Mother, Air Force Vet Kidnapped, Sent to Rikers for Traveling in NY with Her Legal Texas Handgun

Source: Free Thought Project
Published: Nov 26, 2017
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2017-11-26 12:46:53 by Deckard
Views: 17897

Robinson had harmed no one, had not taken anyone’s property and was merely traveling peacefully in her car when she was kidnapped by police and thrown into Riker’s Island at the Rose M. Singer Center with violent armed robbers and murderers.

Robinson was driving from Texas to New York to bring her two children to spend some time with their father when she was arrested by the NYPD in the Bronx and charged with “265.03 FC (CRIM POSS WEAPON-2ND DEGREE C Felony)” for having her legally purchased and licensed handgun in her glovebox.

Robinson, who spent five years on active duty, had secret military clearances and also has her active and valid Texas License to Carry.

According to Federal law, an individual is not restricted from transporting legally acquired firearms across state lines for lawful purposes except those explicitly prohibited by federal law to include convicted felons; persons under indictment for felonies; adjudicated “mental defectives” or those who have been involuntarily committed to mental institutions; illegal drug users; illegal aliens and most non-immigrant aliens; dishonorably discharged veterans; those who have renounced their U.S. citizenship; fugitives from justice; persons convicted of misdemeanor crimes of domestic violence; and persons subject to certain domestic violence restraining orders. Therefore, no federal permit is required (or available) for the interstate transportation of firearms.

Robinson does not fit any of the restricted person criteria as described above. However, having the gun in the glovebox is likely what the New York police have taken issue with.

A Funded Justice page, started by James Gressett, reads:

“Deanna Jo, loving mother of two adorable boys, Veteran, Activist and friend in liberty, was arrested in NYC on Nov 11 while traveling from Texas, when her self-defense handgun was discovered in her vehicle. Please help us free her from Rikers.

Two beautiful little boys are wondering where their mother is after the family of three traveled across the country from Texas to NYC so the children could spend time with their estranged father. Deanna Jo is a responsible mother and a veteran with military clearances and a Texas License to Carry. Concerned primarily with her children’s safety and posing no threat to any other person, Deanna Jo arrived at her destination, where her estranged husband took the children into his house then contacted police, who found her self-defense handgun in her vehicle.

No mother should be forced to leave behind her best means of self defense, yet the City of New York sends a clear message: “We do not care about your Constitutional rights or your personal safety, and the only people who have guns here are criminals.”

Now Deanna Jo sits in a cage at Rikers Island, stripped of her rights and incarcerated, and her children are missing her dearly. She needs to return to them so they can be with their mother. The city has basically told her that her life and the lives of her children are meaningless and that her right to protect them is trivial. 

We are a group of friends who want to see Deanna Jo reunited with her children as soon as possible.
This fund is to help us do that, plus assist with the legal battle to come.”

The goal set on the fundraising page is $25,000 and as of this writing has reached $6,400. The Free Thought Project spoke with Second Amendment and free speech activist Michael Picard who bailed Robinson out on Friday. He told us that Robinson is going to fight the charges all the way as there was no victim of her alleged crime.

“She served her country in the Air Force, and this is how New York serves her,” Picard told TFTP.

Unfortunately for Robinson, this is the second time she’s had an unjust experience with police. As TFTP reported at the time, Robinson was raided by police who were there to take her children over an alleged custody dispute. Robinson, who had a camera rolling at the time of the raid was seen pinned into a corner by Hunt County Deputy Josh Robinson who began beating the handcuffed 9-month pregnant woman as she screamed out in horror.

Deputy J. Robinson was subsequently no-billed by a Hunt County grand jury and has since been reinstated to full duty. Robinson was cleared of any wrongdoing and CPS later admitted there was no warrant.

If you’d like to call Bronx District Attorney Darcel D. Clark, and peacefully express to him that this woman has been through enough and doesn’t deserve to be locked in a cage for protecting herself and her children, you can so at this number: 718-590-2000. Also, if you’d like to donate to her legal fees, you can do so at her Funded Justice page.

