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Published: Feb 18, 2010
Author: Me
Post Date: 2010-02-18 17:49:55 by go65
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CPAC is in full swing, a few highlights so far: - speakers reading jokes off teleprompters that make fun of Obama's use of a teleprompter - Mitt Romney pretending he's a conservative - Scott Brown pretending he's a conservative - Attendees praising the service they are getting from unionized staff - And then there's this (NSFW) http://alturl.com/bix8
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James O'Keefe is on his way!! (If his parole officer lets him cross state lines!) Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
Glenn Beck delivers the closing keynote, he is an admitted cocaine user who went through rehab to clean himself up. You can't write this stuff.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
Ping
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
Does it distinguish them from George Bush too?
How much did it cost to attend?
It couldn't have been that much. They didn't have to pay Sarah Palin $100,000 to give a speech.
Cheney suggests yesterday that Obama's presidency is in last throes, good news for the Obama administration.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
Owe-Bama's poll numbers suggest the same. As does the real world 17% unemployment rate.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
One Eyed Blindeer Boy is predicting it as well...
The fact I was an RM2 escapes you obviously, and what that implies. Badeye posted on 2007-01-30 16:42:29 ET Reply Trace You people may be correct in directing criticism toward this organization. The people on the so-called right who want smaller government and a return to the Constitution are being marginalized and co-opted right before our eyes. CPAC is just one vehicle to do it. What's left of the fledgling Tea Party movement in '10 and '12 will either find itself in the republican party or completely discredited by our so-called friends in right-wing media and talk radio. So - you can fault some on the movement for their political naivete - but why do you continue to impugn their motives? I may be the "Fool On The Hill" - but you clowns who support the Obamas, Pelosis and Reids of the world are the real fools.
Day after day, Because they're being willing tools. A full break with both political parties is needed if anything is ever going to change. Sitting back while you're being assimilated accomplishes nothing.
If that turns out to be true, then the Dems will run someone against him in 2012. My guess is that her initials will be H.C.
And nothing short of a full and complete economic collapse will bring that about. So here we are.
Day after day, Their so called purpose seems a little disingenuous as none of them seemed to care when the GOP was the one doing the robbing of freedoms. Also at least the tea partyers I have talked too are pretty gung ho on the ME wars. Wars neither officially declared nor directly dealing with 14 Saudi planejackers and their supposed Saudi Arabian family dynasty boss.
Sadly, getting mired in foreign quagmires is not only a GOP/right wing thing. See LBJ/Vietnam or Clinton/Kosovo. And how's that Zero getting us out of Iraq thing going?
Day after day, THIS particular tea-partyier was against going into Iraq, but I can't speak for others. I suspect opinions run the spectrum. Sadly, getting mired in foreign quagmires is not only a GOP/right wing thing. See LBJ/Vietnam or Clinton/Kosovo. You really think they went out and voted Democrat? lolol We are not in Vietnam and Kosovo was a minor skirmish compare to the current two major war fronts. He's following the Bush/neocon war line to a T as he was meant to.
You really think they went out and voted Democrat? lolol Well SOMEBODY did . . . didn't they? It's not rocket science. You said "no one criticized Bush and the GOP when blah blah blah blah." I pointed out to you that you were in error, because the criticism took the form of Bush's record low approval ratings and the GOP losing Congress. All it takes is - the hardcore base staying home, the "independents" breaking to the Demwits, and the demwit base turning out.
Day after day, PPP put out a poll yesterday showing Obama still beating Huckabee, Palin, Romney or Thume. Palin fares worst of the top 3. If Badeye and Cheney are predicting something, it's a safe bet that the opposite will be true.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
Sadly, getting mired in foreign quagmires is not only a GOP/right wing thing. See LBJ/Vietnam or Clinton/Kosovo. Bombing Iran seems to be quite popular with the tea party crowd right now.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
And this tends to happen during the terms of most two term pres's of either party. Bush was luckier in that it occured during his second term. Which probably would be construed by you as him being actually quite popular.
To the extent that "the tea party crowd" is for a smaller, constitutionally limited government - I'm with them. To the extent that they want to engage in un-Constitutional wars, I'm not.
Day after day, I have several active tea partiers in my family who absolutely cannot wait for this. And they actually seem to be gung ho Israel firsters. I keep asking them where in the constitution are the articles about fighting preemptive wars and the putting the needs of another country first.
