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Title: Coming To America (Neil Diamond's Anthem)
Source:
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRTHdC7k4uY
Published: Apr 18, 2015
Author: Johnny Kim
Post Date: 2015-04-18 10:33:52 by Liberator
Keywords: Immigration, legal, NeilDiamond
Views: 11939
Comments: 36
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As a school project, some students honor America's welcoming arm to immigrants -- presumably, LEGAL ones. Excellent job with their photos as choice of song. Pretty touching tribute....
My ancestors all entered through Ellis Island. Must have been daunting but at the same time absolutely awesome entering New York Harbor and seeing the Statue of Liberty as a symbolic of hope for the future.
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#1. To: Liberator (#0) (Edited)
Give me your tired,
your poor,
your huddled masses
yearning to breathe free.
The wretched refuse
on your teeming shores,
send these…the Homeless,
the tempest tossed, to me.
I lift my lamp
beside the golden door.
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John 8:32
"and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free"
#2. To: Liberator (#0) (Edited)
My ancestors all entered through Ellis Island.
Snapshot of a family portrait on my wall. The original photograph was created circa 1918+ by my Great Great Grandfather. He was a blacksmith in Russia, and then in Johnstown Colorado -- after loading his family into a Cattle-boat headed for the Statue of Liberty.
There's so much symbolism in this photo. The piled snow, the small cold hands in pockets -- the bare skin and defiant eyes that seem to say: "Cold? We survived the Russian Revolution with nothing but a wheelbarrow full of tools and the clothes on our backs. We SURVIVED.... and intend to keep on doing so... it's a Tradition."
The lady on the left was my Great-Great granny. I've found everybody in the photo, except her, in the Ellis Island registry.... so we think maybe she was probably, technicaly, an "illegal" imigrant.
I have a 5 generation snapshot of her holding me as an infant. In the same photo are my dad, his mom, and the woman on the middle, my Great granny whose matriarchal leadership our family had the pleasure of knowing until the mid 1990's.
They don't make 'em like that anymore.
#3. To: Liberator (#0)
presumably, LEGAL ones
Thanks for posting.
And isn't it revealing how the dialogue has been subtly changed in public discourse? Now, if you're having problems with open borders and people coming into the country from who knows where with a who knows what agenda, YOU are the one with the problem.
But since their arrival advances the aims of the Ruling Class (providing cheap labor for the R branch and reliable votes for the D branch), it's all cool.
#4. To: Rufus T Firefly (#3)
But since their arrival advances the aims of the Ruling Class
There is no god but the Czar!?
And remember Rufus (now that you gots yours) NO SLEEPING IN BEDS! err {edit} WIF SHEETS!
#5. To: VxH (#4)
now that you gots yours
I really don't know what your problem is.
NO SLEEPING IN BEDS! err {edit} WIF SHEETS!
If you wish to dialogue in English, I'll be glad to oblige.
Otherwise, have a good day.
#6. To: VxH (#2)
Excellent heirloom photo.
The symbolism of your family as well as the ones in the video are indeed very marked and unique.
Countless millions arrived with nothing BUT the clothes on their back and no expectation or demand that America would do anything for them but provide hope and opportunity.
#7. To: Rufus T Firefly (#3)
Thanks for posting.And isn't it revealing how the dialogue has been subtly changed in public discourse? Now, if you're having problems with open borders and people coming into the country from who knows where with a who knows what agenda, YOU are the one with the problem.
You're welcome, brutha.
Yes, amazing ain't it? Especially that the dialogue or discourse promoted by the Left has now succeeded to the point where it's considered near-criminal to unfurl the American flag, exhibit patriotism, AND insist immigration laws be enforced.
Since their arrival advances the aims of the Ruling Class (providing cheap labor for the R branch and reliable votes for the D branch), it's all cool.
The Ruling Class elites are about globalism and destroying American sovereignty as well as the American middle class. Traitors used to be hung. Now there's a celebration at the Rose Garden on their behalf.
#8. To: VxH (#4)
There is no god but the Czar!?
