MW's baseball bat across the back windshield is merely also "free speech."

Exactly. But Deckard believes that free speech is so sacred that it should be free from consequences. Burn a flag, no consequence. Curse and spit at a cop and he can't do a thing.

HE has rights. You don't.

OK, --- we have a crazy shouting "NIGGER!!" to every black person, Or a GROUP of black people, as he goes down the street?

Hopefully someone calls 911, and the cops arrive before the crazy gets killed by the blacks. Whereupon, the crazy is put in jail for disturbing the peace.

Ooooh...."Disturbing the peace," eh? But "Eff Trump" and "Eff those who voted for him!" ISN'T??

And....and...But...but...but...."FREE SPEECH!" OH WAIT.

Please explain what happened to IT in your anecdotal case where the so-called "crazy" who again -- according to some -- is merely exercising his constitutional "Free Speech"??

So what's your opinion on shouting "NIGGER!!" to every black person? Or GROUPS of black people?

But Deckard believes that free speech is so sacred that it should be free from consequences.

Burn a flag, no consequence. Curse and spit at a cop and he can't do a thing.

Hear ya.

For over 5,000 years, insulting and dishonoring one's mother or wife would be cause for b*tch-slapping and knuckle-sandwiching at the least, challenge to a dual/fight, OR worse. In the "old neighborhood" -- not long ago, EVERYONE would have understood the common sense unspoken rules and laws of society.

What is being defended in this case of Donald Trump as well as his voters told to "Eff" themselves, is well over the line of decency and crystal clear incitement to violence. It reeks of Antifa/Alinsky tactics. In a nutshell, we are witnessing a hostile and clear case of Social Anarchy. But only because Trump is President. The MSM has been encoraging the overt public hostility.

Now most of us realize that were this language targeting 0bama, the cacophony of howls and outrage from the Left and MSM would be deafening. The perp would likely be arrested.

This irrational support of free speech under ALL circumstances is a very new concept. However, it is VERY selective, based on political correctness and those who control the culture's power structure.

There seems to be one set of rules for Democrats, Progressives, and Homos/Queers, and one for Republicans, Conservatives, and Christians.

The inconsistencies and bias from Democrats, the Judiciary, AND even the Supreme Court in their enforcement of Constitutional Law is conspicuously one-sided. It seems Social Justice crusaders get mulligans, whereas Conservatives are disproportionately penalized.

What is being defended in this case of Donald Trump as well as his voters told to "Eff" themselves, is well over the line of decency and crystal clear incitement to violence. It reeks of Antifa/Alinsky tactics.

Oh the Irony!

How are you and paulsen any different than Antifa?

That nut is probably a Leftist-Antifa agitprop asset.

The image was from a fictional movie!

If he's assaulted or killed, those responsible face a jury trial, and will no doubt be acquitted, or given reduced sentences/paroled because of the 'fighting words' doctrine.

Is there some problem with that?

There IS a problem with normalizing this anti-social anarchy crap and juvenile sociopathic behavior encouraged under the guise of "Free Speech."

What we're witnessing is the over-ripened rotten fruit of over a year's worth of Leftist/Anti-MAGA propaganda and indoctrination -- a psyop designed to normalize hostility and violence toward Donald Trump and those who voted for him.

Ooooh...."Disturbing the peace," eh? But "Eff Trump" and "Eff those who voted for him!" ISN'T??

And....and...But...but...but...."FREE SPEECH!" OH WAIT.

Please explain what happened to IT in your anecdotal case where the so-called "crazy" who again -- according to some -- is merely exercising his constitutional "Free Speech"??

Of course the sign saying "Fuck Trump" should be considered as disturbing the peace..

As to what happened to the crazy in my post, try reading it again.. --- He either gets jailed, --- or is assaulted, even killed.

What more could you want?

OK, --- we have a crazy shouting "NIGGER!!" to every black person, Or a GROUP of black people, as he goes down the street?

Hopefully someone calls 911, and the cops arrive before the crazy gets killed by the blacks. Whereupon, the crazy is put in jail for disturbing the peace.