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#73: tpaine    To: Gatlin, Y'ALL (#72)

Gatlin cannot post ANY proof that his statements below are true: ---

--- the founding fathers would not permit ownership by many law-abiding white people either unless they would swear allegiance to the government in order to have a gun.

-- the colonists had to swear allegiance to the government before they could own a gun. The government they were required to swear allegiance to was the alternative government of the colonies.

This swearing allegiance to the government was required by the Founding Fathers ---

Gatlin has failed to cite exactly where or when this requirement was enacted by the founding fathers, or by "the alternative government of the colonies"..

Typical of the crazy old coot...

tpaine posted on 2017-11-28 12:05:15   Reply   Private Reply


#74: sneakypete    To: Gatlin (#69)

I am however, vastly surprised you even knew how to spell Einstein’s name.

I have no doubt that many things surprise you on a daily basis.

sneakypete posted on 2017-11-28 17:53:35   Reply   Private Reply


#75: sneakypete    To: Gatlin (#70)

But you believe and support the lying shit Deckard posts from TFTP.

I do? I support Deckard when he posts something I agree with,and don't support him when he posts stuff I don't agree with. Deal with it.

What makes one lie different from another lie for you?

Now you are confusing me with you. A lie is a lie,period.

Could it be that you display bias when you gather and remember information selectively? Hmmm …

Duhhhhh! Yes,I AM biased,because unlike you,*I* make up my own mind about what is right and what is wrong. I don't need party hacks to tell me what to think.

sneakypete posted on 2017-11-28 17:59:14   Reply   Private Reply


#76: sneakypete    To: Gatlin (#71)

One of the biggest lies ever told by any Founding Father was written into the Declaration Of Independence.

It was …

“All men are created equal”

"In the eyes of the law" is unspoken,but assumed by everyone with a double-digit IQ.

It doesn't speak well for you that this has to be pointed out.

sneakypete posted on 2017-11-28 18:01:21   Reply   Private Reply


#77: sneakypete    To: Gatlin (#72)

My point STILL is:

Right at the top of your head.

sneakypete posted on 2017-11-28 18:02:35   Reply   Private Reply


#78: CZ82    To: sneakypete (#77)

Right at the top of your head.

CZ82 posted on 2017-11-28 19:41:16   Reply   Private Reply


#79: GrandIsland    To: Deckard (#0)

1) Kidnapped

2) According to Federal law

1) HAAAAAAA, YELLA BULLSHIT

2). States rights supersede, federal, pickle smootch. STFU.

GrandIsland posted on 2017-11-28 23:55:50   Reply   Private Reply


#80: Gatlin    To: sneakypete (#77)

My point STILL is:

Right at the top of your head.

That was an adorable quip but your intend satirical witticism crossed the line to become snarky and backfire to prompt me to show that it was the Founding Fathers who indeed had pointed heads.

I will never let get away by trying to be a smart ass and completely ignore irrefutable historical truth….although you may continue to show you are an ignorant ass when failing in any argument against any gun control by saying that it violates the Second Amendment.

Such a claim is extremely hard to square with the history under our nation’s Founding Fathers where all of the colonies under the Founding Fathers [except of course the Quaker-dominated Pennsylvania which blocked the creation of a militia] mandated a requirement that each of the colonies specifically keep track of ALL privately owned weapons.

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 00:05:08   Reply   Private Reply


#81: Gatlin    To: sneakypete (#76)

One of the biggest lies ever told by any Founding Father was written into the Declaration Of Independence.
It was …
“All men are created equal”

"In the eyes of the law" is unspoken,but assumed by everyone with a double-digit IQ.
It doesn't speak well for you that this has to be pointed out.

More importantly, It doesn’t bode well for you to try to cover up TRUTH by attempting to cloak “all men are created equal” and hide one of the biggest lies ever told by a Founding Father who was a SLAVE ONWER…a lie written into the Declaration Of Independence.

