Gatlin cannot post ANY proof that his statements below are true: ---

--- the founding fathers would not permit ownership by many law-abiding white people either unless they would swear allegiance to the government in order to have a gun.

-- the colonists had to swear allegiance to the government before they could own a gun. The government they were required to swear allegiance to was the alternative government of the colonies.

This swearing allegiance to the government was required by the Founding Fathers ---

Gatlin has failed to cite exactly where or when this requirement was enacted by the founding fathers, or by "the alternative government of the colonies"..

Typical of the crazy old coot...

I am however, vastly surprised you even knew how to spell Einstein’s name.

I have no doubt that many things surprise you on a daily basis.

But you believe and support the lying shit Deckard posts from TFTP.

I do? I support Deckard when he posts something I agree with,and don't support him when he posts stuff I don't agree with. Deal with it.

What makes one lie different from another lie for you?

Now you are confusing me with you. A lie is a lie,period.

Could it be that you display bias when you gather and remember information selectively? Hmmm …

Duhhhhh! Yes,I AM biased,because unlike you,*I* make up my own mind about what is right and what is wrong. I don't need party hacks to tell me what to think.

One of the biggest lies ever told by any Founding Father was written into the Declaration Of Independence.

It was …

“All men are created equal”

"In the eyes of the law" is unspoken,but assumed by everyone with a double-digit IQ.

It doesn't speak well for you that this has to be pointed out.

My point STILL is:

Right at the top of your head.

Right at the top of your head.

1) Kidnapped

2) According to Federal law

1) HAAAAAAA, YELLA BULLSHIT

2). States rights supersede, federal, pickle smootch. STFU.

My point STILL is:

Right at the top of your head.

That was an adorable quip but your intend satirical witticism crossed the line to become snarky and backfire to prompt me to show that it was the Founding Fathers who indeed had pointed heads.

I will never let get away by trying to be a smart ass and completely ignore irrefutable historical truth….although you may continue to show you are an ignorant ass when failing in any argument against any gun control by saying that it violates the Second Amendment.

Such a claim is extremely hard to square with the history under our nation’s Founding Fathers where all of the colonies under the Founding Fathers [except of course the Quaker-dominated Pennsylvania which blocked the creation of a militia] mandated a requirement that each of the colonies specifically keep track of ALL privately owned weapons.

One of the biggest lies ever told by any Founding Father was written into the Declaration Of Independence.
It was …
“All men are created equal”

"In the eyes of the law" is unspoken,but assumed by everyone with a double-digit IQ.
It doesn't speak well for you that this has to be pointed out.

“All men are created equal” was still a DAMNED LIE told by Thomas Jefferson regardless of any way you might TRY to SPIN it and MASK the truth.

If Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers truly believed that all men are created equal, then they should not have owned slaves or all should have become slaves….that would have made all men equal.

Oh yea, “in the eyes of the law”….of course!!!

But you believe and support the lying shit Deckard posts from TFTP

I do? I support Deckard when he posts something I agree with,and don't support him when he posts stuff I don't agree with.

Deal with it.

What makes one lie different from another lie for you?

Now you are confusing me with you. A lie is a lie,period.

Could it be that you display bias when you gather and remember information selectively? Hmmm …

Duhhhhh! Yes,I AM biased …

I greatly appreciate your truthfulness here….thank you for that.

I am however, vastly surprised you even knew how to spell Einstein’s name.

I have no doubt that many things surprise you on a daily basis.

Yea, you are absolutely right, Pete….many things do surprise me on a daily basis.

I daily find that life is so full of unpredictable beauty and packed full of strange surprises.

Sometimes the beauty is almost too much for me to handle.

Do you know that feeling, Pete?

Do you know when something is just too beautiful, Pete?

Have you ever experienced a wonderful daily surprise that changed your for the better, Pete?

While the American Revolution was great, it however did not sweep away the English common law….most now independent colonies still followed the English common law as it had been interpreted in the colonies prior to independence which included the ban on traveling armed in populated areas

Shocking !!!

SInce the Founding Fathers and the now independent colonies elected to continue following most English common law….thusly, there was no general right for individuals armed travel when the Second Amendment was adopted and most certainly no right to travel with concealed weapons.Talk about gun control.

Yep, the colonies had it really bad under the Founding Fathers. The traditional English restrictions on traveling armed persisted with one important change. American law recognized an exception to this prohibition for individuals who had a good cause to fear an imminent threat. Nonetheless, by the end of the century, prohibiting public carry was the legal norm, not the exception.

Gasp !!!

For in 1786, Boston acted on the legal principle established by the Founding Fathers in that it prohibited the storage of a loaded firearm in any domestic dwelling in the city.

How ‘bout them apples, Pete. It would surely frost your ass today, if you had to obey the mandate set that the guns in your house had to be kept unloaded.

The Founding Fathers engaged in large-scale disarmament of the civilian populating during the American Revolution. The right to bear arms was conditional on swearing a loyalty oath to the government. Individuals who refused to swear such an oath were disarmed.

