds for complaint in the matter, and that it was solely in the purview of the NFL to deal with however they see fit. True, as stadiums qualify as public venues and the events are widely broadcast it is not private it that sense. As it is not a federal matter, Trump should declare it as such, and his condemnation of the protest should be billed as his personal opinion, though underscoring that is not Trump's way. From another angle, Trump's condemnation of the protests have actually served to reward the protesters with the very attention they want. That may have actually fanned the flames, so to speak, and encouraged other athletes to protest as well. Pro athletes may well have modest loyalty to country, but likely a stronger loyalty to their teammates, and compatriots in other pro sports.
#69. To: Tooconservative (#67) Additionally, Villanueva’s jersey sales rocketed into the top sellers in the entire league as of 7:45 PM EST behind only Marshawn Lynch, Derek Carr, Carson Wentz, Brown, and Aaron Rodgers, 247 Sports reported. Retired Sergeant Major across the street good buddy and neighbor is a huge Steelers fan. He's mighty pissed. I'm sure when he gets back from Idaho bear hunting (he did get a medium sized black bear last week) he will be sporting Villanueva's jersey in his garage workshop.
#70. To: Tooconservative, tomder55, Liberator, Nolu Chan (#67) My cousin reminded me of this article from last year:
Unrepentant hypocrite Colin Kaepernick defends Fidel Castro
#71. To: redleghunter (#69) Retired Sergeant Major across the street good buddy and neighbor is a huge Steelers fan. He's mighty pissed. I'm sure when he gets back from Idaho bear hunting (he did get a medium sized black bear last week) he will be sporting Villanueva's jersey in his garage workshop. Hitting them in the wallet is the only way to make the SJW NFL and SJW ESPN change. This is another strategy of the Left overall. Just as they want to no-platform any conservatives who disagree with them, they want to convert the supposed untouchable cultural elements like the NFL with no-escapism. They want you to have no opportunity to escape their message in any venue and they will not tolerate anyone trying to use "their platform" unless it is in conformity with their policy agenda. In this sense, I expect they will try to silence or expel Villaneuva. Or he will be targeted for a career-ending injury by other teams.
#72. To: Tooconservative (#71) In this sense, I expect they will try to silence or expel Villaneuva. I'm sure he will be labeled "white latino" sometime this week.
#73. To: redleghunter (#70) Unrepentant hypocrite Colin Kaepernick defends Fidel Castro You might remind him of Kaep getting away with wearing pig socks with his uniform, entirely contrary to NFL and team policy. Goodell did nothing. But try to honor fallen cops or wear a Christian T-shirt while sitting on the sidelines injured? All hell will break loose and Goodell will swing into action.
#74. To: redleghunter (#72) I'm sure he will be labeled "white latino" sometime this week. Perhaps you know already but he is not a Latino of any flavor. His father was a Spanish naval officer who had an assignment with NATO that brought him to the States and he was born here and had birthright citizenship as a result. His mother was also Spanish with both parents over 6' tall. That's tall for Spaniards. So Villaneuva is a Spaniard, not a Hispanic. Therefore he's just another oppressive white man.
#75. To: nolu chan, redleghunter, tooconsevative, GrandIsland, Stoner (#24) $44 million per year Globalist-Propagandist NFL Commish Roger Goodell: "The NFL and our players are at our best when we create a sense of unity in our country and our culture."
Oh, the irony. "Our culture"? "OUR Unity"?? WHOSE "sense of culture and unity" is that? The hypocritical, ungrateful, self-entitled. narcissistic "BLAME/HATE WHITEY!!" culture that is attempting to unite division, anarchy and hatred? The one that self-loathing white liberal-Left embraces? Uh, yeah. Is this 0bama's "Culture" of "Hope & Change" of destroying America's institutions and our sovereignty from within? ANSWER: YES TO ALL. More PsyOps, guys. Nothing but PsyOps. DIVIDE & CONQUER. Once the NFL exploited Pink Month as part of their "OPERATION: Feminize-Males" SJW agenda, some of us knew the Globalist' Game Plan was in full swing. From the very beginning when Kaep suddenly decided to disrespect the National Anthem -- *without* being disciplined, it was GAME ON. The NFL *also* is run by its own sub-"Shadow Governance" -- a division of Global Shadow Gubmint Inc. They knowingly used Kaep to catapult the propaganda and their agenda. Given the league is 70% black, the future math, and coercion and peer pressure wasn't going to be hard to figure out. All part of the ongoing demonizing of Trump, Whitey, and actual American UNITY and SOVEREIGNTY. All designed to help create CW2, chaos + anarchy = Martial Law.