“All men are created equal” was still a DAMNED LIE told by Thomas Jefferson regardless of any way you might TRY to SPIN it and MASK the truth.

If Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers truly believed that all men are created equal, then they should not have owned slaves or all should have become slaves….that would have made all men equal.

Oh yea, “in the eyes of the law”….of course!!!

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 00:26:11   Reply   Private Reply


#82: Gatlin    To: sneakypete (#75)

But you believe and support the lying shit Deckard posts from TFTP

I do? I support Deckard when he posts something I agree with,and don't support him when he posts stuff I don't agree with.

That’s fair.
Deal with it.
Oh, I definitely do….and I will continue to.
What makes one lie different from another lie for you?

Now you are confusing me with you. A lie is a lie,period.

No confusion, that is exactly what I was emphasizing: A lie is a lie, period.
Could it be that you display bias when you gather and remember information selectively? Hmmm …

Duhhhhh! Yes,I AM biased …

Just like “a like is a lie, period” - conversely - “truth is the truth, period.”

I greatly appreciate your truthfulness here….thank you for that.

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 00:40:02   Reply   Private Reply


#83: Gatlin    To: sneakypete (#74)

I am however, vastly surprised you even knew how to spell Einstein’s name.

I have no doubt that many things surprise you on a daily basis.

Yea, you are absolutely right, Pete….many things do surprise me on a daily basis.

I daily find that life is so full of unpredictable beauty and packed full of strange surprises.

Sometimes the beauty is almost too much for me to handle.

Do you know that feeling, Pete?

Do you know when something is just too beautiful, Pete?

Have you ever experienced a wonderful daily surprise that changed your for the better, Pete?

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 00:53:22   Reply   Private Reply


#84: Gatlin    To: sneakypete (#83)

Moving along to continue educating you…

While the American Revolution was great, it however did not sweep away the English common law….most now independent colonies still followed the English common law as it had been interpreted in the colonies prior to independence which included the ban on traveling armed in populated areas

Shocking !!!

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 01:08:49   Reply   Private Reply


#85: Gatlin    To: sneakypete (#84)

The Founding Fathers insured that the American colonies continued a variety of gun restrictions that evolved under English Common Law. Armed travel was limited to a few well-defined occasions such as assisting justices of the peace and constables. Members of the upper classes also had a limited exception to travel with arms. Concealable weapons such as handguns were subject to even more stringent restrictions.

SInce the Founding Fathers and the now independent colonies elected to continue following most English common law….thusly, there was no general right for individuals armed travel when the Second Amendment was adopted and most certainly no right to travel with concealed weapons.Talk about gun control.

Yep, the colonies had it really bad under the Founding Fathers. The traditional English restrictions on traveling armed persisted with one important change. American law recognized an exception to this prohibition for individuals who had a good cause to fear an imminent threat. Nonetheless, by the end of the century, prohibiting public carry was the legal norm, not the exception.

Gasp !!!

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 01:15:02   Reply   Private Reply


#86: Gatlin    To: sneakypete (#85)

You can demonize government power for gun control today all you want to and I will join with you at all times for that, but I will never let you ignorantly portray the times under the Founding Fathers were the best for gun ownership and freedom to carry.

For in 1786, Boston acted on the legal principle established by the Founding Fathers in that it prohibited the storage of a loaded firearm in any domestic dwelling in the city.

How ‘bout them apples, Pete. It would surely frost your ass today, if you had to obey the mandate set that the guns in your house had to be kept unloaded.

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 01:19:18   Reply   Private Reply


#87: Gatlin    To: sneakypete (#86)

In addressing Second Amendment fanatics….I mean those die-hard fanatics uneducated on the Second Amendment….I will continue to point out that the:
The Founding Fathers engaged in large-scale disarmament of the civilian populating during the American Revolution. The right to bear arms was conditional on swearing a loyalty oath to the government. Individuals who refused to swear such an oath were disarmed.
The notion that the Second Amendment was understood to protect a right to take up arms against the government is absurd. Indeed, the Constitution itself defines such an act as treason.

