Do you know what a "lector" does? "Lector" is Latinate for "reader". This is the person who stands up and reads, from the Bible, the passages that are on the schedule: an Old Testament passage and one of the Epistles, usually of Paul, The choir sings the Psalm, usually, and the Priest or Deacon reads the Gospel, usually.

So, what is the article bellyaching about? That WOMEN (gasp!) read the Bible in Mass. Heavens forfend! This is not "the way it was done" for 1400 years or so, so therefore it's "wrong".

Really?

That is tradition-mongering at its worst, the very thing that Protestants are always (sometimes rightly) screaming their heads off about.

So, is there something WRONG, in the eyes of God, with WOMEN reading the Bible?

If you say "Yes" to that, (1) Why do you believe that? and (2) How can you POSSIBLY really believe it?

Obviously there is nothing wrong with a woman reading the Bible. And obviously it has nothing at all to do with God, let alone sexuality.

Well, first, there aren't so many clergymembers left anymore.

And second, for 1000 years the Bible was in Latin, that only the educated clergy could read, so nobody COULD help them (and the people, hearing it, didn't understand what they were hearing anyway - the very thing that Protestants bellyache about).

Arch-traditionalists are classic Pharisees, raising the traditions above decency, and even above God Himself.

If you're not a Catholic, why do you even CARE?

So, the Protestants won the point. But there are STILL people bellyaching about everything. It's read my WOMEN! (Gasp!). AND it's not even in LATIN! (Horror.) But if you bring the oldest Bibles, which are all in GREEK and read them, well, that's wrong too, because it's not LATIN.

Tradition-mongering nonsense. Idiots. People whose God is actually their traditions. Incense and robes (covering penises, mind you), THAT'S God!

Oh brother...

If you're not a Catholic, why do you even CARE?

The Sanctuary has been likened to the womb wherein divine life is confected and thus it is only appropriate for the male, paternal figure of the priest or clergy to enter therein during the liturgy, like a husband approaching his wife.

What a freak show.

Can't wait for God to cleanse the earth of this cult.

For them, it’s all about who they say Jesus was, as opposed to what Jesus said for us to do.

That is not true Vic.

what Jesus said for us to do

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Vic, are you born again? Born of the Spirit? This is what Jesus said for us to do.

Me: Vic, are you born again? Born of the Spirit?

Vic: Sure. Now can we speak of the other things he said to do?

The curt reply regarding your spiritual rebirth gives me pause, considering being made a new creation in Christ is the greatest moment in one's life.

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

And there are unmistakable evidences of being a new creature.

The first of which is a hunger for the milk and meat of God's Word.

as newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the Word, that ye may grow thereby, if so it be that ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

The part that concerns me is that you scarcely if ever include Scripture references in your discussions. You refer to Jesus or Paul, but you do not include the particular verses containing the precise words they said, which have brought you into agreement/disagreement with them. Rather, you will refer to Luther or some other human souce.

If you are indwelt by the Spirit, you will understand that the Word of God is the sword of the Spirit.

And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Unless, of course, the Word of God makes you uncomfortable. The sword of the Word is very sharp, and it will reveal all manner of things within our hearts. Our very thoughts and intentions. Unsaved people will drop a Bible like it's a hot rock...it burns and convicts them.

For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

So I'll leave you with this verse. Consider it well.

Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you fail to meet the test! 2 Corinthians 13:5 English Standard Version

Religion without love is dead.

"But speaking the truth in love..."

I want to discuss what Jesus actually said.

That is a conversation we are unable to have.

I want to discuss what Jesus actually said.

That is a conversation we are unable to have.

You cannot have a conversation about someone you do not know.

And nobody can talk about Jesus, read about him, listen to what he said, nope. You've got to "know" him first, through mystic communications with a spirit.

That's what you say. I don't find that a very sound way to come to understand anything. Sometimes I talk to God. But to learn about what Jesus said and did, I have to read the Bible, like anyone else. God doesn't tell me that. He could, of course but that's not how I have ever seen him work.

You've got to "know" him first, through mystic communications with a spirit.

But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us.

Does it upset you that you do not have God's Spirit to help you understand?

You can have God's Spirit. All you have to do is ask. But you have not asked God to live in you. You prefer to know God after the flesh. To talk about Him with fleshly words. But God is known spiritually, and spoken of with spiritual words.

Jeus said: "the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life".

Got it!