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Published: Feb 18, 2010
Author: Me
Post Date: 2010-02-18 17:49:55 by go65
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Views: 24911
Comments: 70

CPAC is in full swing, a few highlights so far:

- speakers reading jokes off teleprompters that make fun of Obama's use of a teleprompter

- Mitt Romney pretending he's a conservative

- Scott Brown pretending he's a conservative

- Attendees praising the service they are getting from unionized staff

- And then there's this (NSFW) http://alturl.com/bix8

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#10. To: go65, war, Skip Intro, Fred Mertz (#0)

You people may be correct in directing criticism toward this organization. The people on the so-called right who want smaller government and a return to the Constitution are being marginalized and co-opted right before our eyes. CPAC is just one vehicle to do it.

What's left of the fledgling Tea Party movement in '10 and '12 will either find itself in the republican party or completely discredited by our so-called friends in right-wing media and talk radio.

So - you can fault some on the movement for their political naivete - but why do you continue to impugn their motives?

I may be the "Fool On The Hill" - but you clowns who support the Obamas, Pelosis and Reids of the world are the real fools.

The Fool On The Hill  posted on  2010-02-19   10:55:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: The Fool On The Hill (#10) (Edited)

You people may be correct in directing criticism toward this organization. The people on the so-called right who want smaller government and a return to the Constitution are being marginalized and co-opted right before our eyes. CPAC is just one vehicle to do it.

Their so called purpose seems a little disingenuous as none of them seemed to care when the GOP was the one doing the robbing of freedoms. Also at least the tea partyers I have talked too are pretty gung ho on the ME wars. Wars neither officially declared nor directly dealing with 14 Saudi planejackers and their supposed Saudi Arabian family dynasty boss.

mininggold  posted on  2010-02-19   11:33:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mininggold (#14)

The so called purpose seems a little disingenuous as none of them seemed to care when the GOP was the one doing the robbing of freedoms.
None of them? That seems a little broad. Bush's record low approval ratings and the fact the GOP lost Congress in '06 would seem to belie that "fact."
Also at least the tea partyers I have talked too are pretty gung ho on the ME wars. Wars neither officially declared nor directly dealing with 14 Saudi planejackers and their supposed Saudi Arabian family dynasty boss.
THIS particular tea-partyier was against going into Iraq, but I can't speak for others. I suspect opinions run the spectrum.

Sadly, getting mired in foreign quagmires is not only a GOP/right wing thing. See LBJ/Vietnam or Clinton/Kosovo.

And how's that Zero getting us out of Iraq thing going?

The Fool On The Hill  posted on  2010-02-19   11:42:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: The Fool On The Hill (#15)

.....fact the GOP lost Congress in '06 would seem to belie that "fact."

THIS particular tea-partyier was against going into Iraq, but I can't speak for others. I suspect opinions run the spectrum.

Sadly, getting mired in foreign quagmires is not only a GOP/right wing thing. See LBJ/Vietnam or Clinton/Kosovo.

You really think they went out and voted Democrat? lolol

We are not in Vietnam and Kosovo was a minor skirmish compare to the current two major war fronts.

He's following the Bush/neocon war line to a T as he was meant to.

mininggold  posted on  2010-02-19   11:46:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mininggold (#16)

....fact the GOP lost Congress in '06 would seem to belie that "fact."

You really think they went out and voted Democrat? lolol

Well SOMEBODY did . . . didn't they?

It's not rocket science. You said "no one criticized Bush and the GOP when blah blah blah blah."

I pointed out to you that you were in error, because the criticism took the form of Bush's record low approval ratings and the GOP losing Congress.

All it takes is - the hardcore base staying home, the "independents" breaking to the Demwits, and the demwit base turning out.

The Fool On The Hill  posted on  2010-02-19   11:54:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: The Fool On The Hill (#17)

the criticism took the form of Bush's record low approval ratings and the GOP losing Congres

And this tends to happen during the terms of most two term pres's of either party. Bush was luckier in that it occured during his second term. Which probably would be construed by you as him being actually quite popular.

mininggold  posted on  2010-02-19   12:09:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mininggold (#20)

Bush was luckier in that it occured during his second term. Which probably would be construed by you as him being actually quite popular.

I cannot prove this, of course, but my opinion is that Bush's popularity was skewed by 9/11. The GOPs gains in the '02 elections were certainly affected.

I believe if it hadn't been for 9/11, Bush would have been a one-termer.

The Fool On The Hill  posted on  2010-02-19   12:16:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: The Fool On The Hill (#23)

I cannot prove this, of course, but my opinion is that Bush's popularity was skewed by 9/11. The GOPs gains in the '02 elections were certainly affected.

I believe if it hadn't been for 9/11, Bush would have been a one-termer.

Without 911 he would have gotten his amnesty bill passed.

mininggold  posted on  2010-02-19   12:17:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mininggold (#24)

Without 911 he would have gotten his amnesty bill passed.

It's all speculation, but he certainly would have had fewer GOPers in the House and Senate. So in that regard, you're probably right.

And that would have made him even LESS popular with the base.

The Fool On The Hill  posted on  2010-02-19   12:20:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: The Fool On The Hill, miningold, war, fred mertz, sneakypete, (#25)

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R) told the audience at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) this morning in Washington, DC that the American public should take a lesson from Tiger Woods' jilted wife, Elin, and tell the Democratic Congress and administration it's had enough.

Pawlenty took the stage at CPAC at 10 a.m. at the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel, an hour before Woods was scheduled to address media for the first time since news of his affairs broke.

He told the audience in attendance: "Tiger Woods is holding his press conference at 11 o'clock Eastern. Now, I think we can learn a lot from that situation--not from Tiger, but from his wife. So she said, 'I've had enough." She said, 'No more.' "I think we should take a page out of her playbook and take a nine iron and smash the window out of big government in this country," Pawlenty said, to audience applause. "We've had enough."

Woods's scandal, memorably, began when his wife bashed the window of his SUV outside his home, resulting in a crash. Pawlenty, a contender for the GOP presidential nomination in 2012, addressed CPAC this morning as one of its big-name speakers.

go65  posted on  2010-02-19   12:25:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: go65 (#27)

"I think we should take a page out of her playbook and take a nine iron and smash the window out of big government in this country," Pawlenty said, to audience applause. "We've had enough."

And correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect Pawlenty is not in the small government, follow-the-Constitution camp.

Like I posted earlier, we're witnessing an attempt by the repugs to co-opt the rage represented by the tea party movement.

Zero's so bad and the dims are such a failure, it's likely they'll succeed.

The Fool On The Hill  posted on  2010-02-19   12:40:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: The Fool On The Hill (#29)

And correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect Pawlenty is not in the small government, follow-the-Constitution camp.

To make it easier for you..... there is only one of those in the GOP and maybe one other.

mininggold  posted on  2010-02-19   12:46:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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