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To: A K A Stone (#0) Well, for my part I am not calling for war. I am calling for us to remain in peace, while spending money, generated by our peacetime economy, to arm the Ukrainians to fight THEIR war against Russia and destroy the Russians. We don't have to go to war to accomplish that. They'll do the fighting - have to, to keep their country. Russia has already bitten off more than they can chew. They know that they would be plowed under if they attacked NATO, and would only be able to stop being conquered by committing suicide with nuclear weapons if they started it. So, I'm for peace for us, war for the Russians, because the Russians chose war, therefore, I say give them their fill of it! Vicomte13  posted on  2024-02-13   21:35:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: All (#1) And as for Israel? Well, I'd just as soon not send them any more military aid than we already do. They are so ridiculously overpowered versus Hamas that it isn't funny. American financial support for Israel's war is not a matter of real defense, it's a matter of political pandering to the pro- Israel crowd in the US in an election year. I'd just as soon save that money, or send it to Ukraine. Israel can't lose on the battlefield. What they're doing guarantees they won't win and have peace either. There can't be any peace in a land where everybody is a religious fanatic of one stripe or another, and nobody will give an inch because "God says!" No, he doesn't. And SINCE God isn't going to intervene on either side, they're just going to grind on forever, killing each other until Kingdom Come. I'm not interested in it, and don't want to spend any MORE money on it than we already do. We NEED Ukraine to win; it is good for us and our allies. Israel is going to win anyway, so save then money. Of course, the Democrats will just spend that money on illegal aliens, but at least that puts the money back in the US economy. Vicomte13  posted on  2024-02-13   21:40:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Vicomte13 (#2) We NEED Ukraine to win No we don't. I hope Speaker Johnson holds the line and says fuck Ukraine until our own border is secure. Our border is more important to us than Ukraines a thousand fold. DEPORT DEPROT DEPORT until they are all gone. Make America mostly black and white again. A K A Stone  posted on  2024-02-14   1:17:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: A K A Stone (#3) Yeah we do. We have to do both: close our border AND ensure Ukraine wins. In World War II we had to defeat Germany AND Japan. Same thing here. Vicomte13  posted on  2024-02-14   8:02:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Vicomte13 (#5) If you are willing to send your daughter to Ukraine than I will believe it is important to you. Otherwise I don't give a shit about Ukraine or the dick playing Pianists that they have for leader. He is a liberal who believes in faggot marriage and transfaggots. Fuck him. He also cancels elections. Forces people to the front lines without proper training. So when you send your kids there I will believe you. Maybe. A K A Stone  posted on  2024-02-14   23:07:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: A K A Stone (#6) I don't want ANY Americans to go to Ukraine. None. Zero. No American casualties. I want American money and equipment to go there, in large numbers, so that Ukrainians can do all the fighting and ultimately crush the Russians. American money is not at all the same thing as American flesh and blood. Vicomte13  posted on  2024-02-15   15:06:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: Vicomte13 (#7) (Edited) Unfortunately, no amount of American money and Ukrainians' blood will conceivably result in "crushing the Russians". The best we can hope for is fighting for some nebulous "upper hand" in the inevitable peace negotiations, which increasing numbers of Americans are favoring sooner rather than later...MUD Mudboy Slim  posted on  2024-02-29   12:48:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 8. #12. To: Mudboy Slim (#8) I have to disagree with you about Russia. They have not only done terribly in the field in this war, their economy is moribund, and their demographics are a disaster. They don't have unlimited tanks or artillery, while the Ukraine does. And, to be clear, the Russians have to provide for every aspect of their war effort. The Ukrainians just have to fight - they are economically supported by the West, which has an economy about 30 times the Russians. Russia is big. It takes a long time to hollow it out, but it is being hollowed out. This acts as a deterrent to everybody else. The Chinese see what is happening, and don't dare launch an invasion of Taiwan. Vicomte13  posted on  2024-03-01 09:40:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 8. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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