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Title: Texas teen fatally shoots himself while taking selfie[Darwin Award]
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/texas-teen-fa ... -taking-selfie-153229881.html#
Published: Sep 3, 2015
Author: Jon Herskovitz
Post Date: 2015-09-03 18:32:55 by Justified
Keywords: None
Views: 7338
Comments: 33
AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) - A 19-year-old Texas man who was posing with a gun for a social media selfie photo accidentally shot himself and died from the wounds, Houston police said on Wednesday.
"A witness told police he was taking a selfie with a gun and the gun accidentally discharged," Houston police spokeswoman Jodi Silva said.
The identity of the man killed in the Tuesday incident in Houston has been withheld pending an investigation by the coroner.
He was pronounced dead at the scene by paramedics. He had shot himself in the upper body, police said.
(Reporting by Jon Herskovitz in Austin, Texas; Editing by Mohammad Zargham)
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and the gun accidentally discharged
Guns do not accidentally do anything! People load guns, chamber round and pull triggers. Guns just lie there!
Btw yes its who you think. I saw the picture.
#2. To: Justified (#1)
yes its who you think. I saw the picture.
Texas Senator Rafael Cruz, the Canuck?
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#3. To: hondo68 (#2)
You dislike Cruz that much?
#4. To: Justified (#0)
"A witness told police he was taking a selfie with a gun and the gun accidentally discharged,"
Guns don't accidentally discharge, they may be discharged by accident, but on their won they can do nothing but lay where ever they are placed.
#5. To: Justified, Natural Born Canadian (#3)
dislike Cruz
He'd make a great president of Canada, or Cuba. He's not eligible to be president of the US.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#6. To: hondo68 (#5)
He's not eligible to be president of the US.
Obama ripped that right of the constitution. Putin could be president of Amerika.
#7. To: Justified (#0)
He was pronounced dead at the scene by paramedics. He had shot himself in the upper body, police said.
Mother Nature hard at work... excellent.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#8. To: Justified (#6)
Obama ripped that right of the constitution. Putin could be president of Amerika.
He'd be a great improvement over the last four we've had.
#9. To: Justified (#6)
Putin could be president of Amerika.
True,but why would he step down from her permanent position of President for Life of Russia?
Especially when the Russians are more docile and accepting of dictators than Americans?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#10. To: Justified (#0)
You just gotta love it anytime the trash takes itself out.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#11. To: sneakypete (#10)
Lots of kids drink and do stupid stuff with guns. I wouldn't celebrate it too much.
#12. To: All, Justified, sneakypete, GrandIsland, hondo68 (#11)
More on the Texas case:
 Get that young man a Darwin Award:
There are few things dumber than pointing a gun at your own head. One of those dumber things is then pulling the trigger. * * * There are some sites and social media labeling this death as the “first fatal selfie,” but I don’t know of any empirical evidence supporting that claim. For that matter, it doesn’t appear even the first fatal selfie in the past month. A Milwaukee man fatally shot himself in the femoral artery less than two weeks ago while attempting to reholster a pistol after taking a selfie. |
And from the link:
 Timothy Phonisay (Facebook) A 22-year-old Milwaukee man accidentally shot himself in the femoral artery around 11:00 PM Friday evening while attempting to reholster a pistol. Despite the best efforts of the local hospital trauma units, Timothy Phonisay did not survive his wounds.
Another news outlet, the Journal Sentinel, was able to provide a little more detail.
It’s horrible that young Mr. Phonisay lost his life from such a preventable mistake. Let’s see if we can piece together what went wrong, in hopes of preventing similar tragedies in the future. On Friday evening, Mr. Phonisay apparently decided that he wanted to talk a selfie with his handgun, described in the Journal Sentinel as a “Springfield .45 -caliber handgun.” While there is the possibility that Mr. Phonisay was carrying one of Springfield Armory’s 1911-style pistols, it is statistically more likely that he was carrying one of the company’s more popular polymer-framed, striker-fired pistols from the XD, XD(M), or XD(S) lines. The polymer frame Springfield pistols are less expensive, lighter, and more commonly sold than the 1911s, and are unfortunately more frequently associated with negligent discharges. Mr. Phonisay shot himself while reholstering his pistol, and the fact that he shot his femoral artery on the right side of his groin confirms he was attempting to reholster a gun carried in the appendix position. We do not know, and are likely to never know, is if Mr. Phonisay still had his finger inside the triggerguard of his pistol and accidentally depressed the trigger with his finger, or if the firearm’s trigger snagged on an article of clothing or the holster itself causing it to fire. What is known is that something depressed the trigger while he was reholstering, causing the gun to discharge. Mr. Phonisay had only owned this hand gun for three months. It is probable that he did not have much training beyond that mandated to obtain a concealed carry permit in Wisconsin, and he almost certainly had no formal instruction in how to use an appendix carry holster. Use of a proper appendix carry holster and proper technique ensures that you will not point the firearm at your femoral artery. Unfortunately, it is obvious that Mr. Phonisay didn’t follow correct technique, and the gun pointed towards his body, ensuring this negligent discharge would become a fatal one. AIWB is a wonderful carry position. It is very comfortable and secure, and fast to draw when needed. Like every carry technique, however, it requires some training and practice to do safely. |
#13. To: TooConservative (#12)
TC, this is a good thing, regardless how many times it happens.
