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Title: DeSantis to Newsmax: No 2-State Solution Exists
Source: Newsmax
URL Source: https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ ... -israel/2023/10/09/id/1137608/
Published: Oct 9, 2023
Author: Michael Katz
Post Date: 2023-10-09 18:16:30 by Charles_Byrd
Keywords: None
Views: 879
Comments: 10

There can be no two-state solution between Israel and Palestinians or swapping of land for peace if all Palestinians want is to eradicate the Jewish state, 2024 Republican presidential hopeful and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told Newsmax on Monday.

DeSantis told "The Chris Salcedo Show" that previous administrations have pledged full support for Israel while working behind the scenes with the United Nations and European nations to pressure Israel into accepting a two-state solution for peace with Palestinians.

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#2. To: Charles_Byrd (#0)

He's half right. Truth is, there is no solution AT ALL in Israel. You have Jews, who are stubborn and crazy, and Muslims, who are stubborn and crazy. Neither is going to ever give up. It is forever war.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-10-09   18:32:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#2)

You have Jews, who are stubborn and crazy, and Muslims, who are stubborn and crazy. Neither is going to ever give up. It is forever war.

How are Jews crazy?

More like the evil muslims want the land God promised to the Jews.

A K A Stone  posted on  2023-10-09   21:45:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

I am on the side of Israel here.

It is, nevertheless, a forever war.

Vicomte13  posted on  2023-10-09   22:11:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#4)

5 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

A K A Stone  posted on  2023-10-09   22:16:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#6. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Yes.

And our Lord Jesus Christ has no part with either side in the current conflict. The Jews explicitly reject Jesus. The Muslim's say he was a prophet, but then say that the records of what he said and did in the Bible are fabrications, and revamp Jesus in terms of Mohammed.

Jews reject Jesus as a crazy man. Muslims try to co-opt him into being a Muslim. Neither of them listen to what Jesus said, or frankly care. Jews make the Biblical claim, but their Bible does not include the parts where Jesus warned the Jews that the vineyard (Israel) and the Temple would be destroyed BECAUSE the people appointed to keep the vineyard murdered God's Son. And the Muslims claim that Allah said that no part of Dar es Islam could ever be taken away. (For the same reason, Muslims still claim Spain and Portugal.)

Islam is a fanatical religion of conquest, quite opposed to Jesus.

But the Jews make a claim that ignores what Jesus said about them too.

NEITHER SIDE has God on its side. God said that the tents of Ishmael (the Muslims of today) and the tents of Isaac (Israel) today, would be up against each other, and that Ishmael's hand would be against everybody, and that is exactly what we see.

From a religious perspective, as a follower of Christ, I reject both the Muslim and Jewish claim to Israel. I support Israel for a very practical reason: they are a democracy (of fanatics for a an exclusive religion) in a sea of undemocratic fanatics who claim the right to conquer everywhere. Israel is a useful foil to Muslim ambitions. This does not, however, make Israel RIGHT. It simply makes Israel a country we can have sympathy with because they are free and democratic, NOT because of their religion.

So, exactly as Genesis says, these people are fated to be up against each other and fight until the end of time. I note that the sons of Isaac and the sons of Ishmael who follow Christ, the Middle Eastern Christians, have no dog in this religious fight. The fact that Israel is FREE causes it to be a place that has a lot more Arab Christians in it than the the Arab countries.

Religiously, BOTH sides are fanatic and cracked. But secularly, Israel is a free democracy and the Muslim enemies are not. THAT is why the US should support Israel, to break the teeth of the Muslim aggressors, since the Muslims hate us too. It isn't that Israel is Jewish, it's that Israel is FREE. THAT is why we should, and will, stand for Israel.

The religious nature of the war between Muslims and Jews, both of whom are wrong from the perspective of Christians, is why it will be a forever war.

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