I cannot prove this, of course, but my opinion is that Bush's popularity was skewed by 9/11. The GOPs gains in the '02 elections were certainly affected. I believe if it hadn't been for 9/11, Bush would have been a one-termer.
Day after day, I believe if it hadn't been for 9/11, Bush would have been a one-termer. Without 911 he would have gotten his amnesty bill passed.
It's all speculation, but he certainly would have had fewer GOPers in the House and Senate. So in that regard, you're probably right. And that would have made him even LESS popular with the base.
Day after day, Had the Democrats found someone better than John Kerry he would have been a one termer as well, and Kerry almost beat him.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
Pawlenty took the stage at CPAC at 10 a.m. at the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel, an hour before Woods was scheduled to address media for the first time since news of his affairs broke. He told the audience in attendance: "Tiger Woods is holding his press conference at 11 o'clock Eastern. Now, I think we can learn a lot from that situation--not from Tiger, but from his wife. So she said, 'I've had enough." She said, 'No more.' "I think we should take a page out of her playbook and take a nine iron and smash the window out of big government in this country," Pawlenty said, to audience applause. "We've had enough." Woods's scandal, memorably, began when his wife bashed the window of his SUV outside his home, resulting in a crash. Pawlenty, a contender for the GOP presidential nomination in 2012, addressed CPAC this morning as one of its big-name speakers. Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
So do I.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect Pawlenty is not in the small government, follow-the-Constitution camp. Like I posted earlier, we're witnessing an attempt by the repugs to co-opt the rage represented by the tea party movement. Zero's so bad and the dims are such a failure, it's likely they'll succeed.
Day after day, So do I. I don't think it was entirely due to 911 but with the two subsequent wars and the need in the public's mind to maintain a continuum. I believe even without 911 we would have found a reason to invade (at least) Iraq.
To make it easier for you..... there is only one of those in the GOP and maybe one other.
See the tagline. And except for the 06 election cycle I've been 100% accurate in election results. I also predicted at LP in 2004 Obama would be the 2008 Presidential nominee. My anti groupie spent quite a bit of time mocking that observation the days after his DNC keynote address. IN January of 2008, I predicted Obama would beat Clinton in the primaries, that McCain would be the GOP nominee, and that Obama would win easily. My anti groupie searched that database recently, and decided not to mention it. Fact is, my track record on this exceeds anything you two kool aid drinkers have ever come up with COMBINED. (laughing) And its all documented.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
I also predicted at LP in 2004 Obama would be the 2008 Presidential nominee. My anti groupie spent quite a bit of time mocking that observation the days after his DNC keynote address. IN January of 2008, I predicted Obama would beat Clinton in the primaries, that McCain would be the GOP nominee, and that Obama would win easily. So will you be attending Bohemian Grove this year?
Nope.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
There's no doubt about that in my mind. It was one of his top three priorities after being elected.
Very true. If the dems had found someone better the Al Gore, Bush wouldn't even have been a one term president.
If if if.. woulda coulda shoulda Fact is Bush kicked you loser's asses twice. Deal with it chumps.
Or if Gore had demanded a statewide recount in FL instead of just the few districts he thought would be most favorable to him.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
I'm sad to admit that I voted for Bush twice. Unlike you, I learned my lesson, but then I'm not an obsessed loon.
What lesson is that? That it's better to be a fringe kook?
Considering the number of neocons pushing for it surrounding Bush, I think you're correct. Elliott Abrams, Gary Bauer, William J. Bennett, Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney, Eliot A. Cohen, Midge Decter, Paula Dobriansky, Steve Forbes, Aaron Friedberg, Francis Fukuyama, Frank Gaffney, Fred C. Ikle, Donald Kagan, Zalmay Khalilzad, I. Lewis Libby, Norman Podhoretz, Dan Quayle, Peter W. Rodman, Stephen P. Rosen, Henry S. Rowen, Donald Rumsfeld, Vin Weber, George Weigel, Paul Wolfowitz
Gore won the popular vote. Not exactly an ass kicking.
You lose = ass kicking.
Re-Invading Iraq was preordained when he was left in power in the wake of the Gulf War. It was a serious error in judgement made by Cold Warriors trained to believe in 'containment' which was as we all know today a viable and winning strategy throughout the Cold War. The problem was Bush 41's advisors were fighting the proverbial 'last war'. While it produced a stunning 100 hour victory over what was then the 4th largest army in the world...it caused a horrific 'end game' that allowed Saddam and Son's to not just remain in power, but to use helicopters to slaughter many ethnic groups within Iraq, not just the Kurds. JMHO.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
Okay. What I would call a win by the skin of your teeth, you call an ass kicking - good to know.