#76. To: Tooconservative, redleghunter (#74) Perhaps you know already but he is not a Latino of any flavor. Interesting background on Villaneuva -- who is proven to a true and courageous patriot. Should the Steelers (the author of the "Rooney Rule" that coerced NFL teams into AA employment policies that did NOT apply ironically to players) cut Villaneuva, the blow-back would be a tsunami. Already this stunt yesterday will prove to be crippling to the NFL. That said, I concur with Red's prediction that the MSM will spin it so Villaneuva will be labeled "white latino" sometime this week.
#77. To: redleghunter (#70) My cousin reminded me of this article from last year: And the NFL/ESPN yawned. OR praised him.
#78. To: Liberator, redleghunter, nolu chan (#76) More reporting on that Hispaniard guy from Fox News.
If the coach tries to hold the line on staying in the locker room, he can't be certain that others might not join the Spaniard since the vote was only by a narrow majority. Notice that the news coverage focusing on the rookie Steeler, J. J. Watt, who raised $30 million for hurricane relief has now entirely disappeared. He was one of those staying in the locker room.
#79. To: Liberator (#75) The NFL *also* is run by its own sub-"Shadow Governance" -- a division of Global Shadow Gubmint Inc. They knowingly used Kaep to catapult the propaganda and their agenda. Wonder what would be going on at the stadium if my old Irish head bashing Knights of Columbus uncles were still around. Would not put it passed them to get on the field and 'assist' players to the standing position.
#80. To: Tooconservative (#78) J. J. Watt, who raised $30 million for hurricane relief JJ is on the Houston Texans. AFAIK all the Texans stood for the anthem. They played the Patriots this week.
#81. To: All, Liberator, redleghunter, nolu chan (#78) Turns out that the Steelers were not in the locker room as their coach reported. Most (or all) of them ended up hiding in the tunnel about 30' behind the Spaniard. This will make it much harder for his coach to do anything to him (this time) since the rest of the team didn't stay in the lockerroom either.
#82. To: TooConservative, Liberator (#81) This will make it much harder for his coach to do anything to him (this time) since the rest of the team didn't stay in the lockerroom either. The Steeler organization is playing with fire. Steeler fans are rust belt working class whites who swill Miller High Life. That means they are Trump supporters and the type who put him over the hedge in PA. They know they cannot play this game for long.
#83. To: All (#78) Notice that the news coverage focusing on the rookie Steeler, J. J. Watt, who raised $30 million for hurricane relief has now entirely disappeared. He was one of those staying in the locker room. You're right, my bad. I could have swore I read that somewhere though. It is surprising just how bad some of the reporting is, like the lies peddled by ABC about the Steelers now that we are finally learning the truth about the tunnel thing and all the rest. Apparently, they just report things that they make up and decide later whether to issue any corrections or not. Another camera angle on the Spaniard, you can barely see a few team members back in the shadows in the tunnel. Seems to provide more proof that they were in the tunnel and not in the locker room.
#84. To: Tooconservative (#83) Apparently, they just report things that they make up and decide later whether to issue any corrections or not. Alas the spirit of fake news and the letter of the false narrative. The MSM has been complicit in such for quite a few decades. It took the Orange man to expose them for who they are and we should at least thank him for such. But he had to get in the same fecal strewn mud pit in order to expose them. Of course the fine deplorables here on LF have exposed the fecal false narratives for some time. Just wanted to get that in of course to give credit where due. :)
#85. To: redleghunter (#84) What is surprising is the sheer sloppiness and shockingly biased reporting of these supposed professional journalists.
#86. To: Tooconservative (#65) My first guess: they were all shot by our national anthem. I thought they were all shot by cops in an act of oppression.