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 01:37:08   Reply   Private Reply


#88: sneakypete    To: Gatlin (#81)

More importantly, It doesn’t bode well for you to try to cover up TRUTH by attempting to cloak “all men are created equal” and hide one of the biggest lies ever told by a Founding Father who was a SLAVE ONWER…a lie written into the Declaration Of Independence.

You really have obtained a previously undiscovered level of "dumb ass",ain't ya?

sneakypete posted on 2017-11-29 10:06:01   Reply   Private Reply


#89: sneakypete    To: Gatlin (#84)

While the American Revolution was great, it however did not sweep away the English common law….most now independent colonies still followed the English common law as it had been interpreted in the colonies prior to independence which included the ban on traveling armed in populated areas

BullBush!

Complete and total.

sneakypete posted on 2017-11-29 10:07:57   Reply   Private Reply


#90: Deckard    To: Gatlin, sneakypete (#86)

You can demonize government power for gun control today all you want to and I will join with you at all times for that,

Gatlin: "I can say that I have never found any reason not to support any law that the federal government has enacted so far in my life."

Deckard posted on 2017-11-29 10:13:58   Reply   Private Reply


#91: Gatlin    To: Deckard (#90)

You can demonize government power for gun control today all you want to and I will join with you at all times for that,

Gatlin: "I can say that I have never found any reason not to support any law that the federal government has enacted so far in my life."

Gatlin also said: “… that I can recall at this moment.”

But you now choose to conveniently ignore and leave that qualifier out so you can present a BIASED statement portraying a false conclusion….as you and your asshole God TFTP always do.

Everything is always FALSE with you bias-driven assholes!

***snicker***

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 11:26:21   Reply   Private Reply


#92: Deckard    To: Gatlin (#91)

Gatlin also said: “… that I can recall at this moment.”

Well...you've had several thousands of "moments" to reflect on which laws you do not support.

I gave you 4 in the original post that you could very well have expressed your opposition to.

Abortion, gay marriage, the assault weapons ban in 1994, NSA spying on American citizens. Doesn't matter to you - the State is your god.

Not a peep from the head canary as of yet.

Deckard posted on 2017-11-29 12:30:20   Reply   Private Reply


#93: Deckard    To: GrandIsland (#52)

That's called ANARCHY.

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Deckard posted on 2017-11-29 12:35:36   Reply   Private Reply


#94: Deckard    To: Gatlin (#87)

The notion that the Second Amendment was understood to protect a right to take up arms against the government is absurd.

Perhaps - however The Declaration of Independence would indicate that "to everything there's a season".

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

If the signers of the Declaration were alive today, it's a pretty safe bet they would agree that "it's time to shoot the bastards".

Deckard posted on 2017-11-29 12:53:28   Reply   Private Reply


#95: Gatlin    To: Deckard (#94)

If the signers of the Declaration were alive today, it's a pretty safe bet they would agree that "it's time to shoot the bastards".
Since it has been shown by me and it has been adequately documented that the signers of the Declaration were in favor of and enacted more stringent gun control laws that anything we have in existences today….it’s a pretty safe bet that you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about and your assumption is grossly absurd since it is well known that you as an extremely biased skeptic of current governmental authority have an uncontrollable blind hatred for the enforcement of laws.

I continue to be very much shocked at some of your disputing assumptions which are absolute sanctities only to you where they will forever remain quite improbable propositions delivered in the dishonorable heat of defiance and indignation.

All of this is to say that based on what the signers of the Declaration did during their day, you are a stupid fool to believe you can predict what the signers of the Declaration of Independence would do today.

Get frigging real….asshole. Quit trying to predict what dead people from long ago would do today and clean up your own act to properly conduct yourself in your own actions.

