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Title: By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men
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URL Source: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=68&chapter=3&version=31
Published: Jun 5, 2006
Author: GOD
Post Date: 2006-06-05 17:41:47 by TLBSHOW
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3First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." 5But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. 8But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. 10But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.[a] 11Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.[b]That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness. 14So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position. 18But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.
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#1. To: All (#0)
This was probably not the exact words of our savior Jesus Christ but of a motratl who added their own twist. Men like to place their own stamp on everything.
That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.
... The Sun's mass is about 333,000 times Earth's mass. An object at the Sun's surface would weigh 28 times as much as it does on Earth's surface!
Actually it is straight out of the Bible. God said he would preserve his word. I think God is powerful and capable of bringing an uncorrupted version of his word to his people. I don't think God would have us guessing what is right and what is wrong. That wouldn't be a just God.
god is going to destroy the earth using the SUN THAT HE MADE
by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed
This I believe,but the Bible was written by men with their perspectives. Granted the core of it was inspired by Jesus, but to insist everything in the Bible is 100 percent accurate is to presume men don't twist tales.
So in other words we can pick and choose what to believe, based on what the whim of the day. Nah I'll go by Gods word from the first to the last verse. It has stood the test of time.
Riddler's explanation is more accurate than yours.
Jesus came down to Earth to spraed the word, but it was left up to his disciples to make sure the word got from Jesus to generations long after the crusification of Jesus. Like I said the core of the Bible is accurate, but there are probably little fabrications created by men. This is just a belief that humans are inperfect so how can we believe Jesus was quoted perfectly in the Bible? I still believe in the Bible but I do have questions about some of the input in there.
Where did you hear that at. Jesus said he would send the holy spirit to guide them. Does the holy spirit not know truth? Here is what is true. With your view man can't trust scripture. There is always a doubt as to what is true and what is not. You have no standard to go by. How do you choose what is true and what is not. You have to just go with your hunches. So we have millions of people believing millions of different things. That is a trick of satan to say the Bible isn't true. That it can't be trusted. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
You are free to believe a teenager that hasn't read the Bible if that is what you wish.
I'll send you over a copy of the Bible. You can cross out or rip out the parts that are just tall tales. That way I will have a more accurate Bible. Thanks in advance ;)
I have read the Bible, I openly admit to not understanding alot of what is said in the Bible. To say that I haven't read the Bible is an unknown statment by yourself. I am an open minded individual who is a strong believer in Christ, if God doesn't agree with me saying men tell twisted tales then let me be sent a sign. I am commiting no blastphomy here just stating when men are given the chance to translate the word of God something may get lost in translation.
You are again taking what I said out of context, that would be defacing the Bible which I would cut off my own hand before defacing the core of my religion .
Dont you know Stone knows everything youve done and read.
Christians believe it is the Holy Spirit who leads people to faith in Jesus and the one who gives them the ability to lead a Christian life. The Spirit dwells inside every true Christian, each one's body being His temple (1 Corinthians 3:16). He is depicted as a 'Counsellor' or 'Helper' (paracletus in Latin, derived from Greek), guiding them in the way of the truth. The Spirit's action in one's life is believed to produce positive results, known as the Fruit of the Spirit. The Spirit is also believed to give gifts (i.e. abilities) to Christians
Isnt that what you do anyway? Mister christian......LOL
NO, I agree that the Bible is the word of God. Just like Jesus said it was. Do I sin. Yes we all do.
Actually I'm not. You said some parts of the Bible are fables or whatever it was you said. So if some parts are just fables or the words you said then shouldn't those pages be removed? How would taking out the parts that you said were incorrect be cutting out the core of your religion. You yourself said that the Bible can't be one hundred percent believed.
Im not saying the Bible isn't the word of Jesus but however the Bible was written by mortals not angels. God will accept you if you accept God into your hearts and believe in him completely.
Actually god made people write it. He directed it, Jesus said as much. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Lets see your not saying the bible is the word of Jesus. Then why did you say it was written by mortals. That's doublespeak.
I believe in the core of the Bible, if you dismember any part of the heart it fails to pump blood throughout your body. The Bible is no different defacing is like a sin to me, and even suggesting I tear a part out is an insult to me and any other true Christian.
Ok what is the core of the Bible. That is pretty vague. You said some parts aren't to be believed or are written by man or whatever. Give us an example of what is wrong. Show some incorrect scripture.
Actually I've talked to him and I believe he said he never read all of the Bible.
Hmmmmmm, one bible different views, now theres a concept.
Faith is to believe in something you cannot see, hear , or taste. God created the universe to which we can both agree, but God allows mortals to worship him . Jesus was sent to Earth to pay for the sins of mortals. His disciples five of them had verses in the Bible. They wrote what they were taught by Jesus. I will check to make sure this is accurate. but don't claim to say I don't believe the word of God.