#87. To: Tooconservative (#85) What is surprising is the sheer sloppiness and shockingly biased reporting of these supposed professional journalists. Don't think it is sloppy reporting. It's either intentional or embedded in their education. Noticed even last year in 6th grade English class my son brought home books where he had to write a narrative on what he thought was the important message of the author. Don't know about you, but we used to study what the author was actually communicating instead of creating our own 'narrative.' It is the embedded moral relativism of our public education which is destroying some rather good talent out there. They are told to 'find' a narrative which 'speaks for them or others.' Meaning don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. I think that is what happened. Even the sports journalists have a preconception of what 'should be' and designs a narrative accordingly. A fake narrative. Needless to say we are homeschooling my youngest this year. Wife and I are no longer impressed with teachers teaching from a workbook. Any idiot can do that so why not me. :) Plus, he does not get bombarded with garbage which I have to deprogram at night. We use that extra time now to study theology and Bible reading. Win win situation. :)
#88. To: Pinguinite (#68)
Well, it is constitutionally protected from criminal action which means Trump has zero legal authority to do anything about it. What on earth does it have to do with Federal criminal law???? There is no CRIMINAL violation here by any party.
My meaning with "private" was that the government has no say or grounds for complaint in the matter, and that it was solely in the purview of the NFL to deal with however they see fit. The President has every right to stand up and speak up. http://law.justia.com/codes/us/2015/title-4/chapter-1/sec.-9/
4 U.S.C. § 9 (2015) The government does have a say when, on national television, a corporate entity is permitting or encouraging the planned, deliberate, organized violation of a Federal statute, to the offense of the people, and in disrespect of the flag and the country. When, with league approval, the players and coaches disrespect the flag and the country, it is offensive.
True, as stadiums qualify as public venues and the events are widely broadcast it is not private it that sense. Screw stadiums. It is on FCC regulated BROADCAST television.
As it is not a federal matter, Trump should declare it as such, and his condemnation of the protest should be billed as his personal opinion, though underscoring that is not Trump's way. It is a Federal matter. 4 U.S.C. § 9. It is the nation, the national flag, and the national anthem that is being disrespected.
From another angle, Trump's condemnation of the protests have actually served to reward the protesters with the very attention they want. That may have actually fanned the flames, so to speak, and encouraged other athletes to protest as well. Opinions do vary. Trump has definitely shined the brightest light possible upon the kneeling cockroaches. He has presented the people with a simple choice between Team BLM, supported by Team Goodell and the NFL football monopoly, and Team USA. This cost of the NFL caving to Team BLM will have the same devasting cost as it did to the University of Missouri. Attendance goes down, tv ratings go down, and revenue goes down. When it goes down enough, the owners will no longer support the players costing them a fortune. As for owners joining with Team BLM yesterday, these are the same owners who will not hire Colin Kaepernick. They are in their current predicament because the NFL failed to act last year when Kaepernick insulted the nation every week. Pro athletes may well have modest loyalty to country, but likely a stronger loyalty to their teammates, and compatriots in other pro sports. It is not all pro athletes. There are thugs and jackasses in the NFL, just as there are outside the NFL, who support BLM bullshit agitation. The NFL can do something about their thug BLM infection, or they can pay the same price as the University of Missouri. http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/25/university-missouri-enrollment-hits-new-low/
University of Missouri enrollment hits new low
#89. To: redleghunter (#70) Unrepentant hypocrite Colin Kaepernick defends Fidel Castro I've mentioned previously that this was what disqualified Kaepernick from consideration by the Dolphins. He would just be unacceptable to the anti-Castro Cubans in Florida.
#90. To: Tooconservative, redleghunter (#74) So Villaneuva is a Spaniard, not a Hispanic. Spanish are hispanic.