If he's assaulted or killed, those responsible face a jury trial, and will no doubt be acquitted, or given reduced sentences/paroled because of the 'fighting words' doctrine.

Is there some problem with that?

Now most of us realize that were this language targeting 0bama, the cacophony of howls and outrage from the Left and MSM would be deafening. The perp would likely be arrested.

Which only proves that Left is as much in favor of political censorship as the right.

The image was from a fictional movie!

Even if it is, it STILL works as agitprop tool of the Left designed to perpetuate a stereotype and bogeyman that simply does NOT exist. "Art" has been a political tool since the 1960s.

Of ALL people, you ought to get it as well as what's going on.

As to what happened to the crazy in my post, try reading it again.. --- He either gets jailed, --- or is assaulted, even killed.

What more could you want?

Yes, yes, I read it, Paine.

But you're missing the MUCH BIGGER PICTURE:

This Crusade, these revolutions all begin with this kind of "taking-one-for-the-team."

One turns into a half-dozen. Then into two-dozen. Then hundreds. And so forth.

Consider human nature. "Us vs. Them." BOTH sides.

See the imminent future now??

If he's assaulted or killed, those responsible face a jury trial, and will no doubt be acquitted, or given reduced sentences/paroled because of the 'fighting words' doctrine. Is there some problem with that?

There IS a problem with normalizing this anti-social anarchy crap and juvenile sociopathic behavior encouraged under the guise of "Free Speech."

What we're witnessing is the over-ripened rotten fruit of over a year's worth of Leftist/Anti-MAGA propaganda and indoctrination -- a psyop designed to normalize hostility and violence toward Donald Trump and those who voted for him.

How weird, you've read my post, and apparently understood it, but still feel the need to lecture me about leftist propaganda?

I'm not your enemy. Trying to get you to realize that some here (notably misterwhite), is a propagandist, isn't getting through..

Am I wasting my time?

That nut is probably a Leftist-Antifa agitprop asset.

Nah. I bet that's Bruce Willis in the 1995 movie Die Hard with a Vengeance.

I'm not your enemy.... Am I wasting my time?

Firstly, I don't believe you or 95% of the posters here are my enemy. I think that's a weird assertion or presumption to make, but hey, it's a nameless, faceless media where intent and subtleties are often misconstrued and misunderstood. What else is new?

Beyond that, I'm not "lecturing," I'm clarifying. I apparently should refrain from giving my overview and opinion on the social dynamics and psyops by the PTB (Which does appear for be a waste of time -- a YUGE one. You're right. My bad.)

Yes, yes, I read it, Paine.

But you're missing the MUCH BIGGER PICTURE:

This Crusade, these revolutions all begin with this kind of "taking-one-for-the-team."

One turns into a half-dozen. Then into two-dozen. Then hundreds. And so forth.

Consider human nature. "Us vs. Them." BOTH sides.

See the imminent future now??

Now you've posted I'm "missing the MUCH BIGGER PICTURE", --- and implied that what? ---- I'm "taking-one-for-the-team."?

What in hell is your problem with me? -- That I can't "See the imminent future now??"

I've probably posted just as many articles as you, about how the socialists are trying to ruin our republic.

Get off your soapbox when you reply to me...

You're right. My bad.)

Thank you...

Now the TV appearances, book, and movie deals start.

She's a dead ringer for Honey Boo Boo's mom!

What IF, a Vehicle is

I honestly don't care what people think or say about me. I'd probably laugh.

Lack of think skin... is a weakness. I loath weak people.

I honestly don't care what people think or say about me

You have consistently lied about yourself on this chit-chat channel.

The thing that Gatlin is laughing about is that she was arrested on a felony warrant charge.

Fort Bend County Sheriff’s Office records show Karen Fonseca was arrested about 2 p.m. Thursday
on an outstanding fraud warrant issued in August by the Rosenberg Police Department.

The Mushot of Karen Fonseca.

