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Bush Wars Title: America Leaves Iraq A Toxic Legacy Of Dumped Hazardous Materials Oliver August, Baghdad American troops going home from Iraq after seven painful years are leaving behind a legacy that is literally toxic. An investigation by The Times in five Iraqi provinces has found that hazardous material from US bases is being dumped locally rather than sent back to America, in clear breach of Pentagon rules. North and west of Baghdad, engine oil is leaking from 55-gallon drums into dusty ground, open acid canisters sit within easy reach of children, and discarded batteries lie close to irrigated farmland. A 2009 Pentagon document shown to The Times by a private contractor working with US soldiers mentions “an estimated 11 million pounds [5,000 tonnes] of hazardous waste” produced by American troops. But even this figure appears to be only a partial estimate. BrigadierGeneral Kendall Cox, who is responsible for engineering and infrastructure in Iraq, told The Times yesterday that he was in the process of disposing of 14,500 tonnes of oil and soil contaminated with oil. “This has accumulated over seven years,” he said. Iraqis who have come into contact with some of the material suffer from rashes and blistering on their hands and feet. They also complain of gagging and coughing. Rats near sites where waste was dumped have died and lie next to soiled containers. Abu Saif, a Fallujah scrap dealer who handles US military surplus, lifted up his trouser legs and raised his hands to show blistered skin. “I got this when I worked on what was supposed to be American scrap metal,” he said. “I checked with a doctor and he said these are the effects of dangerous chemicals.” Private recycling companies located within American bases have allegedly mixed hazardous material with ordinary scrap and passed it on to local dealers. “By the time we see this stuff it is too late,” said Abu Saif. Several workers at his and other yards have been injured while handling supposed scrap metal. “When they poured out what’s in these jerry cans they started coughing,” another yard owner said. “Some got rashes and many quit work. So when I get this kind of material now I bury it somewhere far away.” Some of the dumped materials have labels identifying them as US military property or come with paperwork from the Department of Defence. The Times discovered a 2008 e-mail from Allied Chemical of Morristown, New Jersey, to Pentagon officials warning of hazardous effects. A printout was attached to a discarded canister of sulphuric acid, a highly corrosive liquid used in wastewater treatment. It said of the substance: “Causes severe burns to skin and lungs ... Get immediate medical attention ... Use gas mask.” As the majority of US troops depart from Iraq this year, hundreds of bases are being closed and all hazardous material is supposed to be either returned to the US by ship via the Iraqi port of Umm Qasr or recycled in specially built facilities in northern and western Iraq. Brigadier-General Stephen Lanza, the US military spokesman in Baghdad, said: “We take this issue very seriously and want to solve the problem. There is a variety of ways in which this [dumping] could have happened. We are now putting a system into place. There is a lot of catching up to do.” Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-33) not displayed.
#34. To: no gnu taxes (#32) (Edited) That's a state website, boy. I posted a link to the EPA in which they proclaim used MOTOR oil as a hazardous waste. #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #35. To: war (#33) Details here: For years, under the authority of Section 3014 of Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA), the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has struggled to manage the situation of used oil in the hazardous waste regulatory arena. Initially, used oil was not specifically listed as a hazardous waste, but there were many concerns as to whether or not used oil should be regulated. Early in 1992, EPA proposed to list a number of used oils as hazardous waste. However, the EPA subsequently withdrew this proposal and promulgated new used oil management regulations (57FR41566, September 10, 1992). The agency's decision was that used oil should not be listed as a hazardous waste, but should have its own set of standards (regulations). These standards were published on September 10, 1992, in Federal Register (FR), page 41566, Vol. 57 (57FR41566), and codified in Part 279 of Chapter 40 of Code of Federal Regulations (40CFR279), Standards for The Management of Used Oil. http://www.p2pays.org/ref/20/19926/p2_documents/htis_docs/janfeb98.htm
#36. To: war (#34) That's a state website, boy. And the reg it cites is the Federal reg. If it were a Fedral hazardous waste, the States would have to regulate it as such.
#37. To: no gnu taxes (#36) What site does my link go to and what does it state about used MOTOR oil? #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #38. To: war (#37) http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=07263626f2333d9ecc015d8f0caf28ce&rgn=div8&view=text&node=40:26.0.1.1.9.1.47.1&idno=40 Definition of used oil is pretty broad: Used oil means any oil that has been refined from crude oil, or any synthetic oil, that has been used and as a result of such use is contaminated by physical or chemical impurities. In fact, the vast majority of used oil would be used motor oil.
#39. To: no gnu taxes (#38) Even when he's wrong, in his mind, he's right' ngt. You should know this by now. Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation. #40. To: Badeye (#39) It was a pretty trivial matter to get into this much of an argument over, that's for sure.