More importantly, It doesn’t bode well for you to try to cover up TRUTH by attempting to cloak “all men are created equal” and hide one of the biggest lies ever told by a Founding Father who was a SLAVE ONWER…a lie written into the Declaration Of Independence.

You really have obtained a previously undiscovered level of "dumb ass",ain't ya?

While the American Revolution was great, it however did not sweep away the English common law….most now independent colonies still followed the English common law as it had been interpreted in the colonies prior to independence which included the ban on traveling armed in populated areas

BullBush!

Complete and total.

You can demonize government power for gun control today all you want to and I will join with you at all times for that,

Gatlin: "I can say that I have never found any reason not to support any law that the federal government has enacted so far in my life."

You can demonize government power for gun control today all you want to and I will join with you at all times for that,

Gatlin: "I can say that I have never found any reason not to support any law that the federal government has enacted so far in my life."

But you now choose to conveniently ignore and leave that qualifier out so you can present a BIASED statement portraying a false conclusion….as you and your asshole God TFTP always do.

Everything is always FALSE with you bias-driven assholes!

***snicker***

Gatlin also said: “… that I can recall at this moment.”

Well...you've had several thousands of "moments" to reflect on which laws you do not support.

I gave you 4 in the original post that you could very well have expressed your opposition to.

Abortion, gay marriage, the assault weapons ban in 1994, NSA spying on American citizens. Doesn't matter to you - the State is your god.

Not a peep from the head canary as of yet.

That's called ANARCHY.

The notion that the Second Amendment was understood to protect a right to take up arms against the government is absurd.

Perhaps - however The Declaration of Independence would indicate that "to everything there's a season".

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

If the signers of the Declaration were alive today, it's a pretty safe bet they would agree that "it's time to shoot the bastards".

If the signers of the Declaration were alive today, it's a pretty safe bet they would agree that "it's time to shoot the bastards".

I continue to be very much shocked at some of your disputing assumptions which are absolute sanctities only to you where they will forever remain quite improbable propositions delivered in the dishonorable heat of defiance and indignation.

All of this is to say that based on what the signers of the Declaration did during their day, you are a stupid fool to believe you can predict what the signers of the Declaration of Independence would do today.

Get frigging real….asshole. Quit trying to predict what dead people from long ago would do today and clean up your own act to properly conduct yourself in your own actions.

Since it has been shown by me and it has been adequately documented that the signers of the Declaration were in favor of and enacted more stringent gun control laws that anything we have in existences today…

You're delusional.

Gatlin also said: “… that I can recall at this moment.”

Well...you've had several thousands of "moments" to reflect on which laws you do not support.

I have had several thousands of “moments” to reflect, but I am using those important moments to continue growingly enrich myself with successful swing trading in this wonderfully incomparable and unprecedented stock market with its upward movement action that our great President, The Right Honorable Donald J. Trump has caused for us.

I will however take a “moment” here and now to graciously say: Thank you, President Trump.

Not a peep from the head canary as of yet.

Right now I am quite busy with only another hour of trading and I need to make another couple of “thou”.

So, if it is a peep you want from your esteemed recognition of the almighty head canary ….then here is your peep:

THERE….take that peep, then go and continue to fuck yourself.

You're delusional.

You will no doubt be surprised to learn studies have shown that there are much higher instances of mental disorder in creative geniuses than in the general population.

And while it's impossible to be completely sure of a correct diagnosis of a historical figure, that hasn’t stopped researchers from making educated guesses.

I can provide you with a speculative look at the mental health of 11 of history's big thinkers when I have time between my stock market action.

Oh, not that I would ever try to compare myself to any one of them….although I will graciously permit you to freely do so.

You're delusional.

I believe the scientific term is "Bat Shit Crazy".

You will no doubt be surprised to learn studies have shown that there are much higher instances of mental disorder in creative geniuses than in the general population.

Are you declaring yourself to be a "creative Genius"?

You will no doubt be surprised to learn studies have shown that there are much higher instances of mental disorder in creative geniuses than in the general population.

Are you declaring yourself to be a "creative Genius"?

Sure looks that way to me.

I can provide you with a speculative look at the mental health of 11 of history's big thinkers...

Many of whom used marijuana and/or other mind-altering drugs.

Many of whom used marijuana and/or other mind-altering drugs.

Of course, I don’t follow and associate with strung-out and doped-up riff raff like you continually do.

Speaking of riff raff, are you still hanging out with hondope?

I have him on bozo, so if you are staying in contact with him….say, “Hi”.

You will no doubt be surprised to learn studies have shown that there are much higher instances of mental disorder in creative geniuses than in the general population.

Are you declaring yourself to be a "creative Genius"?

Sure looks that way to me.

Modesty prevents me from answering your question …

I did assume that question applied to me.

Many of whom used marijuana and/or other mind-altering drugs.

I just remembered that Sigmund Freud used cocaine more than a personal indulgence; he highly regarded it as a veritable wonder drug.