Not to mention Poppy's proclamation to the Iraqis to rise up and overthrow Saddam as if he was going to offer help. Then he just abandoned them.
What does it matter to you? You end up voting republican anyway...
The fact I was an RM2 escapes you obviously, and what that implies. Badeye posted on 2007-01-30 16:42:29 ET Reply Trace An obsessed loon is in no position to characterize anybody. BTW Eric, what exactly is it you do for a living? Are you a Captain of Industry like Badeye so you're free to post at multiple sites 12+ hours a day?
Whether wise or not, the narrow, stated purpose was to liberate Kuwait, not invade Iraq. As for the "horrific end game", slaughter and the suffering of the Iraqi people was a-ok when Saddam was warring with Iran and Reagan gifted him with a pair of gold spurs (oh why do they hate us).
Both wars will go down in history as the two biggest foreign pollict blunders ever. Like Father...like Boy Blunder...
The fact I was an RM2 escapes you obviously, and what that implies. Badeye posted on 2007-01-30 16:42:29 ET Reply Trace Who is Eric?
There have been populist movements in this nation going back to the Whiskey Rebellion, which, in my mind, would have been a better analogy than the Tea Party which, if it had a modern day equivalent, it would be the Latin Kings trashing a Marijuana Club...
The fact I was an RM2 escapes you obviously, and what that implies. Badeye posted on 2007-01-30 16:42:29 ET Reply Trace Yea well...he predicted that McCain would NOT he the 2008 nominee and that Lieberman, 2004, would be...he also predicted that Newt would run in 2008 that Hillary would NOT run in 2008 and in 2006 he predicted not 48 hours before the election - in clear opposition to the polls - that the GOP would lose only a couple seats in both chambers... He's also given us such gems as McVeigh wasn't political, which has to be one of the Top Three stupidest things that I have ever read during my 15 years of web surfing...
The fact I was an RM2 escapes you obviously, and what that implies. Badeye posted on 2007-01-30 16:42:29 ET Reply Trace BTW Eric, what exactly is it you do for a living? Other than eat bananas and pose as a monkey that is.
Thank you captain obvious...(eyes rolling) to the first assertion. The second is just a flat out lie. Nobody was 'a okay' with it. Third, the Iraqi people don't 'hate us'.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
Yep.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
Odd, we would pursue a war by proxy, allying ourselves with a dictator while no one was okay with it. What a strange people we are. Third, the Iraqi people don't 'hate us'. Yes, that's why they greeted us with hugs, kisses and flowers.
What you originally said was a lie. Now you try to change the meaning of what you posted, after being called on it. The average Iraqi did in fact greet us as liberators.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
whatever
Wise choice.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
So Democrats have now won 3 of the last 5 presidential elections and won the popular vote in 4 of the last 5. You are celebrating this?
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
Again, repeating the same lie over and over again doesn't make it true. And here's video of "how they greeted us as liberators" http://www.spike.com/video/rock-throwing-iraqi/2801514
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
Afuckingmazing...
The fact I was an RM2 escapes you obviously, and what that implies. Badeye posted on 2007-01-30 16:42:29 ET Reply Trace Dude...he held out hope that the WMD's would be found for as long as possible...then when it was obvious that they weren't going to be found, he did the old "Saddam wasn't an imminent threat" pre-emption pf a later threat two step...
The fact I was an RM2 escapes you obviously, and what that implies. Badeye posted on 2007-01-30 16:42:29 ET Reply Trace there were lots of video shot in a war torn country of 17 million, most of them living in fear like a dog that had been beaten too long. I'm unaware of any war in history that involved taking a huge city street by street that didn't have some incidents. But most of us witnessed live the tearing down of thst statue. And how the people rejoiced. Your side has its own weird reality. Couple of years ago your leaders said 'the war is lost'. They were wrong, GO65. Its okay, eventually you'll have to admit it.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
The previous stated, GO65, you personally know how frustrated and upset I was with how Iraq was handled after we literally took control...a nd then lost control beetween 05 and 06. You and I talked about it at LP actually. I didn't believe in the wake of the 06 asskicking Bush would change the ROE and wanted our troops home. Bush did the right thing there, the problem was he waited 24 months too long.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
The moment of the statie coming down...