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 14:24:29   Reply   Private Reply


#96: Deckard    To: Gatlin (#95)

Since it has been shown by me and it has been adequately documented that the signers of the Declaration were in favor of and enacted more stringent gun control laws that anything we have in existences today…

You're delusional.

Deckard posted on 2017-11-29 14:27:11   Reply   Private Reply


#97: Gatlin    To: Deckard (#92)

Gatlin also said: “… that I can recall at this moment.”

Well...you've had several thousands of "moments" to reflect on which laws you do not support.

I have had several thousands of “moments” to reflect, but I am using those important moments to continue growingly enrich myself with successful swing trading in this wonderfully incomparable and unprecedented stock market with its upward movement action that our great President, The Right Honorable Donald J. Trump has caused for us.

I will however take a “moment” here and now to graciously say: Thank you, President Trump.

Not a peep from the head canary as of yet.

Right now I am quite busy with only another hour of trading and I need to make another couple of “thou”.

So, if it is a peep you want from your esteemed recognition of the almighty head canary ….then here is your peep:

THERE….take that peep, then go and continue to fuck yourself.

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 14:45:52   Reply   Private Reply


#98: Gatlin    To: Deckard (#96)

You're delusional.

You will no doubt be surprised to learn studies have shown that there are much higher instances of mental disorder in creative geniuses than in the general population.

And while it's impossible to be completely sure of a correct diagnosis of a historical figure, that hasn’t stopped researchers from making educated guesses.

I can provide you with a speculative look at the mental health of 11 of history's big thinkers when I have time between my stock market action.

Oh, not that I would ever try to compare myself to any one of them….although I will graciously permit you to freely do so.

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 14:58:47   Reply   Private Reply


#99: sneakypete    To: Deckard, Gatlin (#96)

You're delusional.

I believe the scientific term is "Bat Shit Crazy".

sneakypete posted on 2017-11-29 15:48:56   Reply   Private Reply


#100: sneakypete    To: Gatlin (#98)

You will no doubt be surprised to learn studies have shown that there are much higher instances of mental disorder in creative geniuses than in the general population.

Are you declaring yourself to be a "creative Genius"?

sneakypete posted on 2017-11-29 15:50:22   Reply   Private Reply


#101: Deckard    To: sneakypete (#100)

You will no doubt be surprised to learn studies have shown that there are much higher instances of mental disorder in creative geniuses than in the general population.

Are you declaring yourself to be a "creative Genius"?

Sure looks that way to me.

Deckard posted on 2017-11-29 16:51:17   Reply   Private Reply


#102: Deckard    To: Gatlin (#98)

I can provide you with a speculative look at the mental health of 11 of history's big thinkers...

Many of whom used marijuana and/or other mind-altering drugs.

Deckard posted on 2017-11-29 16:52:53   Reply   Private Reply


#103: Gatlin    To: Deckard (#102)

Many of whom used marijuana and/or other mind-altering drugs.
None of the 11 I am referring to ever did.

Of course, I don’t follow and associate with strung-out and doped-up riff raff like you continually do.

Speaking of riff raff, are you still hanging out with hondope?

I have him on bozo, so if you are staying in contact with him….say, “Hi”.

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 17:15:34   Reply   Private Reply


#104: Gatlin    To: Deckard (#101)

You will no doubt be surprised to learn studies have shown that there are much higher instances of mental disorder in creative geniuses than in the general population.

Are you declaring yourself to be a "creative Genius"?

Sure looks that way to me.

Modesty prevents me from answering your question …

I did assume that question applied to me.

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 17:25:22   Reply   Private Reply


#105: Gatlin    To: Deckard (#102)

Many of whom used marijuana and/or other mind-altering drugs.

I just remembered that Sigmund Freud used cocaine more than a personal indulgence; he highly regarded it as a veritable wonder drug.

It messed his mind up so much that today many refer to a fuck up as a “Freudian slip”.

They do so when they try to gloss over a parapraxis….an error in speech, memory, or physical action that is interpreted as occurring due to the interference of an unconscious subdued wish or internal train of thought.