The child who eats too many marbles as a child, doesn't grow up to spawn more marble eating imbeciles. Since we as a species aren't getting more functional, nature must kick into overdrive and thin the stupid heard.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with dying via your own stupidity... drug addicts, thrill seekers, criminals, drunk drivers... you name it. Just try not to take more FUNCTIONAL people with you.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#14. To: GrandIsland (#13)
There is absolutely nothing wrong with dying via your own stupidity... drug addicts, thrill seekers, criminals, drunk drivers... you name it. Just try not to take more FUNCTIONAL people with you.
Darwin would not agree. For the fittest to survive, they must also avoid getting killed by members of the dead gene pool as well.
Darwin is so underappreciated, mostly because he wasn't really fun at parties.
#15. To: TooConservative (#14)
For the fittest to survive, they must also avoid getting killed by members of the dead gene pool as well.
I was under the impression that this was the case in this idiotic incident. lol
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#16. To: GrandIsland, sneakypete (#15)
You two might like this 75yo shooting exhibition film by the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department. Includes intense competition for Darwin Awards at the beginning, before the Thompson machine-gun penmanship demonstration. GI might know this rare old flick already. Almost unimaginable that any of it was in color in 1936 but it was.
#17. To: TooConservative (#12)
#18. To: misterwhite (#17) (Edited)
Now, that's REAL muzzle flash! Your other movie was fake Hollywood muzzle flash.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#19. To: TooConservative (#11)
Lots of kids drink and do stupid stuff with guns. I wouldn't celebrate it too much.
I'm happy to celebrate it because the stupid SOB killed himself instead of someone else.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#20. To: TooConservative (#12)
The victim’s family said he leaves behind two young daughters
Yeah,19 and 2 daughters. I wonder if they are both with the same female,and if he had a job and was working to support them. Somehow,I doubt it/
and that he was a fun-loving person.
Obviously he loved to bang,but the last "Bang" dun tooken all de fun outta him.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#21. To: TooConservative (#16)
That one guy is a hell of a good shot,but that is some seriously scary crap they are doing.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#22. To: misterwhite (#17)
I honestly don't get that quick draw stuff. Dangerous and useless. Anytime you think you MIGHT need a gun,you should already have your hand on it,if not already have it out and held down at your side. If you really need it in a hurry,you have screwed up,but chances are if you have carried it long and in the same holster and same position,you can get it out in a hurry if you need to without all that dangerous practicing.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#23. To: sneakypete (#20)
Yeah,19 and 2 daughters. I wonder if they are both with the same female,and if he had a job and was working to support them. Somehow,I doubt it/
While some people allow most any dumb death to be considered a Darwin Award, I always insist that the death must occur prior to them passing their genes along to offspring.
Apparently, some people still don't understand Darwin's ideas about natural selection and how they work. In short, the dumb/deficient die before reproducing, the smart/superior survive to reproduce.
#24. To: TooConservative (#23)
I agree, it's always best that the ignorant die before they spawn... or natural selection doesn't work.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#25. To: sneakypete, GrandIsland (#22) (Edited)
I honestly don't get that quick draw stuff. Dangerous and useless. Anytime you think you MIGHT need a gun,you should already have your hand on it,if not already have it out and held down at your side. If you really need it in a hurry,you have screwed up,but chances are if you have carried it long and in the same holster and same position,you can get it out in a hurry if you need to without all that dangerous practicing.
It wouldn't surprise me if amateurs who practice quick-draw have a much higher accidental shooting rate than gun owners in general. Years back, I knew a guy that shot himself in the ass this way.
There are a lot of really dumb gun accidents every year, a number occur every single day.
It seems a lot of them are some suburban slob in his little camo outfit, trying to re-enact his own version of Rambo or some (almost entirely mythical) quick-draw scenario from some old Western movie. Alcohol is often involved.
IOW, a lot of idiots shoot themselves playing with guns like they're toys. Which brings us back to Mr. Darwin and this thread.
There is something a little mean-spirited about these Darwin Awards. In coming years, anyone who is a family member or an old friend or acquaintance who happens to do a Google search on the victim's name, perhaps looking for stories about them, will come across dozens (or hundreds) of threads calling them Darwin Award winners. IOW: the human race is better off because this person died and the human gene pool is now less polluted as a result.