Please leave your "CZAR!" calling card at other threads. This one is about reflection of many of our ancestors and their daunting quest for liberty and a new beginning in life (in accordance to American Immigration law and protocol.)
Thanks.
#9. To: Liberator (#7)
The Ruling Class elites are about globalism and destroying American sovereignty as well as the American middle class. Traitors used to be hung. Now there's a celebration at the Rose Garden on their behalf.
You're exactly right.
I wonder why that has happened, though.
While some of us are simple or two-dimensional, I venture to say most are intelligent. We have the capability to do the right thing - IF WE ARE presented with facts (not just platitudes and sound-bites). And yes - the media (charged with providing FACTS) is biased and broken. Has been for years.
Why did we let that happen?
Our public schools (and now most colleges and universities) and not centers of learning; rather they are places of indoctrination. They have been that way for years - possibly since the end of WWII.
Why did we let that happen?
Our political system is broken and corrupt and, contrary to the opinions of some, has been that way since long before George W. Bush. The Constitution (and its Amendment process) was a precious gift, yet we no longer live under it.
Why did we let that happen?
Oh well, such is the way of Man, I suppose. Perhaps it's true that wealth and affluence is a two-edged sword - causing people to become fat,dumb, and lazy
Once again, thanks for posting. My ancestors (I got into doing genealogies a while back) came mostly from Ireland, Scotland, France and England. Some were already here to meet the boats.
A real (American) mix.
#10. To: VxH (#2)
Thanks for the family portrait along with your description of it. Nice!
#11. To: Liberator (#8)
Please leave your "CZAR!" calling card at other threads.
The first time I heard about the CZAR, it was in stories being told about the "Old Country" around the Thanksgiving dinner table.
It was a recounting of first-hand experience of the terrible nature such state-establishments have inflicted upon themselves and those unfortunate enough to be caught within their purview.
this one is about reflection of many of our ancestors and their daunting quest for liberty and a new beginning in life
That's right it is.
They also told of the Opricnhi, and how the KGB originated as the Secret Police of the Russian Orthodox' state-establishment.
Evidently the "calling cards" of religious goons like you are nothing new.
"reflect" on that.
#12. To: Rufus T Firefly (#5) (Edited)
I really don't know what your problem is.
How do you differentiate the corporate-collective state-established tyranny my family of refugees was fleeing, circa 1917, from that which is being fled TODAY in Central and South America?
My family didn't get a visa at the embassy to ask for permission to come to the U.S.A. they crammed themselves into a cattle boat so they could survive.
If your home was burned by thugs and your wife and children in danger of being murdered - wouldn't you do everything in your power to see them safely elsewhere El Norte?
#13. To: Liberator (#0)
..and the Sun[One]-God will make for your way...
#14. To: VxH (#11)
Evidently the "calling cards" of religious goons like you are nothing new."reflect" on that.
Let me again remind you that this thread has nothing to do with religion or hard politics.
I'm up for hashing out your petty obsessions...but not everywhere. Like here.
#15. To: Liberator (#14) (Edited)
Let me again remind you that this thread has nothing to do with religion or hard politics.
Yeah Riiiiiight.
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"While some of us are simple or two-dimensional, I venture to say most are intelligent. We have the capability to do the right thing - IF WE ARE presented with facts (not just platitudes and sound-bites). And yes - the media (charged with providing FACTS) is biased and broken. Has been for years.
...
Our political system is broken and corrupt and, contrary to the opinions of some, has been that way since long before George W. Bush. The Constitution (and its Amendment process) was a precious gift, yet we no longer live under it. "
...
blah blah blah
libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...gi?ArtNum=39162&Disp=9#C9
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You're as full of one-sided disingenuous baloney as always.
The FACTS surrounding the reasons people had to flee the Old Country may not jibe with the revisionism being passed through your WallTardian manure-spreader, but they are the FACTS none the less.
#16. To: Rufus T Firefly (#9)
We have the capability to do the right thing - IF WE ARE presented with facts (not just platitudes and sound-bites). And yes - the media (charged with providing FACTS) is biased and broken. Has been for years.Our public schools (and now most colleges and universities) and not centers of learning; rather they are places of indoctrination. They have been that way for years - possibly since the end of WWII.