12 disciples 5 had verses.
Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a teaching document instructing the faithful that some parts of the Bible are not actually true. The Catholic bishops of England, Wales and Scotland are warning their five million worshippers, as well as any others drawn to the study of scripture, that they should not expect “total accuracy” from the Bible. “We should not expect to find in Scripture full scientific accuracy or complete historical precision,” they say in The Gift of Scripture. The document is timely, coming as it does amid the rise of the religious Right, in particular in the US. Some Christians want a literal interpretation of the story of creation, as told in Genesis, taught alongside Darwin’s theory of evolution in schools, believing “intelligent design” to be an equally plausible theory of how the world began. But the first 11 chapters of Genesis, in which two different and at times conflicting stories of creation are told, are among those that this country’s Catholic bishops insist cannot be “historical”. At most, they say, they may contain “historical traces”. The document shows how far the Catholic Church has come since the 17th century, when Galileo was condemned as a heretic for flouting a near-universal belief in the divine inspiration of the Bible by advocating the Copernican view of the solar system. Only a century ago, Pope Pius X condemned Modernist Catholic scholars who adapted historical-critical methods of analysing ancient literature to the Bible. In the document, the bishops acknowledge their debt to biblical scholars. They say the Bible must be approached in the knowledge that it is “God’s word expressed in human language” and that proper acknowledgement should be given both to the word of God and its human dimensions. They say the Church must offer the gospel in ways “appropriate to changing times, intelligible and attractive to our contemporaries”. The Bible is true in passages relating to human salvation, they say, but continue: “We should not expect total accuracy from the Bible in other, secular matters.” They go on to condemn fundamentalism for its “intransigent intolerance” and to warn of “significant dangers” involved in a fundamentalist approach. “Such an approach is dangerous, for example, when people of one nation or group see in the Bible a mandate for their own superiority, and even consider themselves permitted by the Bible to use violence against others.” Of the notorious anti-Jewish curse in Matthew 27:25, “His blood be on us and on our children”, a passage used to justify centuries of anti-Semitism, the bishops say these and other words must never be used again as a pretext to treat Jewish people with contempt. Describing this passage as an example of dramatic exaggeration, the bishops say they have had “tragic consequences” in encouraging hatred and persecution. “The attitudes and language of first- century quarrels between Jews and Jewish Christians should never again be emulated in relations between Jews and Christians.” As examples of passages not to be taken literally, the bishops cite the early chapters of Genesis, comparing them with early creation legends from other cultures, especially from the ancient East. The bishops say it is clear that the primary purpose of these chapters was to provide religious teaching and that they could not be described as historical writing. Similarly, they refute the apocalyptic prophecies of Revelation, the last book of the Christian Bible, in which the writer describes the work of the risen Jesus, the death of the Beast and the wedding feast of Christ the Lamb. The bishops say: “Such symbolic language must be respected for what it is, and is not to be interpreted literally. We should not expect to discover in this book details about the end of the world, about how many will be saved and about when the end will come.” In their foreword to the teaching document, the two most senior Catholics of the land, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor, Archbishop of Westminster, and Cardinal Keith O’Brien, Archbishop of St Andrew’s and Edinburgh, explain its context. They say people today are searching for what is worthwhile, what has real value, what can be trusted and what is really true. The new teaching has been issued as part of the 40th anniversary celebrations of Dei Verbum, the Second Vatican Council document explaining the place of Scripture in revelation. In the past 40 years, Catholics have learnt more than ever before to cherish the Bible. “We have rediscovered the Bible as a precious treasure, both ancient and ever new.” A Christian charity is sending a film about the Christmas story to every primary school in Britain after hearing of a young boy who asked his teacher why Mary and Joseph had named their baby after a swear word. The Breakout Trust raised £200,000 to make the 30-minute animated film, It’s a Boy. Steve Legg, head of the charity, said: “There are over 12 million children in the UK and only 756,000 of them go to church regularly. That leaves a staggering number who are probably not receiving basic Christian teaching.” BELIEVE IT OR NOT UNTRUE Genesis ii, 21-22 So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept he took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh; and the rib which the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man Genesis iii, 16 God said to the woman [after she was beguiled by the serpent]: “I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.” Matthew xxvii, 25 The words of the crowd: “His blood be on us and on our children.” Revelation xix,20 And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had worked the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshipped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with brimstone.” TRUE Exodus iii, 14 God reveals himself to Moses as: “I am who I am.” Leviticus xxvi,12 “I will be your God, and you shall be my people.” Exodus xx,1-17 The Ten Commandments Matthew v,7 The Sermon on the Mount Mark viii,29 Peter declares Jesus to be the Christ Luke i The Virgin Birth John xx,28 Proof of bodily resurrection JOIN THE DEBATE www.timesonline.co.uk/debate
Actually more then five wrote books. I never meant to imply that you aren't a christian. I'm just saying that you are wrong to not trust the entire word of God. God gave it to us for our benefit. He said he would preserve his word. That it would be taught in all the nations. To believe that the Bible is corruptable is to believe in a weak God that can't preserve his word. It seems that that is a common theme with some christians. That you can't trust the word of God. Well what parts can't you trust? For example what about Adam and Eve. Do you believe that was a fairy tale or literal truth.