It messed his mind up so much that today many refer to a fuck up as a “Freudian slip”.

They do so when they try to gloss over a parapraxis….an error in speech, memory, or physical action that is interpreted as occurring due to the interference of an unconscious subdued wish or internal train of thought.

You know the feeling of having many times committing a parapraxis….I have seen you do it often.

Successful Marijuana Users Who Prove The Person Matters More Than The Plant

William Shakespeare

Queen Victoria

James Monroe

George Bush

Carl Sagan

Louisa May Alcott

Francis Crick -(Francis Crick was of two scientists (the other was James Watson) who earned the Nobel Prize for discovering DNA in 1962.

Oliver Sacks

Stephen Ray Gould

Bill Gates

Kary Mullis (A 1993 Nobel Laureate in chemistry for his DNA research on the polymerase chain reaction)

Steve Jobs

Margaret Mead

Richard Feynman

Sarah Palin

Lincoln Chafee

John Hickenlooper (current Governor of Colorado)

Martha Stewart

Michael Bloomberg

Rush Limbaugh

Clarence Thomas

“Sad.”

This is someone you have labeled as aSuccessful Marijuana User who admittedly “smoked marijuana several times” [meaning more than two but only a few times] in college and believes “it was a mistake and never repeated it.”

Thanks for the good laugh …

So, here he is …

LMAO @ …

New Book Claims Obama Is Smoking Weed Again… Is It True?

I can provide you with a speculative look at the mental health of 11 of history's big thinkers

"Speculative"????

Isn't that another way of saying "wild-assed guess/brain fart"? Why not say you can give a speculative look at Bubbette! Clinton and Helen Thomas that proves they are super model material?

--- all of the colonies under the Founding Fathers [except of course the Quaker-dominated Pennsylvania which blocked the creation of a militia] mandated a requirement that each of the colonies specifically keep track of ALL privately owned weapons.

Gatlins claim above, is an opinion, undocumented.

Gatlin is a liar, unable to post his proofs.

While the American Revolution was great, it however did not sweep away the English common law….most now independent colonies still followed the English common law as it had been interpreted in the colonies prior to independence which included the ban on traveling armed in populated areas

I know of NO scotus opinion that addressed the issue above. It's constitutionality is very unlikely.

Once again, gatlin is parroting an opinion as a truth.

---- The Founding Fathers insured that the American colonies continued a variety of gun restrictions that evolved under English Common Law. Armed travel was limited to a few well-defined occasions such as assisting justices of the peace and constables. Members of the upper classes also had a limited exception to travel with arms. Concealable weapons such as handguns were subject to even more stringent restrictions.

SInce the Founding Fathers and the now independent colonies elected to continue following most English common law….thusly, there was no general right for individuals armed travel when the Second Amendment was adopted and most certainly no right to travel with concealed weapons.Talk about gun control.

Yep, the colonies had it really bad under the Founding Fathers. The traditional English restrictions on traveling armed persisted with one important change. American law recognized an exception to this prohibition for individuals who had a good cause to fear an imminent threat. Nonetheless, by the end of the century, prohibiting public carry was the legal norm, not the exception.

It appears that gatlin is reposting the opinions of who? ---- Sounds to me like it could from a notorious socialistic 'history of the USA' by a guy called Howard? Zinn?

In any case, consider the source, LF's most notorious phony..

--- in 1786, Boston acted on the legal principle established by the Founding Fathers in that it prohibited the storage of a loaded firearm in any domestic dwelling in the city.

No such 'legal principle was established by the Founding Fathers'.

Unable to post the proofs, gatlin continues to post his anti-gun opinions, and outright lies.

The Founding Fathers engaged in large-scale disarmament of the civilian populating during the American Revolution. The right to bear arms was conditional on swearing a loyalty oath to the government. Individuals who refused to swear such an oath were disarmed.

Large scale? Bullshit.. Post your proofs.

More gatlin lies.. What is he trying to accomplish with this antigun tirade?

Since it has been shown by me and it has been adequately documented that the signers of the Declaration were in favor of and enacted more stringent gun control laws that anything we have in existences today ----

It has NOT been shown by you and it has NOT been adequately documented that the signers of the Declaration were in favor of and enacted more stringent gun control laws that anything we have in existence today..

Poor gatlin is completely delusional.. -- He's believing his own phony rhetoric.

I daily find that life is so full of unpredictable beauty and packed full of strange surprises.

Sometimes the beauty is almost too much for me to handle.

Your idol Charles Mansion is DEAD, get over it!

Lying won't bring your soul mate back, so just stop.

Sarge has always been a liar.

I'm not so sure he knows it,though. I think he just believes anything that pops into his head.

Gatlin, --- Since it has been shown by me and it has been adequately documented that the signers of the Declaration were in favor of and enacted more stringent gun control laws that anything we have in existences today ----

It has NOT been shown by you and it has NOT been adequately documented that the signers of the Declaration were in favor of and enacted more stringent gun control laws that anything we have in existence today..

Why are you such a coward?