It also proves that anti-Trumpers have never been known for displaying any degree of intelligence.

Pull her over and if she draws a gun, shoot her ass! Get the trash off the road.

What this proves is that this really has to be one dumb-ass woman calling so much attention to herself with an outstanding felony arrest warrant issued against her.

Great! Charge her with that.

They have no case against her for exercising her First Amendment rights.

Protected speech - if you can't help being triggered by a message you disagree with snowflake, then you're the one with the problem.

That MAY be protected speech,but I doubt it. There are still obscenity laws on the books in many places.

Regardless of it is is legal,illegal,or borderline,it IS a classless thing to do because that's not saying something in anger once and then leaving it alone,it is virtually shouting it at everyone who sees the truck.

Incendiary speech, speech that incites, AND vulgar, obscene speech IN PUBLIC is NOT "protected."

Thanks for defining it clearer than I did.

The Suprerme court has ruled that political statements are protected speech.

Is that a political statement,or a call for sexual assault?

Can you begin to imagine the screams of outrage if someone had "Fuck Hillary!" in the rear window of their truck? Whymen libbers heads would be exploding.

In fact, you can NOT even shout, "NIGGER!!" in public either, can you?? Because...IT'S CONSIDERED, "Hate Speech."

You can however shout "Honkey" or "Cracka".

Some people are more equal than others.

What in hell is your problem with me? -- That I can't "See the imminent future now??"

I think you're waaay overreacting. Yes, really.

I've probably posted just as many articles as you, about how the socialists are trying to ruin our republic. Get off your soapbox when you reply to me...

We can either have a decent convo and exchange opinions, or we can't. "Soapbox"?? Gimme a break.

Now the TV appearances, book, and movie deals start.

AND the arrest, past police record and exposed sordid abuse of her bull-dyke "wife," and MAYBE the Ellen appearance and hate-fest on the Liberal-Dem Late Nite Talk Show circuit.

I honestly don't care what people think or say about me. I'd probably laugh.

Lack of think skin... is a weakness. I loath weak people.

Yes, you'd laugh here.

In real life I'd bet your pension that it'd be a much different story.

IF you or especially your wife/family were targeted with these obscenities -- either via the signage OR from car-window, your reaction would be waaay more different.

UNLESS you're telling us that that at a traffic light or elsewhere that were some broad or guy to open a window and shout out, "EFF YOU, B*TCH!," that you're letting THAT go?

He should be made to put a "Fuck Hillary" sticker on his truck too, see how much grief he gets over that.

Exactly.

Imagine the kvetching, b*tching and moaning were THAT the case. OR, 0bama was targeting with the very same "EFF 0BAMA!" vehicle signage.

(btw, remember how those several folks who dug out 0bama's student loan data were summarily arrested?? When in positions of power, Dems abuse it, having a hyper-emotional hair-triggers when THEY are "insulted," investigated, busted, and ridiculed otherwise.)

What this proves is that this really has to be one dumb-ass woman calling so much attention to herself with an outstanding felony arrest warrant issued against her.

It also proves that anti-Trumpers have never been known for displaying any degree of intelligence.

On THIS issue we can agree.

(Still staunchly supporting the ACLU, btw? Because THEY are supporting this witch.)

Egad! This is one ugly, fat, old tattooed sow.

Pull her over and if she draws a gun, shoot her ass! Get the trash off the road.

THAT is basically the face (and azz) of the Democrat Party.

Ugly IN & OUT.

["one dumb-ass woman calling so much attention to herself with an outstanding felony arrest warrant issued against her."]

Great! Charge her with that.

They have no case against her for exercising her First Amendment rights.

What part of, public "incitement," obscenity/vulgarity/indecency/lewdness" laws don't you get?

The First Amendment does NOT protect any of it.

She should be charged for trying to encourage a sexual assault against the commander and chief.

Excellent!

Why can't the Bull-Dyke's proud and public display be construed as "Encouragement of sexual assault" as well as a "Hate Crime," Hate Speech," Incitement of "sexual assault," Incitement of Violence, and a few other legit charges?