#91. To: nolu chan (#36) http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/09/25/gregg-jarrett-trump-is-correct-nfl- teams-can-legally-fire-players-for-their-conduct.html Every professional player must sign the standard NFL player contract. In it, the player promises as follows: “To conduct himself on and off the field with appropriate recognition of the fact that the success of professional football depends largely on public respect for and approval of those associated with the game” (Paragraph 2). “ If player has engaged in personal conduct reasonably judged by the Club to adversely affect or reflect on the Club, then the Club may terminate this contract” (Paragraph 11). This language makes it clear that a team will decide whether a player’s personal conduct adversely affects the club. Since it is a subjective standard, NFL owners have enormous latitude and discretion to fire a player for reasons of conduct. But that is not all. The collective bargaining agreement negotiated by the players’ union and approved by the players themselves authorizes suspension or termination “for conduct detrimental to the integrity of, or public confidence in, the game of professional football” (Article 46). The players agreed in writing to conduct themselves with respect and refrain from conduct which is detrimental to the game. There is nothing in either of these contracts which gives players a right to a political or social protest while in uniform at the commencement of a game. Indeed, the league strictly enforces the wearing of patches and other symbols on player uniforms which are intended to promote causes.
#92. To: Tooconservative, redleghunter, nolu chan (#78) If the coach tries to hold the line on staying in the locker room, he can't be certain that others might not join the Spaniard since the vote was only by a narrow majority. Absurd presumptive coercion aside by a hypocritical white-hating black Coach Tomlin (who was handed his job SOLELY because of his race, AND is married to a WHITE WOMAN)...why refer to Alejandro Villanueva as a "Spaniard"? It smacks of unnecessary condescension and elitism. This man among cowardly boys is more "American" by deed and act than the vast majority of "Americans" -- who are AMERICAN IN NAME ONLY. In any case, we are again witnessing the usual BS spin from a despicably divisive Mainstream Media and NFL. Notice how they now refer to Villanueva's rejection of *their* consensus? "CONTROVERSIAL." Because THEY also regard America, White people, NFL fans, and President Trump with utter disrespect, contempt, and hatred, this Globalist reptilian trash are writing that Al Villanueva is "controversial." Note this trend: Both the media and NFL are on record as labeling those who honor either America OR God "controversial." Openly patriotic and heroic American (Al Villanueva) who stood alone during the playing of the National Anthem is "controversial; In Tim Tebow's case, it was his open faith in God, honoring Him with prayer that made HIM "controversial."
#93. To: redleghunter (#87) Needless to say we are homeschooling my youngest this year. Wife and I are no longer impressed with teachers teaching from a workbook. Any idiot can do that so why not me. :) Plus, he does not get bombarded with garbage which I have to deprogram at night. We use that extra time now to study theology and Bible reading. Win win situation. :) It sounds nice, you get to spend more time with your son too. That extra individual attention can really pay off. I did not share a teacher with other children in my own class until I was in sixth grade (except having a classmate for a while in second grade). It was a country school and never had more than 10 kids. So I got about 45 minutes a day alone with the teacher. I spent time in my workbooks, outlined entire textbooks to improve my reading comprehension, etc. Did me a lot of good really. I entered 6th grade reading at a 10th grade level and a consequently overestimated IQ.
#94. To: nolu chan (#90) Spanish are hispanic. Meh. The people of Spain are Spanish or Spaniards. Hispanic more often indicates Latin or South American colonies of Spain, at least in the modern era.
#95. To: Liberator (#92) ...why refer to Alejandro Villanueva as a "Spaniard"? I don't recall anyone else calling him a Spaniard. I did. Mostly because someone else called him a Hispanic. He is a white man from Spain who had birthright citizenship here that he took advantage of. He was not from the old Spanish colonies in Central or South America or from Cuba or Puerto Rico, etc. He's insanely tall for a Spaniard. Among the Dutch, his height and size wouldn't be unusual but the Spanish just aren't that big usually.
#96. To: misterwhite (#91) Note the following, as well:
2017 Official Playing Rules of the National Footbal League, Rule 5, Section 4, Article 8:
ARTICLE 8. PERSONAL MESSAGES. Throughout the period on game-day that a player is visible to the stadium and television audience (including in pregame warm-ups, in the bench area, and during postgame interviews in the locker room or on the field), players are prohibited from wearing, displaying, or otherwise conveying personal messages either in writing or illustration, unless such message has been approved in advance by the League office. Items to celebrate anniversaries or memorable events, or to honor or commemorate individuals, such as helmet decals, and arm bands and jersey patches on players’ uniforms, are prohibited unless approved in advance by the League office. All such items approved by the League office, if any, must relate to team or League events or personages. The League will not grant permission for any club or player to wear, display, or otherwise convey messages, through helmet decals, arm bands, jersey patches, or other items affixed to game uniforms or equipment, which relate to political activities or causes, other non-football events, causes or campaigns, or charitable causes or campaigns. Further, any such approved items must be modest in size, tasteful, non-commercial, and noncontroversial; must not be worn for more than one football season; and if approved for use by a specific team, must not be worn by players on other teams in the League.
