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Published: Feb 18, 2010
Author: Me
Post Date: 2010-02-18 17:49:55 by go65
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CPAC is in full swing, a few highlights so far:
- speakers reading jokes off teleprompters that make fun of Obama's use of a teleprompter
- Mitt Romney pretending he's a conservative
- Scott Brown pretending he's a conservative
- Attendees praising the service they are getting from unionized staff
- And then there's this (NSFW) http://alturl.com/bix8
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Bombing Iran seems to be quite popular with the tea party crowd right now.
To the extent that "the tea party crowd" is for a smaller, constitutionally limited government - I'm with them.
To the extent that they want to engage in un-Constitutional wars, I'm not.
Day after day,
Alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,
But the fool on the hill
#22. To: go65 (#19)
Bombing Iran seems to be quite popular with the tea party crowd right now.
I have several active tea partiers in my family who absolutely cannot wait for this. And they actually seem to be gung ho Israel firsters. I keep asking them where in the constitution are the articles about fighting preemptive wars and the putting the needs of another country first.
#23. To: mininggold (#20)
Bush was luckier in that it occured during his second term. Which probably would be construed by you as him being actually quite popular.
I cannot prove this, of course, but my opinion is that Bush's popularity was skewed by 9/11. The GOPs gains in the '02 elections were certainly affected.
I believe if it hadn't been for 9/11, Bush would have been a one-termer.
Day after day,
Alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,
But the fool on the hill
#24. To: The Fool On The Hill (#23)
I cannot prove this, of course, but my opinion is that Bush's popularity was skewed by 9/11. The GOPs gains in the '02 elections were certainly affected.I believe if it hadn't been for 9/11, Bush would have been a one-termer.
Without 911 he would have gotten his amnesty bill passed.
#25. To: mininggold (#24)
Without 911 he would have gotten his amnesty bill passed.
It's all speculation, but he certainly would have had fewer GOPers in the House and Senate. So in that regard, you're probably right.
And that would have made him even LESS popular with the base.
Day after day,
Alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,
But the fool on the hill
#26. To: The Fool On The Hill (#23)
I believe if it hadn't been for 9/11, Bush would have been a one-termer.
Had the Democrats found someone better than John Kerry he would have been a one termer as well, and Kerry almost beat him.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
#27. To: The Fool On The Hill, miningold, war, fred mertz, sneakypete, (#25)
Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R) told the audience at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) this morning in Washington, DC that the American public should take a lesson from Tiger Woods' jilted wife, Elin, and tell the Democratic Congress and administration it's had enough.Pawlenty took the stage at CPAC at 10 a.m. at the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel, an hour before Woods was scheduled to address media for the first time since news of his affairs broke.
He told the audience in attendance: "Tiger Woods is holding his press conference at 11 o'clock Eastern. Now, I think we can learn a lot from that situation--not from Tiger, but from his wife. So she said, 'I've had enough." She said, 'No more.' "I think we should take a page out of her playbook and take a nine iron and smash the window out of big government in this country," Pawlenty said, to audience applause. "We've had enough."
Woods's scandal, memorably, began when his wife bashed the window of his SUV outside his home, resulting in a crash. Pawlenty, a contender for the GOP presidential nomination in 2012, addressed CPAC this morning as one of its big-name speakers.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
#28. To: The Fool On The Hill (#23)
I believe if it hadn't been for 9/11, Bush would have been a one-termer.
So do I.
#29. To: go65 (#27)
"I think we should take a page out of her playbook and take a nine iron and smash the window out of big government in this country," Pawlenty said, to audience applause. "We've had enough."
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect Pawlenty is not in the small government, follow-the-Constitution camp.
Like I posted earlier, we're witnessing an attempt by the repugs to co-opt the rage represented by the tea party movement.
Zero's so bad and the dims are such a failure, it's likely they'll succeed.
Day after day,
Alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see that he's just a fool,
And he never gives an answer,
But the fool on the hill
#30. To: lucysmom (#28)
I believe if it hadn't been for 9/11, Bush would have been a one-termer.So do I.
I don't think it was entirely due to 911 but with the two subsequent wars and the need in the public's mind to maintain a continuum. I believe even without 911 we would have found a reason to invade (at least) Iraq.