#41. To: no gnu taxes (#40) The anti groupie is trivial, ngt. Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation. #42. To: no gnu taxes (#38) (Edited) You've still linked me to nothing. And the reason it's now a big deal is because you lied...got caught...failed to admit it and have been deflecting ever since. Meanwhile here's another slap, Bitch #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #43. To: Badeye (#41) (Edited) Is there a chance that you could be a little less boring? I'm not talking becoming full blow interesting. I'm talking elevating your wit to a level somewhat above a gaaked up hairball from an 19 year old spastic cat. You know, small moves, Boofer... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #44. To: war (#42) You've still linked me to nothing. And the reason it's now a big deal is because you lied...got caught...failed to admit it and have been deflecting ever since. Gawd, willy, I've often thought you were a poser, but now it's pretty obvious. Have you ever gone to a company site and had to classify waste for RCRA? You think that's the same thing as household outreach programs? I linked you to the actual rules and you don't have the actual ability to read and interpret them. I've presented to you as fact that used oil is not hazardous waste (as classified by the EPA hint: that was you're official out, but you're too dense too realize it) and you ignore it. I'm going to save this thread and later present it to other consultants so we can laugh at the other other dumbasses that exist out there.
#45. To: no gnu taxes (#44) (Edited) You just cannot control yourself can you, RuntBoy? You get your ass kicked every time that you engage me. You'd ***think*** you'd have learned by now. I've provided you with two links direct to the EPA website classifying used motor oil as HW. You can't even post a link. And why would you ***think*** that I would give even a fleeting care to a) whom you associate and b) what you choose to laugh about. Make sure you show your butt buddies this while you're laughing: WHAT IS HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE? If you walk around your garage, kitchen, bathroom, or workshop, you'll probably find hazardous materials or products you and your family use every day. Hazardous materials that can no longer be used become household hazardous waste (HHW). HHW includes hazardous materials such as household cleaners, paints, paint thinners, motor oils, gasoline, and pesticides. HHW may pose a threat to human health or the environment if it is not disposed of properly. #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #46. To: war (#45) If you walk around your garage, kitchen, bathroom, or workshop, you'll probably find hazardous materials or products you and your family use every day. It's hazardous waste that meets such definition under RCRA. Am I supposed to conduct a RCRA training seminar here?
#47. To: no gnu taxes, Skip Intro (#44) PS: Your initials csn also stand for "Erectile Dysfunction"... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #48. To: no gnu taxes (#46) WHAT IS HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE? #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #49. To: war (#45) war,
I don't know you but I feel sorry for you. You have obviously done many internet searches at this point and know you are wrong, yet you still continue on this quixotic path?
#50. To: no gnu taxes (#46) Why don't you conduct one on self control? You're equally as qualified... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #51. To: no gnu taxes (#49) Chuckles...why is the EPA calling it hazardous waste, Paddy? You've deflected that question every time that it has been asked. Every time... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #52. To: war (#51) Chuckles...why is the EPA calling it hazardous waste, They aren't. You have no idea of the difference between an informal public policy release and official Rules.
#53. To: no gnu taxes (#52) (Edited) They aren't. You're lying. Those two links go to the EPA website upon which they refer to used motor oil as hazardous waste. . Can I dump used motor oil down my sink? #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #54. To: no gnu taxes (#52) Here's the official List of EPA Hazardous Materials: http://www.ehs.unr.edu/website/ProgramAreas/WasteManagement/EPAHWList/tabid/161/Default.aspx Now. Motor oil can sometimes be Toxic if: Contains toxic chemicals and heavy metals. http://www.epa.gov/waste/conserve/materials/usedoil/index.htm -----------------------------------------------------------
#55. To: war (#53) Summary 1) The EPA encourages waste oil recovery by not classifying used motor oil (UMO) as a hazardous waste and by permitting its use as fuel in many applications with minimal air pollution requirements.