#97. To: nolu chan, Pinguinite, tooconservative, redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#88) The President has every right to stand up and speak up.... Interesting observations... It seems THE self-annointed arbiters of "Free Speech" (or notion that Abortion is considered "Choice" instead of Baby-Murder) are now the Globalist MSM, leftist Academe, and Anarchists. Truth is now relative to whether one is conservative OR liberal-Left. Libertarians remains as confused and supporting ANYTHING -- "just as long as no one dies. (Directly.) The argument that Trump should keep his mouth shut is akin to keeping quiet as your friendly neighborhood vandals and arsonists do their thang. This issue is NOT about 1A issues (as has the MSM-Propaganda etal tried to spin. They were conspicuously mute as 0bama was far more incendiary and divisive.) The GOOD news as you note is Trump exposing the infestation and TRUE under-belly of contempt and investment by the various elitist entities for an America-divided and mired in permanent anarchy. From where I stand, watch and listen, the NFL (like most American institutions that are slowly being co-oped), is fully prepared to take the financial bullet here. As I've recently suggested, in exchange for their nod and a wink, the NWO Globalist Cabal of Monied Occultists are underwriting any revenue losses by the owners. NONE of what's happened has taken any owners by surprise. ALL of it has their blessing. Colleges and Universities (like Missou) initially took financial bullets, but behind the scene money is presumably aggressively exchanging hands, taking much of the assumed financial sting out of the equation. It is very possible that (like DC politicians), NFL OWNERS THEMSELVES have also been made "offers" they "can't refuse." It makes NO sense that they would support this nonsense that will obviously alienate their fan base. UNLESS they've been reassured that THEY WILL BE COMPENSATED.
As I've also suggested recently, the #1 Enemy of Globalist-Elites is American sovereignty and independence. The #1 foe standing in the way of a One World Government (as framed by the propaganda arm of the Globalist Occultists Inc) are White people. Christian White people. Especially, ARMED STRAIGHT CHRISTIAN WHITE PEOPLE. And Patriots of ALL stripes. This is why it is crucial that Christians especially be divided and isolated by tribe, race, age, politics, gender, and every demo possible.
#98. To: Tooconservative, Liberator (#95) He's insanely tall for a Spaniard. Pau and Marc Gasol are two fairly tall Spaniards. Their "little" brother, Adria Gasol is 6'9". They are all from Barcelona. For Alejandro Villanueva, I could only find an unsourced claim that both parents were from Andalucia, or more specifically Cádiz. That's the opposite end of Spain. The tall gene is running around there somewhere, but I never saw any 6'9" Spaniards in Andalucia. Then again, I don't recall seeing any in the U.S., except on television.
#99. To: Tooconservative (#95) I don't recall anyone else calling him a Spaniard. I did. Mostly because someone else called him a Hispanic. Aah. Gotcha. He is a white man from Spain who had birthright citizenship here that he took advantage of. He was not from the old Spanish colonies in Central or South America or from Cuba or Puerto Rico, etc. A "good import" in this case. He's insanely tall for a Spaniard. Among the Dutch, his height and size wouldn't be unusual but the Spanish just aren't that big usually. Villenueva is very tall for a Spaniard. Or most any Mediteranean land. I wonder how HE refers to HIMSELF? "Spanish-American"? "Hispanic-American"? "Latino"? The Establishment has trained us to require labels so we can divide ourselves into anything BUT "American" without a hyphen.
#100. To: redleghunter, Tooconservative (#84) The MSM has been complicit in such for quite a few decades. It took the Orange man to expose them for who they are and we should at least thank him for such. HAH! Well done! :-)
#101. To: Liberator (#99) It consists primarily of a record of innocent people "Allo. My name is Inigo Montoya. You have my football. Prepare to die!"
