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Title: UPDATE: MSNBC defends fraudulent Rand Paul transcript as "technically correct", makes no apologies
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Published: May 24, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-05-24 16:38:55 by Badeye
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UPDATE: MSNBC defends fraudulent Rand Paul transcript as "technically correct", makes no apologies Submitted by ron_paul_is_awesome on Thu, 05/20/2010 - 22:05 in Daily Paul Liberty Forum I've noticed a few recent news articles are reporting Rand had the following exchange with Rachel Maddow.
Maddow: Do you think that a private business has the right to say, "We don't serve black people"?
Paul: Yes. I'm not in favor of any discrimination of any form...
If you go to the video however, Rand obviously never said the word "yes". Here it is, cued up to the exact moment: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VGdP2mNPeo#t=8m1s
It was merely some sort of insignificant vocalization to maintain the flow of conversation that was already made difficult by the satellite delay. Now he WAS laying out what the arguments would be for "yes", but he never actually said "yes". It makes a BIG difference to insert that word there.
Here are some of the major media outlets I have come across that are using the nonexistent "yes" quote: www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/us/politics/21paul.html hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/...20729ce4298abefc1903704... blogs.abcnews.com/politic...ch/2010/05/white-house-... voices.washingtonpost.com...-line/2010/05/rand_paul...
After doing a little google searching though, you will see that those articles above are just the beginning. Both the New York Times and the Associated Press articles have been propagated in MANY major media outlets (too many to list) and also many many more smaller media outlets.
UPDATE: Looks like MSNBC released a fraudulent transcript that may be the source of all these misquotes popping up. www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3725...ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_madd... 
UPDATE #2: A fill-in for Rachel Maddow acknowledged on Friday's show that their transcript was "totally misleading", but said the quote was still "technically correct" and declined to apologize for it. The host also acted like it was just the New York Times that used the misquote, when in fact there were many more media outlets that did, all because of their shady transcript.
Here is the video from Friday's show: www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5zOQ05b9E
UPDATE #3: NewsBusters has picked up the story and is linking to this thread! newsbusters.org/blogs/noe...ppard/2010/05/22/rachel...
UPDATE #4: DP user j has pointed out ANOTHER misquote of Rand Paul by the Rachel Maddow Show. From Thursday's show: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JFKsV0SKDA
UPDATE #5: Influential Kentucky political blog BlueGrassBulletin has picked up the story and is linking here as well: www.bluegrassbulletin.com.../05/rand-paul-controver...
UPDATE #6: LewRockwell.com is linking here! www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/58246.html
UPDATE #7: More than 4 complete days after the original interview and 2 complete days after the clarification segment on The Rachel Maddow Show, none of the news outlets I listed above have bothered to correct the record in any way that I can see, including the New York Times, who was specifically corrected on air by The Rachel Maddow Show. MSNBC has not corrected their transcript either, even though they admit it is "totally misleading".
UPDATE #8: Hmmm... On "The Maddow Blog" on the MSNBC website, there is a version of the transcript with the "yes" left out: maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/.../2010/05/20/4313688-ran...
MADDOW: Do you think that a private business has the right to say we don't serve black people?
PAUL: I'm not in favor of any discrimination of any form...
How about a little consistency here? Do they even have any written procedures in place for transcribing? Or were they just playing dirty tricks?
Actually, I don't think they have any written procedures in place at all, because here is the 3rd version of their transcribing technique I have found: www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37279599/ns/meet_the_press/
MS. RACHEL MADDOW: Do you think that a private business has a right to say, "We don't serve black people"?
DR. PAUL: I'm not in, I'm not in, I'm not in--yeah--I'm not in favor of any discrimination of any form ...
The 2nd and 3rd versions are really a lot more accurate than the 1st version. Unfortunately, the 1st version was the one that counted. And they still haven't corrected it.
UPDATE #9: Before MSNBC points fingers at the New York Times, they might want to issue a correction to the article on their own website. www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37255639
They didn't write it as it is an AP article, but they should still be able to issue a correcting statement at the beginning or end of the article, or just remove it.
