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Title: GOP debate is wicked
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URL Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65719.html
Published: Oct 12, 2011
Author: ROGER SIMON
Post Date: 2011-10-12 11:30:40 by Skip Intro
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Views: 35655
Comments: 63
The Republican race has turned into “The Wizard of Oz.” Rick Perry wants a brain. Mitt Romney wants a heart. And any number of candidates are Dorothy, realizing there is no place like home and they should have stayed there.
Herman Cain is seeking courage. He needs the courage to face the fact he is never going to be the Republican nominee, no matter how well he does in the polls. He needs the courage to settle for something far better than the presidency: His own show on Fox.
They all march down the yellow brick road that leads not from rally to rally or, heaven forbid, voter to voter, but from debate to debate, like the one held Tuesday at Dartmouth College in Hanover, N.H. All the candidates were seated and co-moderator Charlie Rose described the setting as a “kitchen table.”
But if it had been my kitchen table growing up, I would have left home.
Ostensibly devoted to the topic of economics, the debate was instead devoted to sniping and one-liners and familiar regurgitations from the candidates’ briefing books. If it is possible to hold a debate and have nobody win, this was it.
But, once again, Romney didn’t lose, which makes him the same thing as a winner. If he could only find a heart. He seems like someone who plays a president on TV, not someone who really yearns for the job. If you put your ear to his chest, would you hear the lub-dub, lub-dub of a warm human heart or the whirr and click of a cold, calculating machine?
As usual, he had his lines down: “The answer is to cut federal spending. The second part of the answer is to get our economy to grow. Get Americans back to work and paying taxes. I think it’s a terrible idea to cut defense. I think it’s a terrible idea to raise taxes.”
Whirr. Click.
Rick Perry, who blamed his past poor debate performances on being “tired,” will have to come up with a new excuse for why he cannot find his brain. Tuesday night, he didn’t look like he needed sleep, but caffeine. In reality, he is probably brighter than his predecessor as governor of Texas, George W. Bush (who nonetheless managed to get through eight years in the White House). But Perry simply cannot show it.
Visibly nervous, he stumbled from answer to answer, and even his rehearsed lines seemed defensive and prickly. “Mitt’s had six years to work on a plan,” Perry grumped. “I’ve been at this about eight weeks.”
Pray for another eight weeks, governor.
And then there were the lions and tigers and bears.
Michele Bachmann, a former flavor of the week, came armed with one-liners. She hit Herman Cain’s trademark 9-9-9- tax plan, hoping to pick up conservative — and mystical — voters. “Take 9-9-9 and turn it upside down,” Bachmann said. “The devil is in the details.”
The audience, which is to be commended for never cheering once for death, heard that reference to the sign of the devil and went, “Oooooo.”
(Go ahead and call Bachmann the Wicked Witch of the West. I’m not going to risk it. Someone might try to throw a bucket of water on her.)
Rick Santorum said at one point: “I want to go to war with China.” He was talking about an economic war. I think.
Jon Huntsman, moderate, reasonable and therefore un-nominatable in the Republican Party, reduced himself to low comedy. “I would respectfully disagree with Rick Santorum; Pennsylvania is not the gas capital of the country,” Huntsman said. “Washington, D.C., is the gas capital of the country.”
He then waited for the guffaws that never came.
It went on for 90 grueling minutes, with each candidate elbowing the other around the table. “I’m still speaking! I’m still speaking! I’m still speaking!” Romney said at one point.
Which allows me to bring this extended metaphor to a close with a very famous and very apt exchange.
Dorothy: “How do you talk if you don’t have a brain?”
Scarecrow: “Well, some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don’t they?” Subscribe to *Elections 2012*
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#14. To: mininggold, Murron (#11)
That told me all I had to know about your knowledge of horses.
Ming, you delve into a lot of subjects that you profess working (if not intimate) knowledge of, and then demonstrate you don't know squat about...
This comment sounds like more of the same.
But then, every idiot who had a pony when they were a kid, thinks they're an expert...
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#15. To: mininggold (#11)
That told me all I had to know about your knowledge of horses.
Hearing voices again, eh?
#16. To: Murron (#15) (Edited)
Hearing voices again, eh?
Party eyes, that was a crackup.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
#17. To: mininggold (#16)
You are the one posting twice to that same comment. You tell me.
Isn't that what ATTENTION WHORES like yourself live for?
#18. To: Capitalist Eric (#14) (Edited)
Ming, you delve into a lot of subjects that you profess working (if not intimate) knowledge of, and then demonstrate you don't know squat about...This comment sounds like more of the same.
But then, every idiot who had a pony when they were a kid, thinks they're an expert...