If it was your son or nephew or grandson who died in an accident, would you like reading that he was a genetic throwback and the human race is better off now that he blew his head off by mugging for a selfie while pointing a gun at his (admittedly empty) head? I doubt it.
#26. To: TooConservative (#25)
If it was your son or nephew or grandson who died in an accident, would you like reading that he was a genetic throwback and the human race is better off now that he blew his head off by mugging for a selfie while pointing a gun at his (admittedly empty) head? I doubt it.
Yes, to my deceased relative that through his/her own stupidity, is now dead... good riddance. I can say it... but, I'm a little less sensitive than the average sheep.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#27. To: GrandIsland, sneakypete (#26) (Edited)
Yes, to my deceased relative that through his/her own stupidity, is now dead... good riddance. I can say it... but, I'm a little less sensitive than the average sheep.
I have a relative who died in a hunting accident, a favorite uncle who died when I was about 5.
He and his best friend were out hunting deer about dawn. They saw one and he got out from the drivers seat just as his buddy got out and aimed his gun across the top of the roof of the pickup. He was shot in the back of the head by his dumbass best friend.
My uncle was newly married and had no children yet. So should I consider a Darwin Award for him? Or is this just chickenshit humor people like to post online that they would never dare say to a grieving mother or father or grandparent or sibling at the award winner's funeral?
#28. To: TooConservative (#25)
If it was your son or nephew or grandson who died in an accident, would you like reading that he was a genetic throwback and the human race is better off now that he blew his head off by mugging for a selfie while pointing a gun at his (admittedly empty) head? I doubt it.
I wouldn't worry about that too much. Chances are nobody is his family is into that "read-in stuff" anyhow.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#29. To: TooConservative (#27)
Or is this just chickenshit humor people like to post online that they would never dare say to a grieving mother or father or grandparent or sibling at the award winner's funeral?
Being polite and considerate is not being chickenshit.
Besides,in the case you mentioned with your uncle,he wasn't the stupid one,he was the guy shot dead by the stupid one.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#30. To: TooConservative (#27)
My uncle was newly married and had no children yet. So should I consider a Darwin
Absolutely not. He didn't do anything wrong... Nobody wins the Darwin Award here because the idiot isn't the one that died... and it wasn't by his own idiocy.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#31. To: GrandIsland, sneakypete (#30)
Absolutely not. He didn't do anything wrong... Nobody wins the Darwin Award here because the idiot isn't the one that died... and it wasn't by his own idiocy.
Carried to its logical conclusion, dying in any preventable accident (like looking to check where your buddy is pointing his gun on a hunt) might qualify as a Darwin Award. Isn't being able to avoid putting your head in the path of a bullet a survival trait?
At any rate, the whole Darwin Award thing is a little overrated and is fundamentally mean-spirited toward the victim's family members and friends.
#32. To: TooConservative (#31)
Carried to its logical conclusion, dying in any preventable accident (like looking to check where your buddy is pointing his gun on a hunt) might qualify as a Darwin
There are four basic rules of firearm safety... one is being aware of your target and what's beyond.
The person solely responsible for avoiding a gun related accident, is ONLY the shooter.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#33. To: GrandIsland (#32)
The person solely responsible for avoiding a gun related accident, is ONLY the shooter.
So can you explain my uncle's death?
The idiot whose genes should have been culled by natural selection killed by accident someone who was not at fault. So were the shooter's genes superior or were my uncle's? Lots of people avoid getting shot by others by being very careful around anyone with a gun.
A Darwin Award does have a fairly specific meaning and a range of accompanying conditions. Either you believe in Darwin or you don't. And if you do, then Darwin never rests. Ever. And that has implications for the lives and deaths of every human being, without exception.
So, let's say that getting killed because you (or your parents) aren't smart enough to protect you adequately from, say, a deranged killer like in the Sandy Hook school massacre. Did all those child victims at Sandy Hook win Darwin Awards because they got killed (by their parents neglecting their need for protection)? It would seem to me that it is the parents of the Sandy Hook victims who would win the Darwin Awards because, having produced progeny, they failed to protect them by ensuring their protection or homeschooling them or putting them in private school with armed guards, etc. The Sandy Hook shooter did prevent the Sandy Hook parents from transmitting their genes to future generations. In some cases, given how many families have only one or two children, their offspring and genetics in future generations are reduced by 50% (1 of 2 children killed) or 100% (only child killed). Or is it possible that the Sandy Hook children and the Sandy Hook parents are both groups of Darwin Award winners.
As you can see, Darwin is a real bastard. So am I. But words do have meaning. I don't think you just get to believe in Darwin and Darwin Awards when you feel like it or want some cheap laughs over someone's death that you don't know personally.
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