You know the feeling of having many times committing a parapraxis….I have seen you do it often.

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 17:38:06   Reply   Private Reply


#106: Deckard    To: Gatlin (#105)

Successful Marijuana Users Who Prove The Person Matters More Than The Plant

William Shakespeare

Queen Victoria

James Monroe

George Bush

Carl Sagan

Louisa May Alcott

Francis Crick -(Francis Crick was of two scientists (the other was James Watson) who earned the Nobel Prize for discovering DNA in 1962.

Oliver Sacks

Stephen Ray Gould

Bill Gates

Kary Mullis (A 1993 Nobel Laureate in chemistry for his DNA research on the polymerase chain reaction)

Steve Jobs

Margaret Mead

Richard Feynman

Sarah Palin

Lincoln Chafee

John Hickenlooper (current Governor of Colorado)

Martha Stewart

Michael Bloomberg

Rush Limbaugh

Clarence Thomas

Deckard posted on 2017-11-29 19:43:24   Reply   Private Reply


#107: Hondo68    To: Deckard (#106)

You forgot Bill Clinton, used but didn't inhale!

Hondo68 posted on 2017-11-29 20:15:07   Reply   Private Reply


#108: Gatlin    To: Deckard (#106)

You wasted your time and went to all that trouble to post this shit to me.

“Sad.”

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 20:15:32   Reply   Private Reply


#109: Gatlin    To: Deckard (#106)

I did take time to look up one of the names on the list.
It was the last name on the list and I only happen to notice it as I made my post to you.
Here is what I learned about Clarence Thomas …
This is someone you have labeled as aSuccessful Marijuana User who admittedly “smoked marijuana several times” [meaning more than two but only a few times] in college and believes “it was a mistake and never repeated it.”
This admitted to mistake by Thomas who never repeated it again is such an inconsequential matter that it has absolutely no relevancy in any way to making Thomas a successful person because of the foolish youthful mistake of smoking a few joints.

Thanks for the good laugh …

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 21:04:12   Reply   Private Reply


#110: Gatlin    To: Deckard (#106)

Since you wanted to show shining examples of “greatly successful people” who smoked marijuana you forget the “biggest” poster boy for YOUR product of all times:

So, here he is …

LMAO @ …

New Book Claims Obama Is Smoking Weed Again… Is It True?

Gatlin posted on 2017-11-29 21:24:00   Reply   Private Reply


#111: sneakypete    To: Gatlin (#98)

I can provide you with a speculative look at the mental health of 11 of history's big thinkers

"Speculative"????

Isn't that another way of saying "wild-assed guess/brain fart"? Why not say you can give a speculative look at Bubbette! Clinton and Helen Thomas that proves they are super model material?

sneakypete posted on 2017-11-29 21:24:49   Reply   Private Reply


#112: tpaine    To: Gatlin, Y'ALL (#80)

--- all of the colonies under the Founding Fathers [except of course the Quaker-dominated Pennsylvania which blocked the creation of a militia] mandated a requirement that each of the colonies specifically keep track of ALL privately owned weapons.

Gatlins claim above, is an opinion, undocumented.

Gatlin is a liar, unable to post his proofs.

tpaine posted on 2017-11-29 22:35:06   Reply   Private Reply


#113: buckeroo    To: tpaine, tater (#112)

Sarge has always been a liar.

buckeroo posted on 2017-11-29 22:45:42   Reply   Private Reply


#114: tpaine    To: Gatlin, Y'ALL (#84)

While the American Revolution was great, it however did not sweep away the English common law….most now independent colonies still followed the English common law as it had been interpreted in the colonies prior to independence which included the ban on traveling armed in populated areas

I know of NO scotus opinion that addressed the issue above. It's constitutionality is very unlikely.