Our political system is broken and corrupt and, contrary to the opinions of some, has been that way since long before George W. Bush. The Constitution (and its Amendment process) was a precious gift, yet we no longer live under it.
Why did we let that happen?
Great rant.
I'd like to excuse our tolerance (of who are plainly victims of evil) as a matter of frogs gradually boiling. I'd LIKE to, but CAN'T. We've seen the body politic (even those supposedly "representing" us), schools, and media colluding now for decades.
Isn't it odd that we -- the majority who are conservative, possess common sense, are moralist (if not Christian), and consider ourselves patriots who "play by the rules" -- are lied to, ignored, maligned, slandered, and abused by the our own government, schools, and media?
Despite 40 straight years of this institutional subversion, as a group we NEVER band together as one great passionate and PO'd tidal wave of righteousness to protest this betrayal of treason, UN-Americanism, lies, and propaganda? Why haven't WE demanded justice and an end to the BS??
IS it because we've been conditioned like Pavlov's dogs? Been conditioned by media, schools, and government to feel guilt over our supposed "intolerance"? To be self-loathing masochists? Do we imagine ourselves paying some kind of "penance" for some imagined offense to the rest of the world?
OR...maybe it is that the PTB let us have juuust enough bread and circuses to keep us...content...yet accept our status still CAGED CAPTIVES AND SCAPEGOATS.
Such is the way of Man, I suppose. Perhaps it's true that wealth and affluence is a two-edged sword - causing people to become fat,dumb, and lazy.
Your answer is more likely the case in one short, simple answer to a bunch of loaded questions. The worst part -- the piper is yet to be paid in full. In the meantime, we grab another beer, tear open another bag of chips, and turn on the game....until someone blows the whistle of our own "game." At that point we'll all form an orderly line and march straight over the cliff like lemmings.
Once again, thanks for posting. My ancestors (I got into doing genealogies a while back) came mostly from Ireland, Scotland, France and England. Some were already here to meet the boats. A real (American) mix.
Again, you're very welcome my friend and brother. I share your frustration and incredulity in our situation. Blessedly, I reckon we both recognize that our real and true sovereignty will not be of this world in any case.
Yup -- your genealogical roots...VERY "American." How far back were you able to track your ancestors?
Half my son's roots are basically the same as yours -- Irish, Scottish, French. His mother's family tree was traced back to the late 1600s. Mine were Ellis Island refugees from Sicily and Naples, respectively. :-) Very humble roots, but overcame by the second generation.
#17. To: Liberator (#16)
IS it because we've been conditioned like Pavlov's dogs? Been conditioned by media, schools, and government to feel guilt over our supposed "intolerance"?
"IS it because we've been conditioned like Pavlov's dogs? Been conditioned by media, schools, government, and RELIGION to feel guilt over our supposed "intolerance"?"
There. Fixed it for ya.
#18. To: VxH (#15)
This is my last post to you before you crash-land onto my BOZO list.
I don't know the nature of your deep-seated psychological problem, but it's serious enough to warrant a flight out to Swiss clinic in a straight-jacket.
Good luck.
#19. To: Rufus T Firefly (#5)
NO SLEEPING IN BEDS! err {edit} WIF SHEETS!If you wish to dialogue in English, I'll be glad to oblige.
Not familiar with George Orwell's Animal Farm?
ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL! err {edit} BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS!
The revolutionary pigs moved into the farm house... and then started changing the rules to suit themselves.
Orwell was describing the Russian Revolution.
#20. To: Liberator (#18) (Edited)
"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;...that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. ""I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786https://www.google.com/webhp?#q=truth%20is%20great%20and%20will%20prevail%20if%20left%20to%20herself
#21. To: Fred Mertz (#10)
Thanks for the family portrait along with your description of it. Nice!
Welcome.
#22. To: Liberator (#18) (Edited)
This is my last post to you before you crash-land onto my BOZO list.
Halaluja! Silence from my anti-jeffersonian stalker at last!
#23. To: VxH (#2) (Edited)
My ancestors all entered through Ellis Island.