#31. To: The Fool On The Hill (#29)
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect Pawlenty is not in the small government, follow-the-Constitution camp.
To make it easier for you..... there is only one of those in the GOP and maybe one other.
#32. To: go65 (#18)
See the tagline. And except for the 06 election cycle I've been 100% accurate in election results.
I also predicted at LP in 2004 Obama would be the 2008 Presidential nominee. My anti groupie spent quite a bit of time mocking that observation the days after his DNC keynote address.
IN January of 2008, I predicted Obama would beat Clinton in the primaries, that McCain would be the GOP nominee, and that Obama would win easily.
My anti groupie searched that database recently, and decided not to mention it.
Fact is, my track record on this exceeds anything you two kool aid drinkers have ever come up with COMBINED.
(laughing) And its all documented.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
#33. To: Badeye (#32)
See the tagline. And except for the 06 election cycle I've been 100% accurate in election results.I also predicted at LP in 2004 Obama would be the 2008 Presidential nominee. My anti groupie spent quite a bit of time mocking that observation the days after his DNC keynote address.
IN January of 2008, I predicted Obama would beat Clinton in the primaries, that McCain would be the GOP nominee, and that Obama would win easily.
So will you be attending Bohemian Grove this year?
#34. To: mininggold (#33)
Nope.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
#35. To: mininggold (#24)
Without 911 he would have gotten his amnesty bill passed.
There's no doubt about that in my mind. It was one of his top three priorities after being elected.
#36. To: go65 (#26)
Had the Democrats found someone better than John Kerry he would have been a one termer as well, and Kerry almost beat him.
Very true. If the dems had found someone better the Al Gore, Bush wouldn't even have been a one term president.
#37. To: Skip Intro (#36)
If the dems...
If if if..
woulda coulda shoulda
Fact is Bush kicked you loser's asses twice. Deal with it chumps.
#38. To: Skip Intro (#36)
Very true. If the dems had found someone better the Al Gore, Bush wouldn't even have been a one term president.
Or if Gore had demanded a statewide recount in FL instead of just the few districts he thought would be most favorable to him.
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
#39. To: dont eat that (#37)
I'm sad to admit that I voted for Bush twice. Unlike you, I learned my lesson, but then I'm not an obsessed loon.
#40. To: Skip Intro (#39)
Unlike you, I learned my lesson
What lesson is that? That it's better to be a fringe kook?
#41. To: mininggold (#30)
I believe even without 911 we would have found a reason to invade (at least) Iraq.
Considering the number of neocons pushing for it surrounding Bush, I think you're correct.
Elliott Abrams, Gary Bauer, William J. Bennett, Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney, Eliot A. Cohen, Midge Decter, Paula Dobriansky, Steve Forbes, Aaron Friedberg, Francis Fukuyama, Frank Gaffney, Fred C. Ikle, Donald Kagan, Zalmay Khalilzad, I. Lewis Libby, Norman Podhoretz, Dan Quayle, Peter W. Rodman, Stephen P. Rosen, Henry S. Rowen, Donald Rumsfeld, Vin Weber, George Weigel, Paul Wolfowitz
#42. To: dont eat that (#37)
Fact is Bush kicked you loser's asses twice. Deal with it chumps.
Gore won the popular vote. Not exactly an ass kicking.
#43. To: lucysmom (#42)
Gore won the popular vote. Not exactly an ass kicking.
You lose = ass kicking.
#44. To: lucysmom (#41)
Re-Invading Iraq was preordained when he was left in power in the wake of the Gulf War. It was a serious error in judgement made by Cold Warriors trained to believe in 'containment' which was as we all know today a viable and winning strategy throughout the Cold War.
The problem was Bush 41's advisors were fighting the proverbial 'last war'. While it produced a stunning 100 hour victory over what was then the 4th largest army in the world...it caused a horrific 'end game' that allowed Saddam and Son's to not just remain in power, but to use helicopters to slaughter many ethnic groups within Iraq, not just the Kurds.
JMHO.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
#45. To: dont eat that (#43)
You lose = ass kicking.