The fact I was an RM2 escapes you obviously, and what that implies. Badeye posted on 2007-01-30 16:42:29 ET Reply Trace That was debunked so long ago I can't believe you still think its true. According to a poll in 2004, Iraqis were pretty much agreed on one thing, they wanted us OUT. May 13, 2004 Four out of five Iraqis report holding a negative view of the U.S. occupation authority and of coalition forces, according to a new poll conducted for the occupation authority. In the poll, 80 percent of Iraqis surveyed reported a lack of confidence in the Coalition Provisional Authority, and 82 percent said they disapprove of the United States and allied militaries in Iraq.
How does one 'debunk' a video shot over three hours time? We won the war.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
ROFLMAO...by pointing out that it was all shot in close up without a single wide angle shot...
The fact I was an RM2 escapes you obviously, and what that implies. Badeye posted on 2007-01-30 16:42:29 ET Reply Trace
#2. To: All (#0)
Jason Mattera of the Young America's Foundation, declared that: "Our notion of freedom doesn't consist of snorting cocaine, which distinguishes us from Barack Obama."
Later, he added: "On the cocaine front I do believe many young people in America view Barack in the same fashion they view drugs: it was a substance to experiment with."
#3. To: Fred Mertz, War, Sneakypete (#2)
#4. To: go65 (#2)
"Our notion of freedom doesn't consist of snorting cocaine, which distinguishes us from Barack Obama."
#5. To: go65 (#0)
#6. To: Fred Mertz (#5)
How much did it cost to attend?
#7. To: Skip Intro, Fred Mertz, War, Sneakypete, dont eat that, badeye (#6)
#8. To: go65 (#7)
#9. To: go65 (#7)
#10. To: go65, war, Skip Intro, Fred Mertz (#0)
Alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,
But the fool on the hill
#11. To: The Fool On The Hill (#10)
So - you can fault some on the movement for their political naivete - but why do you continue to impugn their motives?
#12. To: go65 (#7)
Cheney suggests yesterday that Obama's presidency is in last throes
#13. To: Skip Intro (#11)
A full break with both political parties is needed if anything is ever going to change.
Alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,
But the fool on the hill
#14. To: The Fool On The Hill (#10)
(Edited)
You people may be correct in directing criticism toward this organization. The people on the so-called right who want smaller government and a return to the Constitution are being marginalized and co-opted right before our eyes. CPAC is just one vehicle to do it.
#15. To: mininggold (#14)
The so called purpose seems a little disingenuous as none of them seemed to care when the GOP was the one doing the robbing of freedoms.
None of them? That seems a little broad. Bush's record low approval ratings and the fact the GOP lost Congress in '06 would seem to belie that "fact." Also at least the tea partyers I have talked too are pretty gung ho on the ME wars. Wars neither officially declared nor directly dealing with 14 Saudi planejackers and their supposed Saudi Arabian family dynasty boss.
THIS particular tea-partyier was against going into Iraq, but I can't speak for others. I suspect opinions run the spectrum.
Alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,
But the fool on the hill
#16. To: The Fool On The Hill (#15)
.....fact the GOP lost Congress in '06 would seem to belie that "fact."
#17. To: mininggold (#16)
....fact the GOP lost Congress in '06 would seem to belie that "fact."
Alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,
But the fool on the hill
#18. To: war, badeye (#9)
One Eyed Blindeer Boy is predicting it as well...
#19. To: The Fool On The Hill (#15)
THIS particular tea-partyier was against going into Iraq, but I can't speak for others. I suspect opinions run the spectrum.
#20. To: The Fool On The Hill (#17)
the criticism took the form of Bush's record low approval ratings and the GOP losing Congres
#21. To: go65 (#19)
Bombing Iran seems to be quite popular with the tea party crowd right now.
Alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,
But the fool on the hill
#22. To: go65 (#19)
Bombing Iran seems to be quite popular with the tea party crowd right now.
#23. To: mininggold (#20)
Bush was luckier in that it occured during his second term. Which probably would be construed by you as him being actually quite popular.
Alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,
But the fool on the hill
#24. To: The Fool On The Hill (#23)
I cannot prove this, of course, but my opinion is that Bush's popularity was skewed by 9/11. The GOPs gains in the '02 elections were certainly affected.
#25. To: mininggold (#24)
Without 911 he would have gotten his amnesty bill passed.
Alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,
But the fool on the hill
#26. To: The Fool On The Hill (#23)
I believe if it hadn't been for 9/11, Bush would have been a one-termer.