My maternal great grandparents and grandparents did also.
By the early 1950s my maternal grandparents owned and a
general store and ice cream parlor in Wildwood New Jersey
(a resort town).
But he got tired of the long ours, and moved up into the
Philadelphia suburbs and took a job managing a drug store.
Later took a job managing all of the bars in the Garden
State Park horse racing complex. A job which mostly
consisted of ordering the booze, keeping inventory, hiring
and firing the bartenders and barmaids - and making sure
that they stayed sober.
Pretty easy job that kept him in a new Chrysler every year -
sometimes every other year if he had one that he liked at
the time. Like that black one (a Newport). The green
Newport (last one ever owned) was a major piece of junk however.
My mom inherited it from him when he died.
It's engine ultimately caught on fire...
The black Newport (the good one) was a '66 like this one, I think...
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#24. To: Liberator (#16)
How far back were you able to track your ancestors?
My English surname (dad's side) - back to a g-g-grandfather born between 1815-1820 in "New York" (that I got from the 1840 census, city not specified). Nothing on him or his predecessors before that - maybe he landed from Mars :-)
But in my dad's family, they apparently had a tradition of naming their children (middle names) after ancestors. My dad's brother (my uncle) had a middle name that was actually a Scottish surname. When I was doing genealogies, I had an "aha" moment when I discovered that same surname was my g-g-grandmother's maiden name (she married that same g-g-grandfather I mentioned earlier in 1837)
That brought on some fascinating stuff. That Scottish family kept tremendous records and journals - many of which are now on-line. Couple of the things I "discovered" - the family traveled by covered wagon across what was then the Pennsylvania wilderness - from eastern (around Philly) to what is now Pittsburgh. That took place probably in the late 1700s to the early 1800s. Their records go all the way back to the 1500s in the Kintayre (sp?) peninsula area of SW Scotland.
On my moms and her mom's side, I discovered I had a g-g-grandfather who served in the Civil War (for the North, I think, but I'm not sure)
Great stuff - especially for history buffs
#25. To: Chuck_Wagon (#23)
My maternal great grandparents and grandparents did [enter through Ellis Island] also.
What ancestry, Chuck? And what of your paternal side?
By the early 1950s my maternal grandparents owned and a general store and ice cream parlor in Wildwood New Jersey (a resort town).
Which part of Wildwood? Spent a few summers down there (early 60s) for two weeks at a time as a young kid with aunts, uncles and cousins. The beach and boardwalk were THE best on the Jersey shore, and arguably on the entire east coast. Wildwood is the Canadians' "Miami."
Later took a job managing all of the bars in the Garden State Park horse racing complex. A job which mostly consisted of ordering the booze, keeping inventory, hiring and firing the bartenders and barmaids - and making sure that they stayed sober.
From Wildwood to that gig running Garden State? He liked action :-)
My mom inherited it from him when he died. It's engine ultimately caught on fire...The black Newport (the good one) was a '66 like this one, I think...
My pops had a '67 Newport...and handed it down to me some years later. What a monstah cruiser. Bit of trivia -- the designer of that gen of Chrysler Newport also designed the classic '61 gen of Lincoln Continental T-Bird.
#26. To: Rufus T Firefly, Vicomte13 (#24)
My English surname (dad's side) - back to a g-g-grandfather born between 1815-1820 in "New York" (that I got from the 1840 census, city not specified). Nothing on him or his predecessors before that - maybe he landed from Mars :-)
Yeah, maybe GGG-Pappy wuz a martian slave, and a UFO ejected him into New Yawk to "help colonize that planet of xenophobes" :-) You've tracked your GGG's and surname pretty far back...NY but no record of city/town? That's far more than I can say of my own paternal side.
My dad's brother (my uncle) had a middle name that was actually a Scottish surname. When I was doing genealogies, I had an "aha" moment when I discovered that same surname was my g-g-grandmother's maiden name (she married that same g-g-grandfather I mentioned earlier in 1837)
Fun connecting those type of dots.