Once again, gatlin is parroting an opinion as a truth.

tpaine posted on 2017-11-29 22:45:49   Reply   Private Reply


#115: tpaine    To: Gatlin (#85)

---- The Founding Fathers insured that the American colonies continued a variety of gun restrictions that evolved under English Common Law. Armed travel was limited to a few well-defined occasions such as assisting justices of the peace and constables. Members of the upper classes also had a limited exception to travel with arms. Concealable weapons such as handguns were subject to even more stringent restrictions.

SInce the Founding Fathers and the now independent colonies elected to continue following most English common law….thusly, there was no general right for individuals armed travel when the Second Amendment was adopted and most certainly no right to travel with concealed weapons.Talk about gun control.

Yep, the colonies had it really bad under the Founding Fathers. The traditional English restrictions on traveling armed persisted with one important change. American law recognized an exception to this prohibition for individuals who had a good cause to fear an imminent threat. Nonetheless, by the end of the century, prohibiting public carry was the legal norm, not the exception.

It appears that gatlin is reposting the opinions of who? ---- Sounds to me like it could from a notorious socialistic 'history of the USA' by a guy called Howard? Zinn?

In any case, consider the source, LF's most notorious phony..

tpaine posted on 2017-11-29 23:00:36   Reply   Private Reply


#116: tpaine    To: Gatlin (#86)

--- in 1786, Boston acted on the legal principle established by the Founding Fathers in that it prohibited the storage of a loaded firearm in any domestic dwelling in the city.

No such 'legal principle was established by the Founding Fathers'.

Unable to post the proofs, gatlin continues to post his anti-gun opinions, and outright lies.

tpaine posted on 2017-11-29 23:06:15   Reply   Private Reply


#117: tpaine    To: Gatlin, Y'ALL (#87)

The Founding Fathers engaged in large-scale disarmament of the civilian populating during the American Revolution. The right to bear arms was conditional on swearing a loyalty oath to the government. Individuals who refused to swear such an oath were disarmed.

Large scale? Bullshit.. Post your proofs.

More gatlin lies.. What is he trying to accomplish with this antigun tirade?

tpaine posted on 2017-11-29 23:11:02   Reply   Private Reply


#118: tpaine    To: Gatlin, Y'ALL (#95)

Since it has been shown by me and it has been adequately documented that the signers of the Declaration were in favor of and enacted more stringent gun control laws that anything we have in existences today ----

It has NOT been shown by you and it has NOT been adequately documented that the signers of the Declaration were in favor of and enacted more stringent gun control laws that anything we have in existence today..

Poor gatlin is completely delusional.. -- He's believing his own phony rhetoric.

tpaine posted on 2017-11-29 23:20:39   Reply   Private Reply


#119: Hondo68    To: Gatlin, Helter Skelter Lying, Charles Mansion, tater, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#83)

I daily find that life is so full of unpredictable beauty and packed full of strange surprises.

Sometimes the beauty is almost too much for me to handle.

Your idol Charles Mansion is DEAD, get over it!

Lying won't bring your soul mate back, so just stop.

Hondo68 posted on 2017-11-30 00:54:22   Reply   Private Reply


#120: sneakypete    To: buckeroo (#113)

Sarge has always been a liar.

I'm not so sure he knows it,though. I think he just believes anything that pops into his head.

sneakypete posted on 2017-11-30 22:54:33   Reply   Private Reply


#121: buckeroo    To: sneakypete, tater (#120)

He has a screw loose in the noggin' ... that is certain.

buckeroo posted on 2017-11-30 23:02:54   Reply   Private Reply


#122: tpaine    To: Gatlin is posting elsewhere again, --- while cowardly ignoring legitimate questions. (#118)

Gatlin, --- Since it has been shown by me and it has been adequately documented that the signers of the Declaration were in favor of and enacted more stringent gun control laws that anything we have in existences today ----

It has NOT been shown by you and it has NOT been adequately documented that the signers of the Declaration were in favor of and enacted more stringent gun control laws that anything we have in existence today..

Why are you such a coward?

tpaine posted on 2017-12-01 12:42:48   Reply   Private Reply