That MAY be protected speech,but I doubt it. There are still obscenity laws on the books in many places.

Regardless of it is is legal,illegal,or borderline,it IS a classless thing to do because that's not saying something in anger once and then leaving it alone,it is virtually shouting it at everyone who sees the truck.

Well stated.

If all (including kids) are compelled to see it on public roads and stores, the vulgarities/obscenities are indeed forced upon them.

The Suprerme court has ruled that political statements are protected speech.

Is that a political statement,or a call for sexual assault?

Can you begin to imagine the screams of outrage if someone had "Fuck Hillary!" in the rear window of their truck? Whymen libbers heads would be exploding.

Exactly.

The double-standard and hypocrisy of the Left as well as Anarchists is again on display and exposed in this case.

What I've noticed from the Dem-Antifa-Anarchist Left is that LEADING the hate, hostility, and violence is Hillary's "The Resistance" -- comprised of malcontent Queers, Dykes, and Society's Misfits and Losers.

Gotta feeling the test case is only the beginning. They (and the Dems' GOPe-cousins ) are HOPING that this disgusting display becomes epidemic. Call it the "Kaepernick Phenomena."

In this seemingly single inconsequential gesture, the Dem-Antifa-Anarchists are in the process of challenging laws and standards of respect and behavior that have stood the constitutional test of time. Their long End Game is clearly Divide & Conquer, and creating legal and social chaos.

Antifa and Dems have always pushed the boundaries of "Fighting Words." They need their collective clocks cleaned. Backing them up AS ALWAYS is the ACLU and SPLC.

Antifa and Dems have always pushed the boundaries of "Fighting Words." They need their collective clocks cleaned. Backing them up AS ALWAYS is the ACLU and SPLC.

Don't forget the Constitution and the United States Supreme Court.

Funny you should mention Antifa - they are the biggest enemies of free speech in America.

In fact, you can NOT even shout, "NIGGER!!" in public either, can you?? Because...IT'S CONSIDERED, "Hate Speech."

You can however shout "Honkey" or "Cracka".

Some people are more equal than others.

Funny how THAT all works, ain't it?

Whitey is now targeted for open Hatred, Censorship," and Employment Restrictions at colleges and universities. With NO pushback. (What's THAT all about??)

This legal double standard of speech and deed (including 'Affirmative Action,' select 'Hate Speech/Hate Crime Laws' and unequal protections and license needs once and for all to go to the Supreme Court for remediation (OR be left to the States.)

Now the TV appearances, book, and movie deals start.

She's a dead ringer for Honey Boo Boo's mom!

I see Rosie O'Donnell playing her in the made for tv role.

Wonder how much she can bench press?

Don't forget the Constitution and the United States Supreme Court.

Well, the SCOTUS is a joke. Their respective hypocrisy, decisions based on international law, and political caving is making a mockery of justice AND the spirit of the USCON.

Funny you should mention Antifa - they are the biggest enemies of free speech in America.

Exactly. Oh, the irony.

You have consistently lied about yourself on this chit-chat channel.

Let's HOPE he has been lying,and he is really some bored 13 year old kid.

I highly doubt very much that the use of derogatory language against out President would be protected under the First Amendment as it actually falls under the fighting words doctrine.

See here https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383 and here constitution.findlaw.com/amendment1/annotation18.htm

EXCELLENT FIND!

Fort Bend County Sheriff’s Office records show Karen Fonseca was arrested about 2 p.m. Thursday on an outstanding fraud warrant issued in August by the Rosenberg Police Department.

MOST people with outstanding warrants out on them are smart enough to not try to draw attention to themselves. The good news for her is she looks like a woman that will fit right in with a jail or prison population.

What this proves is that this really has to be one dumb-ass woman calling so much attention to herself with an outstanding felony arrest warrant issued against her.

Great! Charge her with that.

Correct me if I'm wrong,but isn't that WHY they arrested her?

The whole window sticker thing is an obscenity charge,not a felony.