That Scottish family kept tremendous records and journals - many of which are now on-line. Couple of the things I "discovered" - the family traveled by covered wagon across what was then the Pennsylvania wilderness - from eastern (around Philly) to what is now Pittsburgh. That took place probably in the late 1700s to the early 1800s. Their records go all the way back to the 1500s in the Kintayre (sp?) peninsula area of SW Scotland.
That's awesome. Your ancestors help colonize outer-fringe of the colonies at a time when it was dangerous going. That you can actually track family back into the 1500s...amazing.
Vicomte13 has also been able to track his own ancestry fairly deep into his European past....and with great detail.
#27. To: Rufus T Firefly (#24)
On my moms and her mom's side, I discovered I had a g-g-grandfather who served in the Civil War (for the North, I think, but I'm not sure)Great stuff - especially for history buffs
That's always fascinating for history buffs...BUT, you've GOT to get to the bottom of which side he fought on....because according to the liberal narrative, if he fought for the North, he's considered a "noble liberator" who "fought against slavery"; If he fought for the South, he's considered a "loser-redneck, fighting for slavery."
:-)
#28. To: Liberator (#25)
From Wildwood to that gig running Garden State? He liked action :-)
Managing the drug store was apparently to sedate for him...
#29. To: Liberator (#25)
...And what of your paternal side?...
My paternal grandmother died when my father was
was a small boy - my paternal grandfather
died when my father was 18 in the Marines fighting
WW2.
So I only ever met one set of grandparents.
A few decades ago, my parents and my little brother went
out to Ohio to visit my father's big brother.
My dad hired a fishing charter boat to take everybody
fishing. (On Lake Erie, I think.). I don't know if they
caught anything.
But I never met the man. He is deceased now.
#30. To: Chuck_Wagon (#29)
My paternal grandmother died when my father was was a small boy - my paternal grandfather died when my father was 18 in the Marines fighting WW2.
Whoa...that was kinda rough for your dad. Your dad's dad fought and died in WWII? If pops was 18, his father had to be...on the older side as far as our military went.
I only ever met one set of grandparents.
And blessed for that.
A few decades ago, my parents and my little brother went out to Ohio to visit my father's big brother. My dad hired a fishing charter boat to take everybody fishing. (On Lake Erie, I think.). I don't know if they caught anything. But I never met the man. He is deceased now.
Sounded like a great, emotional day; catching anything in Lake Erie was obvious anti-climactic (and better for their health) in any case. Too bad you couldn't make it to join your folks and bro make it to meet Unc. We all take too much for granted.
#31. To: Chuck_Wagon (#28)
Managing the drug store was apparently to sedate for him...
Sure sounds that way, eh?
#32. To: Liberator (#30)
...Your dad's dad fought and died in WWII?...
No - I wasn't clear - my dad's dad died of a heart attack,
while my dad was fighting in WW2.
"Too bad you couldn't make it to join your folks
and bro make it to meet Unc."
You get only one guess as to WHY. Work, work, work - I had to work.
I wish I hadn't - and had gone along and met him.
But that's the way it goes.
#33. To: Liberator (#31)
...to sedate for him...Sure sounds that way, eh?
I don't know - I never talked to him about it.
He passed away in the very late 70s -
before I entered high school.
#34. To: Chuck_Wagon (#32)
No - I wasn't clear - my dad's dad died of a heart attack, while my dad was fighting in WW2.
Hmmm....that's even MORE of tough a situation. Did 18 year old dad get the news while serving?
You get only one guess as to WHY. Work, work, work - I had to work. I wish I hadn't - and had gone along and met him. But that's the way it goes.
Yeah, I figured. You've worked coast to coast, border to border. And worked your behind off. We don't have a magic carpet or crystal ball.
#35. To: Liberator (#34)
You've worked coast to coast, border to border.
Hey, only in NJ, PA, VA, NC, SC, FL, AZ, OR and NV.
Not including business trips to NY, CA, MN, OH, TN,
BC, Ontario, and wherever else I forgot.
But it isn't like I've been BUSY, or anything...
#36. To: Liberator (#34)
Oh - also technical training seminars in Greenbelt, Maryland -
and a business trip to Boston, Mass.
Knew I forgot some things...
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