#102. To: Liberator (#99) Villenueva is very tall for a Spaniard. Or most any Mediteranean land. I wonder how HE refers to HIMSELF? "Spanish-American"? "Hispanic-American"? "Latino"? The Establishment has trained us to require labels so we can divide ourselves into anything BUT "American" without a hyphen. I would guess just "American". I called him a Spaniard because I think that is most accurate according to my Mac's version of the Oxford dictionary.
In America, Hispanic/Chicano/Latino almost always refers to people from the old Spanish colonies in the Americas and never refers to a native or inhabitant or immigrant from Spain. In old books, you may see Spaniards referred to as Hispanics but that is outdated IMO. Ever met a white Mexican? These are old families from Spain that have lived for centuries in Mexico. Try calling them Hispanic or Chicano if you want an explosion. Hint: they don't like it. They identify as Mexican citizens but definitely consider themselves to be Spanish or Spaniards.
#103. To: Liberator (#97) It is very possible that (like DC politicians), NFL OWNERS THEMSELVES have also been made "offers" they "can't refuse." It makes NO sense that they would support this nonsense that will obviously alienate their fan base. UNLESS they've been reassured that THEY WILL BE COMPENSATED. I don't think anyone will pay them off to take a hit. They are afraid of their next player strike when the contracts are renegotiated or afraid of the playas demanding the right to wear stylish new "Death To Whitey" emblems or some such. The owners think if they just pander now, it'll pay off later in avoiding a strike or demands that they let the NFL become the playas SJW propaganda platform. They're wrong of course.
#104. To: redleghunter, Tooconservative (#87) ("What is surprising is the sheer sloppiness and shockingly biased reporting of these supposed professional journalists.") Exactly. Noticed even last year in 6th grade English class my son brought home books where he had to write a narrative on what he thought was the important message of the author. Don't know about you, but we used to study what the author was actually communicating instead of creating our own 'narrative.' It is the embedded moral relativism of our public education which is destroying some rather good talent out there. They are told to 'find' a narrative which 'speaks for them or others.' Meaning don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. Excellent anecdotal example of "embedded moral relativism" intended to corrupt and condition the youngins' to misinterpret the truth of any given matter early on. If you weren't following so closely filtering the garbage, you'd never have caught on. You've nailed THE problem. Too bad the Establishment Cultists know the vast majority will not be filtering. Inevitable: Buffy and Skippy calling Social Services about Daddy's "dangerous" guns that they "are a-skeed of." Needless to say we are homeschooling my youngest this year. Wife and I are no longer impressed with teachers teaching from a workbook. Any idiot can do that so why not me. :) Plus, he does not get bombarded with garbage which I have to deprogram at night. We use that extra time now to study theology and Bible reading. Win win situation. :) Excellent! WIN-WIN. (Man -- how insane is it that our children must be "de-programmed" from public education propaganda??)
Best investment you and Mrs. Red can make :-)
#105. To: Tooconservative (#103) The owners think if they just pander now, it'll pay off later in avoiding a strike or demands that they let the NFL become the playas SJW propaganda platform. I think...that's exactly the inside-the-box narrative "they" have calculated would be widely accepted. NOT the theory of a "kook" like mine. Nope. The owners aren't THAT naive to assume a quid pro quo concession from playas in exchange for cratering the NFL fan base. Makes no sense. Nor should anyone believe that Goodell isn't a mere puppet who fears neither the NFL owners, the DoJ, nor playa strike. The "Playas"? They aren't THIS smart OR organized to pull off what's been orchestrated since Kaep decided to go commando all by his lonesome, going, "Meh," as he's become a half-black martyr while surrendered guaranteed millions.
#106. To: Tooconservative (#103) ...wear stylish new "Death To Whitey" emblems or some such. But...didn't Kaep basically wear his stylish, "Death To Cops" sock already? WITH IMPUNITY from Goodell and NFL owners? I can easily see black-fist emblems or some other unofficial incendiary NFL-sanctioned "FU"s on its way to the field. ESPN will breathlessly report it in between half-smoked Marlboros.
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