LOLOL You have to be kidding. I've raised horse since I was fifteen. Even had one in the old Snaffle Bit Futurity when it was originally held in Santa Rosa.
And how many race winners have you bred, raised and ran? We had two Cal Bred Champions and one World Champion come off our farm.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
#19. To: Murron (#17)
Isn't that what ATTENTION WHORES like yourself live for?
Mammy, you've got to try to learn to speak English if you don't want to always look like a stupid hick.
"Generally, you don't use the reflexive or intensive pronoun forms (like "yourself") when the simple objective form of the pronoun ("you") will suffice." - Grammar For Hillbillies
#20. To: Skip Intro (#19)
Mammy, you've got to try to learn to speak English if you don't want to always look like a stupid hick."Generally, you don't use the reflexive or intensive pronoun forms (like "yourself") when the simple objective form of the pronoun ("you") will suffice." - Grammar For Hillbillies
She's just pissed that she's been caught using photos without the proper attribution again.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
#21. To: Skip Intro (#0)
Michele Bachmann, a former flavor of the week, came armed with one-liners. She hit Herman Cain’s trademark 9-9-9- tax plan, hoping to pick up conservative — and mystical — voters. “Take 9-9-9 and turn it upside down,” Bachmann said. “The devil is in the details.”
Fair tax = 666
big - profitable - comfortable govt !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !
#22. To: mininggold (#18)
And how many race winners have you bred, raised and ran?
I don't do racing, with horses. It's cruel and abusive to them... and, if you actually do know shit about horses, you already know what I mean. I've had plenty of experience with them, after you've finished with them. And I've SEEN what you "owners" do.
It's NOT something you should be bragging about...
BTW, what you've had "come of your farm" doesn't mean diddley-shit. I've been to Nationals twice, qualified a lot more... It doesn't mean anything...
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#23. To: war (#12)
BTW, you claim to have seen the orginal Northwoods documents? I call...MAMMY MANURE
She better clean her own stall.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
#24. To: Capitalist Eric, mininggold (#22) (Edited)
I don't do racing, with horses. It's cruel and abusive to them... and, if you actually do know shit about horses, you already know what I mean. I've had plenty of experience with them, after you've finished with them. And I've SEEN what you "owners" do.It's NOT something you should be bragging about...
BTW, what you've had "come of your farm" doesn't mean diddley-shit. I've been to Nationals twice, qualified a lot more... It doesn't mean anything...
Chuckles...a cry out for recognizing "adequacy" if ever there was...
Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]
#25. To: Capitalist Eric (#22) (Edited)
I bet you are a vegan. There are many 'nationals' for the various breeds and uses, just which ones are you talking about?
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
#26. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)
TheBimbo: "And how many race winners have you bred, raised and ran?"
I suppose someone of her limited intellect would confuse 'boarding horses' with breeding, raising and racing them.
#27. To: mininggold (#25)
I bet you're are a vegan.
I'll see your bet, and raise you, to:
I'll bet you're a stupid b!tch.
D'oh!
I win!
Oh, and now for real answer: I've worked with quarter-horses, barrel- racers, and thoroughbred racehorses... After a while, I quit paying attention to the breed, and after a while longer, the horses themselves became a blur... They tend to have hard mouths and really bad attitudes... The ones that had physical problems due to fetlock or knee issues never made it to me, since they couldn't pass a vet-check, and nobody'd want to deal with a crippled horse...
The last time I went to a track was Calgary, where I watched a horse snap his knee while at full speed... The jockey was tossed, and the horse was still trying to run with his leg flopping up into his shoulder, and down his gut, wind-milling up and back...
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#28. To: Murron (#26)
I suppose someone of her limited intellect would confuse 'boarding horses' with breeding, raising and racing them.
You should resuppose...there is nothing on this thread to support that conclusion...
Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]
#29. To: Murron (#26)
I just let it slide.
In my experience (and as a kid on a ranch), a boarder meant another flake of alfalfa, and another stall to clean.
Beyond that, I really didn't care, as long as they were reasonably well- mannered...
[Though I did have a 2 year-old colt who kept nipping me, when I'd be picking his stall... one day he got the back of my arm, and he got it good. After swearing a bit, I walked over, reached up, and bit down on his ear... he lifted me off my feet, then I came back down... and eventually he dropped to his knees, before I let go... Bastard never bit anyone again... LOL. It was worth the mouthful of dusty hair.]
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#30. To: Capitalist Eric, mininggold (#29) (Edited)
That horse tale has horseshit written all over it.
Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]
#31. To: war (#30)
That's because you don't know shit about the subject.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#32. To: Capitalist Eric (#29)
To be honest, neither of us, nor anyone else for that matter, owe paris hilton explanations about our lives, or how we live, let her get her own...lol
#33. To: Capitalist Eric (#31)
That horse tale has horseshit written all over it.
Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]
#34. To: Murron (#32)
paris hilton explanations about our lives...
Were it that good!
God knows how many times I went to school, with my boots smelling like manure.
NOT the kind of thing that got me dates... LOL.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#35. To: Capitalist Eric (#34)
God knows how many times I went to school, with my boots smelling like manure.
I had that same problem after I visited Congress last year . . .
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EASTER ISLAND MYSTERY - - SOLVED!!
#36. To: Capitalist Eric (#34)
My daughter will be here for Thanksgiving, she has a cam, she's always taking pics, I'll get a few shots here, maybe even a few of me too..lol, and post, of the vast pasture land and horses here. It starts at the end of my front yard and goes all around us, there are 3 barns and several outbuilding, it's a life I wouldn't change for anything, like a little piece of heaven on earth.
#37. To: Capitalist Eric, lucysmom, mininggold, Skip Intro, Fred Mertz (#34)
God knows how many times I went to school, with my boots smelling like manure.
You were the stinky kid, Junior?!?
Hoo BOY does that explain...MUCH!!!
Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]
#38. To: Murron (#10)
lmao...mingster has made so many factual errors in the past two weeks I just figure 'afternoon ming' and move on is a polite way to treat the poor thing.
Kinda like how you over look that 'not quite right' kid down the block when they have tourettes syndrome. Not their fault.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
#39. To: Badeye, go65, Fred Mertz, Thunderbird, Biff Tannen, Skip Intro, lucysmom, mininggold (#38)
Is this you commenting on the subject of the thread again, Boofer?
Or are you simply underscoring how witless you are...again?
Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]
#40. To: Murron (#36)
I'll get a few shots here, maybe even a few of me too..lol, and post,[?] of [?] the vast pasture land and horses here. It starts at the end of my front yard and goes all around us,[cs] there are 3 barns and several outbuilding[sic],[period]
You'd better ask the neighbors if they mind you taking pics of their property...
maybe even a few of me too..lol...and horses here
Aren't you being redundant?
Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]
#41. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#35)
I had that same problem after I visited Congress last year . . .
LMAO.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#42. To: Capitalist Eric (#27)
I'll see your bet, and raise you, to:I'll bet you're a stupid b!tch.
D'oh! I win!
Oh shit...okay, this broke me up....
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
#43. To: Murron (#36)
I'm glad you're happy...
When I visit my folks, it always amazes me how quiet it is...
I live in a suburb now. My wife and kids are usually splashing in the pool or hot-tub, and I like working on old cars, so I have a 3-car garage, with a small fridge full of beer, and a loud stereo. I enjoy the process of building something... but once it's done, I usually sell it, and start something else, simply because the finished product bores me.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#44. To: Capitalist Eric (#43) (Edited)
Wow...you're so...so...Randian
Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]
#45. To: war (#37)
You were the stinky kid, Junior?!?
Probably why he opted for the mail-order bride from Russia.
#46. To: Badeye (#42)
Oh shit...okay, this broke me up....
Who could tell?
Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]
#47. To: Capitalist Eric, sneakypete (#43)
In addition to Russian wimmens you and petey have a similar interest in working on old cars - so I'll ping him to your reply.
#48. To: Fred Mertz (#47)
Oh, goody.... Alzheimer Fred joins the party....
In addition to Russian wimmens...
Forgot to take your meds again, eh?
Better double-up.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#49. To: Capitalist Eric (#48) (Edited)
Rare form today CE....lmao
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
#50. To: Badeye (#49)
I'll bet you laugh all the time when your hamsters spins his wheel. (chuckle)
#51. To: Fred Mertz (#50)
afternoon fred....
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
#52. To: Skip Intro (#0)
Jon Huntsman, moderate, reasonable and therefore un-nominatable in the Republican Party,
Not much bias there,is there?
If only the Republican Party has a reasonable and moderate candidate like Jesse Jackson or Barry Soetoro,they would be set!
I'd almost be willing to bet this buffoon called Boy Jorge a "right-winger".
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#53. To: sneakypete (#52)
Not much bias there,is there?
Considering that it's an opinion piece, so what?
#54. To: Fred Mertz, Capitalist Eric (#47)
In addition to Russian wimmens you and petey have a similar interest in working on old cars - so I'll ping him to your reply.
Thanks,Fred. I just bought a 1937 International pickup in North Dakota and brought it home a couple of week ago. Runs and drives,and I even drove it up on the trailer. I'll be driving it as soon as I get the time to put new brake lines on it and rebuild the wheel and master cylinders.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
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