#27. To: The Fool On The Hill, miningold, war, fred mertz, sneakypete, (#25)
Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R) told the audience at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) this morning in Washington, DC that the American public should take a lesson from Tiger Woods' jilted wife, Elin, and tell the Democratic Congress and administration it's had enough.
#28. To: The Fool On The Hill (#23)
I believe if it hadn't been for 9/11, Bush would have been a one-termer.
#29. To: go65 (#27)
"I think we should take a page out of her playbook and take a nine iron and smash the window out of big government in this country," Pawlenty said, to audience applause. "We've had enough."
Alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,
But the fool on the hill
#30. To: lucysmom (#28)
I believe if it hadn't been for 9/11, Bush would have been a one-termer.
#31. To: The Fool On The Hill (#29)
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect Pawlenty is not in the small government, follow-the-Constitution camp.
#32. To: go65 (#18)
#33. To: Badeye (#32)
See the tagline. And except for the 06 election cycle I've been 100% accurate in election results.
#34. To: mininggold (#33)
#35. To: mininggold (#24)
Without 911 he would have gotten his amnesty bill passed.
#36. To: go65 (#26)
Had the Democrats found someone better than John Kerry he would have been a one termer as well, and Kerry almost beat him.
#37. To: Skip Intro (#36)
If the dems...
#38. To: Skip Intro (#36)
Very true. If the dems had found someone better the Al Gore, Bush wouldn't even have been a one term president.
#39. To: dont eat that (#37)
#40. To: Skip Intro (#39)
Unlike you, I learned my lesson
#41. To: mininggold (#30)
I believe even without 911 we would have found a reason to invade (at least) Iraq.
#42. To: dont eat that (#37)
Fact is Bush kicked you loser's asses twice. Deal with it chumps.
#43. To: lucysmom (#42)
Gore won the popular vote. Not exactly an ass kicking.
#44. To: lucysmom (#41)
#45. To: dont eat that (#43)
You lose = ass kicking.
#46. To: Badeye (#44)
Re-Invading Iraq was preordained when he was left in power in the wake of the Gulf War. It was a serious error in judgement
#47. To: Client 9 (#29)
(Edited)
Like I posted earlier, we're witnessing an attempt by the repugs to co-opt the rage represented by the tea party movement.
#48. To: dont eat that (#40)
#49. To: Badeye (#44)
While it produced a stunning 100 hour victory over what was then the 4th largest army in the world...it caused a horrific 'end game' that allowed Saddam and Son's to not just remain in power, but to use helicopters to slaughter many ethnic groups within Iraq, not just the Kurds.
#50. To: lucysmom (#49)
(Edited)
#51. To: Skip Intro (#48)
#52. To: The Fool On The Hill (#10)
(Edited)
#53. To: go65, Badeye (#18)
#54. To: dont eat that (#51)
#55. To: lucysmom (#49)
#56. To: dont eat that (#46)
#57. To: Badeye (#55)
The second is just a flat out lie. Nobody was 'a okay' with it.
#58. To: lucysmom (#57)
#59. To: Badeye (#58)
#60. To: lucysmom (#59)
#61. To: dont eat that (#43)
You lose = ass kicking.
#62. To: Badeye, lucysmom (#58)
(Edited)
The average Iraqi did in fact greet us as liberators.
Tuesday, April 29, 2003 Posted: 2325 GMT ( 7:25 AM HKT)
FALLUJAH, Iraq (CNN) -- At least 15 Iraqi civilians were killed and 53 injured during a clash with U.S. troops in the town of Fallujah, Red Cross officials said Tuesday.
The clash began at around 10 p.m. Monday when up to 250 demonstrators approached members of the U.S. Army's 82nd Airborne Division, based at an elementary school, demanding they leave so classes could resume, an Iraqi telecommunications engineer said.
#63. To: Badeye (#58)
The average Iraqi did in fact greet us as liberators.
#64. To: go65 (#62)
(Edited)
#65. To: go65 (#62)
#66. To: All (#65)
#67. To: Badeye (#65)
But most of us witnessed live the tearing down of thst statue. And how the people rejoiced.
#68. To: Badeye (#65)
But most of us witnessed live the tearing down of thst statue. And how the people rejoiced.
#69. To: lucysmom (#68)
#70. To: Badeye, lucysmom (#69)
How does one 'debunk' a video shot over three hours time?
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