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United States News Title: Bluffing their way to an Article V Convention, Part 2: The best PR money can buy In Part 1, we saw that ever since 1907, 2/3 or more of the States have had at least one active application on record asking Congress to call a convention under Article V. And if Congress is hoodwinked into validating all non- rescinded applications by passing H.R.8419 or its 2023 counterpart,[1] Congress will likely trigger the first constitutional convention since 1787. So why wasn’t Congress deceived into calling a convention 50 or 100 years ago? Perhaps it’s because the PR industry hadn’t come of age yet! To justify a “call,” Congress, whose priority is getting re-elected, would require considerable constituent pressure— Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest I do not trust a Article V Convention. I listened to Mark Levin preach for it, and others have also. Noteworthy that Levin has a book out about it. I admit, I am not an educated Law student. I know Levin & others say that a convention can be controlled, and would have " safeguards ". Well, lets think about that. Who can prove that said convention will be limited to some things, and blocked from others ? Each state will select their delegates. Well, look at each states Congressional representation. Look at the people they have elected to the House, and to the Senate. That is exactly the kind of people that will become delegates. Now, bear in mind that most are lawyers. Levin & others can say that they could not repeal the 2nd amend. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. But once they convene, and it is packed with liberals / commies, they can do anything they want. They could abolish the US Constitution, and they could adopt a whole new constitution from Hell. They could say " it was legal, so you must STFU. Here is the new law, you must surrender your firearms, your homes, everything you possess now belongs to the state. If you do not like that, put your hands up, and stand in front of that ditch, or go through those doors for a good shower.. Anyone that is in favor of a new convention is either a Traitor, or is incredibly STUPID !!! Si vis pacem, para bellum
Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee #2. To: Stoner (#1) I do not believe TheGreatOne, Mark Levin is either a traitor or stupid, but I agree with your not trusting another Constitutional convention in the present political environment, if ever...MUD "NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!" #3. To: Mudboy Slim (#2) I have not yet decided about Levin. I previously really liked him, and had great respect for his opinion. But he did come on strong, banging the drum for the convention. One night he had a caller that was not buying his opinion, asking Levin several questions. Levin got quite belligerent, rude with the guy. He continued to ridicule the caller even after the caller had got off the phone. I was quite shocked at Levin. I realize he was trying to sell his book, but he took the wrong approach As I said, I had always liked him. But he seemed to have changed after he joined the Glen Beck Hate Trump Train. He & Beck went off the deep end. I don't know, but suspect they both lost listeners over that. But back on the Convention, even though it sounds so clean and non messy, I think he is very wrong !!! Oh, and I do still appreciate Levin's attitude about dogs !!! Regards Si vis pacem, para bellum
Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee #4. To: Stoner (#3) Levin does have a nasty side. He obviously is frustrated about the damage being done to this country by the Marxist DeeCee mob and tends to strike out. Say what folks will about Limbaugh, I believe he was a master at dealing with callers who disagreed with him, very rarely losing his composure...MUD "NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!" #5. To: Mudboy Slim (#4) (Edited) All true. I still listen to him when I can. I think he made a bad decision when he got on Becks " Hate Trump Train ". He & Beck were hot for Cruz, so there is that. At least Levin did not get as loony as Beck. It is noteworthy that after Trump won, and his popularity was obvious, both came around to support Trump. Again, one of the reasons I think they lost audience while they were anti Trump. But, regardless, Levin has become very thoughtful, and accurate in his defense of Trump. Besides the brief alliance with Beck, I am impressed with Levins views. And as I said, I still like to listen to him & his views. EXCEPT, on the Convention thing. I think on that matter, Levin's heart is in the right place. I think he wants to avoid a bloody civil war. Only a fool would want that. But I don't care how many books he writes on the topic, nor all the safeguards he claims are in it. Levin should recall from history that the first convention was supposed to be to modify the Articles of Confederation. That got scrapped to write a whole new constitution. I have read other history / legal scholars that still argue that it would have been better to have modified the Articles of Confederation. I am not going to get into that here. My point is that once started, a convention can take on a life of its own, regardless of what controls / guardrails one claims there are. I am against a convention. My common sense tells me that the leftist / communist democrats / rinos will worm their way into their states convention delegations, take over, then all of us peons will be screwed. So, no on a convention. I would only agree to one if it were controlled by Jesus Christ Himself !!! Otherwise, I trust NO ONE that wants to open such a can of worms that would no doubt be a ticking time bomb ! Regards Si vis pacem, para bellum
Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee #6. To: Stoner (#5) Conservatives allegedly have a 5.5 to 3.5 majority in the SCOTUS (Roberts is the half- man), so why don't we start enforcing the 9th and 10th Amendments? Better than putting all our eggs into another Constitutional Convention...MUD BTW...El Rushbo never threw Trump under the bus, and it turns out he was right all along. "NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!" Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
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