UPDATE #10: Andrew Breitbart's bigjournalism.com is linking to this thread in an article and at the top of their front page (6th TOP STORY). Good article with a shoutout to the Daily Paul! bigjournalism.com/llyman/...05/24/rand-paul-wanders... (1 image)
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Looks like MSNBC released a fraudulent transcript that may be the source of all these misquotes popping up.
Not my normal type of article to post...but if this is indeed the case, its a helluva indictment of MSNBC.
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
#2. To: Badeye (#1) (Edited)
Looks like MSNBC released a fraudulent transcript that may be the source of all these misquotes popping up.Not my normal type of article to post...but if this is indeed the case, its a helluva indictment of MSNBC.
I wouldn't put it past any of the media to tamper with a persons response to questions and misslead the people, but this didn't work on me. I agree with Rand on this one, the feds should keep their noses out of Private Businesses, and as much as I might not like the way someone runs their business, it's still my right to stay away. jmo!
#3. To: Murron (#2)
I don't disagree with you on that point, or Paul's view of it as a discussion around the dinner table, or over a cocktail. But the fact remains, he made two rookie mistakes during his 'day after coming out party'.
1) He went on MSNBC.
2) He even brought up Constitutional Theory on a topic that was addressed fifty years ago, dealing with race.
As Krauthammer said 'unforced error first day out'.
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
#4. To: Badeye (#3)
1) He went on MSNBC.2) He even brought up Constitutional Theory on a topic that was addressed fifty years ago, dealing with race.
As Krauthammer said 'unforced error first day out'.
He sure did, think he'll learn from them?
#5. To: Badeye (#1)
Not my normal type of article to post...but if this is indeed the case, its a helluva indictment of MSNBC.
I am shocked to hear that MSNBC edits quotes and news.
It's almost as if they have some desire to affect public opinion.
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Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#6. To: Badeye (#0)
Rachel Maddow is a liar. Rachel Maddow is a liar. Rachel Maddow lies. Rachel Maddow lies. You can tell by looking at her that something is off.
#7. To: Badeye (#0) (Edited)
Let me get this straight. Paul actually DID say the word "yes" and the transcript shows that he DID say the word "yes" but it's MSNBC's fault for not providing context even though that context bears out that the word "yes" fits?
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
#8. To: Badeye (#0)
Three points:
A.) Paul's views have nothing to do with racism. He was making a point about property rights. PERIOD.
B.) This issue was settled 45 years ago, so why are we talking about it now?
C.) Rand Paul is not too bright for answering in the way that he did. If someone asked him about this, he should have said "this has been settled a long time ago... PERIOD". Instead, he chose to discuss philosophy. You don't discuss philosophy if you're a Senatorial candidate. You discuss issues.
I think Rand Paul is exactly the type of person we need in the Senate, but he needs to temper his philosophical views with the world that it is today,
#9. To: A K A Stone (#6)
Obama Wars is the correct catagory?
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
#10. To: jwpegler (#8)
Pragmatic response.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
#11. To: jwpegler (#8)
think Rand Paul is exactly the type of person we need in the Senate, BUT...
You are a phoney! He's EXACTLY what we need, BUT?????????????????????????????????
You're a fraud. If you thought he was EXACTLY what we need, there would be no "BUT".
EXACT is EXACT, no ifs, ands, or buts.
You are a fraud.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?
(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.
#12. To: Murron (#4)
He sure did, think he'll learn from them?
Obviously he's not stupid. So it depends on how realistic he is about national politics. If he wants to play 'stubbornly righteous' he's toast. If he accepts the rules at this level, he'll be fine and win easily.
Don't know enough about him to say which way he'll go.
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
#13. To: WhiteSands (#5)
Par for the course with Liberals. Note they are claiming they 'won' last week.....rotfl.
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
#14. To: A K A Stone (#6)
Again, par for the course with Liberals.
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
#15. To: jwpegler (#8)
B was answered by C.
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
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