Okay. What I would call a win by the skin of your teeth, you call an ass kicking - good to know.
#46. To: Badeye (#44)
Re-Invading Iraq was preordained when he was left in power in the wake of the Gulf War. It was a serious error in judgement
Not to mention Poppy's proclamation to the Iraqis to rise up and overthrow Saddam as if he was going to offer help. Then he just abandoned them.
#47. To: Client 9 (#29) (Edited)
Like I posted earlier, we're witnessing an attempt by the repugs to co-opt the rage represented by the tea party movement.
What does it matter to you? You end up voting republican anyway...
The fact I was an RM2 escapes you obviously, and what that implies.
Badeye posted on 2007-01-30 16:42:29 ET Reply Trace
#48. To: dont eat that (#40)
An obsessed loon is in no position to characterize anybody.
BTW Eric, what exactly is it you do for a living? Are you a Captain of Industry like Badeye so you're free to post at multiple sites 12+ hours a day?
#49. To: Badeye (#44)
While it produced a stunning 100 hour victory over what was then the 4th largest army in the world...it caused a horrific 'end game' that allowed Saddam and Son's to not just remain in power, but to use helicopters to slaughter many ethnic groups within Iraq, not just the Kurds.
Whether wise or not, the narrow, stated purpose was to liberate Kuwait, not invade Iraq.
As for the "horrific end game", slaughter and the suffering of the Iraqi people was a-ok when Saddam was warring with Iran and Reagan gifted him with a pair of gold spurs (oh why do they hate us).
#50. To: lucysmom (#49) (Edited)
Both wars will go down in history as the two biggest foreign pollict blunders ever. Like Father...like Boy Blunder...
The fact I was an RM2 escapes you obviously, and what that implies.
Badeye posted on 2007-01-30 16:42:29 ET Reply Trace
#51. To: Skip Intro (#48)
Who is Eric?
#52. To: The Fool On The Hill (#10) (Edited)
There have been populist movements in this nation going back to the Whiskey Rebellion, which, in my mind, would have been a better analogy than the Tea Party which, if it had a modern day equivalent, it would be the Latin Kings trashing a Marijuana Club...
The fact I was an RM2 escapes you obviously, and what that implies.
Badeye posted on 2007-01-30 16:42:29 ET Reply Trace
#53. To: go65, Badeye (#18)
Yea well...he predicted that McCain would NOT he the 2008 nominee and that Lieberman, 2004, would be...he also predicted that Newt would run in 2008 that Hillary would NOT run in 2008 and in 2006 he predicted not 48 hours before the election - in clear opposition to the polls - that the GOP would lose only a couple seats in both chambers...
He's also given us such gems as McVeigh wasn't political, which has to be one of the Top Three stupidest things that I have ever read during my 15 years of web surfing...
The fact I was an RM2 escapes you obviously, and what that implies.
Badeye posted on 2007-01-30 16:42:29 ET Reply Trace
#54. To: dont eat that (#51)
BTW Eric, what exactly is it you do for a living? Other than eat bananas and pose as a monkey that is.
#55. To: lucysmom (#49)
Thank you captain obvious...(eyes rolling) to the first assertion.
The second is just a flat out lie. Nobody was 'a okay' with it.
Third, the Iraqi people don't 'hate us'.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
#56. To: dont eat that (#46)
Yep.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
#57. To: Badeye (#55)
The second is just a flat out lie. Nobody was 'a okay' with it.
Odd, we would pursue a war by proxy, allying ourselves with a dictator while no one was okay with it. What a strange people we are.
Third, the Iraqi people don't 'hate us'.
Yes, that's why they greeted us with hugs, kisses and flowers.
#58. To: lucysmom (#57)
What you originally said was a lie. Now you try to change the meaning of what you posted, after being called on it.
The average Iraqi did in fact greet us as liberators.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
#59. To: Badeye (#58)
whatever
#60. To: lucysmom (#59)
Wise choice.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
#61. To: dont eat that (#43)
You lose = ass kicking.
So Democrats have now won 3 of the last 5 presidential elections and won the popular vote in 4 of the last 5.
You are celebrating this?
Being a Republican means you get to choose your own reality.
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