Im Christian not Cathloic get that straight.
They never did. They believe the pope is infallable and that praying to mary is biblical.
I have had the Adam and Eve story explained to me befor but have yet to understand how two people created the whole population, if you can give me an explaination on it I would gladly listen.
I can try to explain it to you in a bit. The point on adam and eve though is this. The Bible teaches that Sin entered the world through the sins of Adam and Eve. If the story of Adam and Eve is not true, then what is the purpose for Jesus to come to the earth? If not to cleanse us from sin?
1+1=3... 1+1=4... 1+1=5... see the pattern
You need to go back to school. lol
Ok, listen im not trying to dissuade anyone from believing in the Bible quite the contrary I want what Jesus was trying to teach the poulation to come to fruition.
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#2. To: TLBSHOW (#0)
Author: GOD
#3. To: All (#0)
#4. To: ?Riddler? (#2)
The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare
http://vathena.arc.nasa.gov/curric/space/sun/sunearth.html
#5. To: All (#4)
by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed
#6. To: ?Riddler? (#2)
This was probably not the exact words of our savior Jesus Christ but of a motratl who added their own twist. Men like to place their own stamp on everything.
#7. To: All (#4)
LOL
#8. To: All (#7)
god is going to destroy the earth using the SUN THAT HE MADE
#9. To: A K A Stone (#6)
Actually it is straight out of the Bible
#10. To: ?Riddler? (#9)
This I believe,but the Bible was written by men with their perspectives. Granted the core of it was inspired by Jesus, but to insist everything in the Bible is 100 percent accurate is to presume men don't twist tales.
#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)
#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)
#13. To: ?Riddler? (#12)
Jesus came down to Earth to spraed the word, but it was left up to his disciples to make sure the word got from Jesus to generations long after the crusification of Jesus. Like I said the core of the Bible is accurate, but there are probably little fabrications created by men. This is just a belief that humans are inperfect so how can we believe Jesus was quoted perfectly in the Bible? I still believe in the Bible but I do have questions about some of the input in there.
#14. To: Fred Mertz (#11)
Riddler's explanation is more accurate than yours.
#15. To: ?Riddler? (#9)
This I believe,but the Bible was written by men with their perspectives. Granted the core of it was inspired by Jesus, but to insist everything in the Bible is 100 percent accurate is to presume men don't twist tales.
#16. To: A K A Stone (#15)
#17. To: A K A Stone (#15)
I'll send you over a copy of the Bible. You can cross out or rip out the parts that are just tall tales. That way I will have a more accurate Bible. Thanks in advance ;)
#18. To: Riddler (#16)
#19. To: All (#17)
#20. To: A K A Stone (#15)
I'll send you over a copy of the Bible. You can cross out or rip out the parts that are just tall tales. That way I will have a more accurate Bible. Thanks in advance ;)
#21. To: IronSage (#20)
Isnt that what you do anyway? Mister christian......LOL
#22. To: ?Riddler? (#17)
You are again taking what I said out of context, that would be defacing the Bible which I would cut off my own hand before defacing the core of my religion .
#23. To: A K A Stone (#21)
#24. To: ?Riddler? (#23)
the Bible was written by mortals
#25. To: ?Riddler? (#23)
Im not saying the Bible isn't the word of Jesus but however the Bible was written by mortals
#26. To: A K A Stone (#22)
You yourself said that the Bible can't be one hundred percent believed.
#27. To: ?Riddler? (#26)
#28. To: IronSage (#18)
Dont you know Stone knows everything youve done and read.
#29. To: riddler and stoned (#26)
#30. To: A K A Stone (#25)
#31. To: All (#30)
#32. To: All (#31)
#33. To: ?Riddler? (#30)
five of them had verses in the Bible. They wrote what they were taught by Jesus. I will check to make sure this is accurate. but don't claim to say I don't believe the word of God.
#34. To: All (#32)
#35. To: ?Riddler? (#32)
Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible
#36. To: A K A Stone (#33)
#37. To: ?Riddler?, Jhoffa_ (#36)
I have had the Adam and Eve story explained to me befor but have yet to understand how two people created the whole population, if you can give me an explaination on it I would gladly listen.
#38. To: ?Riddler? (#36)
have had the Adam and Eve story explained to me befor but have yet to understand how two people created the whole population, if you can give me an explaination on it I would gladly listen
#39. To: IronSage (#38)
1+1=3... 1+1=4... 1+1=5... see the pattern
#40. To: A K A Stone (#37)
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