EPA Policies Encourage Fuel Uses for Used Motor Oil http://www.glgroup.com/News/EPA-Policies-Encourage-Fuel-Uses-for-Used-Motor-Oil-7299.html -----------------------------------------------------------
#56. To: no gnu taxes, war (#52) You are wasting your time. If its not in the first sentence, war will never read it. war is a bumper sticker philosopher that thinks he is Perry Mason. -----------------------------------------------------------
#57. To: WhiteSands (#56) If its not in the first sentence, war will never read it. Ouch:) The shill poodle catches yet another deserved backhand. Amazing the statist trash that is posting feeble misdirections on this very thread all the while oblivious to who is running the country and "on whose desk the buck stops" eh? Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. Below is positively the most hilariously BS overflowing comment from the resident obamunist spent-condom EVER:) "This is WHY I left the GOP in the mid 90's. ." Dwarf #58. To: Badeye, war, no gnu taxes (#39) Even when he's wrong, in his mind, he's right' ngt. Summary 1) The EPA encourages waste oil recovery by not classifying used motor oil (UMO) as a hazardous waste and by permitting its use as fuel in many applications with minimal air pollution requirements. EPA Policies Encourage Fuel Uses for Used Motor Oil http://www.glgroup.com/News/EPA-Policies-Encourage-Fuel-Uses-for-Used-Motor-Oil-7299.html -----------------------------------------------------------
#59. To: no gnu taxes (#52) Can I dump used motor oil down my sink? #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #60. To: war (#59) You are boring me. Used oil is defined as "any oil that has been refined from crude oil, or any synthetic oil, that has been used and as a result of such use is contaminated by physical or chemical impurities" (40 CFR 279.1). Used oil is currently not classified as either a hazardous waste or a universal waste, but is subject to the federal requirements under 40 CFR 279.
#61. To: no gnu taxes (#60) Can I dump used motor oil down my sink? #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #62. To: war (#59) This was pretty funny. I think you should see it _______________________________________________________________________________ #56. To: no gnu taxes, war (#52) You are wasting your time. If its not in the first sentence, war will never read it. war is a bumper sticker philosopher that thinks he is Perry Mason. ----------------------------------------------------------- Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in. WhiteSands posted on 2010-06-14 22:10:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#63. To: war (#61) You can dump cyanide salts down your kitchen sink. Who's to stop you?
#64. To: no gnu taxes (#62) I find Badeye's wife not worth any kid of effort. I don't need to be reminded why. I went in to this discussion knowing what I was talking about. You didn't. EPA considers used MOTOR oil a hazarous waste. Deal with it... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #65. To: no gnu taxes (#63) Chuckles...always bending context, Paddy. You lost AGAIN...deal with it... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #66. To: war (#64) EPA does not differentiate between types of used oil. If you think motor oil is a hazardous waste, feel free to find it in the official list of hazardous wastes. Discussing this with you is like trying to explain partial differential equations to a toddler: hazardous by characteristics: http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=a94fa8558ec34e56eebd1551b2734a91&rgn=div6&view=text&node=40:25.0.1.1.2.3&idno=40 listed hazardous wastes: http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=a94fa8558ec34e56eebd1551b2734a91&rgn=div6&view=text&node=40:25.0.1.1.2.4&idno=40
#67. To: no gnu taxes (#66) Chuckles...more deflection... I change the oil in my car...instead of turning it in for recycling, I dump it in the sewer...according to the EPA, have I dumped hazardous waste? #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #68. To: no gnu taxes (#40) Well, when you are unemployed, unmarried, but have 24/7/365 to pretend otherwise on the internet.... Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation. #69. To: no gnu taxes, White Sands (#62) war is a bumper sticker philosopher that thinks he is Perry Mason. Ain't that the truth. Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation. #70. To: Badeye (#68) Well, when you are unemployed, unmarried, but have 24/7/365 to pretend otherwise on the internet.... Is that the working title of your autobiography, Boofer? #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #71. To: no gnu taxes (#66) (Edited) I change the oil in my car...instead of turning it in for recycling, I dump it in the sewer...according to the EPA, have I dumped hazardous waste?It's okay Puddin'...everyone knows that the answer is YES... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #72. To: war (#67) according to the EPA, have I dumped hazardous waste? No, unless it has been mixed some listed hazardous waste. It is not legal under the used oil rules to dispose of used oil in such a fashion, but used oil is not a hazardous waste. If you think it is a hazardous waste, simply point to it in the list -- the complete list -- of hazardous wastes that I linked you to. The difference is that if used oil was a hazardous waste, the handling/disposal requirements would be much more stringent and costly.
#73. To: no gnu taxes (#72) (Edited) It is not legal under the used oil rules to dispose of used oil in such a fashion, but used oil is not a hazardous waste. You have one choice with used motor oil, recycle it. Why? If you don't and you dispose of it otherwise...what happens and why? EPA rules extend beyond what they have published, puddin', and you being the Big Time Envioronmental Bureaucrat that you are, should know that. What happens when an autoshop's oil collection storage tank leaks? Have they spilled hazardous waste? The EPA considers used motor oil a hazardous waste when it leaks from a storage facility, when it is transported incorrectly or if it is disposed of incorrectly. Stop parsing, stop trying to "win" and own it... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #74. To: war (#73) Used oil is not hazardous waste unless it is mixed some actual hazardous waste. There are separate rules for dealing with it, but it is not hazardous waste. If it were hazardous waste, there would be special rules for handling and storage and those don't apply to used oil. That's it. Either you understand or you don't but I am done with you. My IQ goes down a point every time I have to keep explaining this crap to you.
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