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Title: Senate recount delayed again; Karen Fann says Cyber Ninjas' count of ballots doesn't match county's
Source: Arizona Cntral
URL Source: https://www.azcentral.com/story/new ... llies-do-not-match/7958726002/
Published: Jul 13, 2021
Author: Andrew Oxford - Arizona Republic
Post Date: 2021-07-16 05:19:23 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 152
Comments: 13

Senate recount delayed again;
Karen Fann says Cyber Ninjas'
count of ballots doesn't match county's

By Andrew Oxford

The Arizona Senate’s effort to do its own check on the number of ballots cast in Maricopa County’s 2020 general election is not expected to begin until Wednesday in the latest turn for an unprecedented and controversial audit that has dragged on for 12 weeks.

And the recount — which will be the third tally of the ballots — got a new element of drama on Tuesday after Senate President Karen Fann told a radio show host that the companies hired by the Legislature to review the election results had come up with a different number of ballots than Maricopa County officials.

“They haven’t released a number yet. However, we do know those numbers do not match with Maricopa County at this point,” Fann, R-Prescott, told Mike Broomhead on his KTAR program.

Fann said the Senate will count the number of ballots, not how each ballot was voted, to again check how many were cast.

If the third tally produces yet another number, that is likely to only heighten criticism of a process many election officials have maintained is unreliable and open to error.

Outside observers have raised concerns that the processes used by the Senate’s contractors depart entirely from the state’s existing procedures for auditing election results by hand, and critics have questioned the qualifications of the companies.

Observers from the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office reported in June, for example, that they witnessed a table of workers count a stack of ballots. The workers counted 24 ballots while another count had tallied 25 ballots.

“In a credible audit, the batch would have been recounted. Instead, the table manager said she thought she found the 25th ballot stuck to another ballot and proceeded without recounting the batch,” the observers reported.

While counting was supposed to begin Tuesday, spokesman Randy Pullen said officials were still setting up equipment and running tests, which pushed the start of the effort to Wednesday.

That coincides with the last day of the Senate’s extended lease on part of the state fairgrounds in Phoenix, where it has stored voters’ 2.1 million ballots.

The Senate moved into an exhibition building at the site earlier this month after using the Veterans Memorial Coliseum since late April but had agreed to vacate the premises entirely by 5 p.m. on July 14.

The Senate purchased counting machines that will run at a rate of about nine minutes per box of ballots. There are 1,681 boxes, although they don't all hold identical numbers of ballots.

Pullen said the Senate was working on an extension of about two weeks.

The Senate did not file an application to use any of the space, overseen by a state board headed by the former chairman of the state Republican Party, but it agreed to pay the actual costs of utilities for the spaces it was using.

Fairgrounds officials said they have not yet billed the Senate for any of its costs.


Poster Comment:

Experts say: "The latest wrinkle in this election review defies accepted standards for an audit."

Pullen said: "The numbers, in reality, are never going match. That's just reality. That's life.

Then: GIVE IT UP - ALREADY ...

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#1. To: BorisY, and Everyone (#0)

And so it goes, the Arizona GOP fraud fantasies live on – and ON and ON and ON – inside Arizona’s election prolonged audit.

They continue to act like BoriShitz.

In that, they didn’t get it right – but “hang around” only to bitch about what they “see” as being conjecturally wrong.

Gatlin  posted on  2021-07-16   5:47:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Gatloon (#1)

For now, newspeak dominates only among the people who won’t look any further.

The rest of us?

We will continue to read multiple sources, ferret out what’s actually happening, separate the wheat from the chaff, and ignore stories that rely on anonymous sources and alleged spokespersons, and strive to learn what is true.

What is true at this moment is ... that Trump won in Arizona --- his electoral votes were given to Biden, and other state’s audits are likely to reveal the same.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=63546&Disp=0

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BorisY  posted on  2021-07-16   16:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BorisY (#2)

Arizona? Georgia? Pennsylvania? Are there any States where DemRATS didn't cheat? The Party of Unchecked Corruption, today's DemocRATic Party...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2021-07-16   17:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BorisY, and Everyone (#2)

… the people who won’t look any further.

There are those people – MANY OF THEM – still looking further.

And what have they found?

Nothing – ABSOLUTELY NOTHING – of any substance that changes anything.

Trump Lost – Biden Won.

Arizona is among those looking – and …

Arizona county election officials have identified fewer than 200 cases of potential voter fraud out of more than 3 million ballots cast in last year’s presidential election.

Read that again – This time more carefully …

Arizona county election officials have identified fewer than 200 cases of potential voter fraud out of more than 3 million ballots cast in last year’s presidential election.

Did you get it this time?

Probably not …

The rest of us?

This discredits the claims of a stolen election – as the “rest of you” disbelievers continue to avoid facing reality and live in some make- believe-world.

We will continue to read multiple sources,

You say “continue” …

Show ANY source that has proven fraud would have changed the election results.

You can’t – You know that you can’t.

… ferret out what’s actually happening,

What have you “ferreted out” that has proven anything?

Nothing?

That’s right – NOTHING …

… separate the wheat from the chaff,

What “wheat have you separated from the chaff?”

Where have you shown that fraud changed the results of the election?

and ignore stories that rely on anonymous sources …

What are your sources that that are valid showing proven facts?

Name them – And provide links.

… and strive to learn what is true.

How’s that working out for you?

Not too good – Right?

Since it’s been over a half year now and you are still spewing out shit …

What is true at this moment is ... that Trump won in Arizona --- his electoral votes were given to Biden

Show proof of the “TRUTH” of which you speak – Provide links.

and other state’s audits are likely to reveal the same.

Likely – LIKELY???

“Likely” – BULLSHIT.

If this bizarre audit which has gone on for months now were to show anything – It would surely have done so by now.

It hasn’t – And it will not.

Learn to live with that – BoriShitz … …

Gatlin  posted on  2021-07-16   20:16:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Mudboy Slim, and Everyone (#3) (Edited)

Arizona? Georgia? Pennsylvania? Are there any States where DemRATS didn't cheat?

That’s a hypothetical question – The REAL QUESTION to ask is:

Are there any states where it can be PROVEN that DemRATS did cheat and changed the election results?

The answer to that, of course is – NO, absolutely NOT.

Gatlin  posted on  2021-07-16   20:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#5)

Ample proof in Arizona and Georgia. RAT-media can continue to pretend DemocRATS don't cheat, but the evidence is there to be challenged by the RATS. They'd rather ignore their blatant corruption. But the damn will burst...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2021-07-16   21:07:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Gatlin (#5)

Would the rampant cheating be PROVEN to be enough to turn the election?

Remains to be seen...but I harbor no illusions that we will see Trump back in the Oval Office prior to January 2025...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2021-07-16   21:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Mudboy Slim, and Everyone (#6)

Ample proof in Arizona and Georgia.

Saying is just saying – while proving is believing.

You are only SAYING – You show me the AMPLE PROOF and then I can believe.

Click here to read that …

Arizona counties find fewer than 200 possible voter fraud cases among 3m 2020 ballots.

Now you show me your proof where you say …

… DemRATS cheated in Arizona and caused Trump to lose the election.

Gatlin  posted on  2021-07-16   21:22:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Mudboy Slim, and Everyone (#7)

Would the rampant cheating be PROVEN to be enough to turn the election?

Remains to be seen...

Mud, that is purely “wishful thinking” – and you must admit to that, since you have no evidence to the contrary.

but I harbor no illusions that we will see Trump back in the Oval Office prior to January 2025

Oh, Dear God – I so hope that he will be.

In the meanwhile, I encourage you to get over your illusion – and spend your time and devote your effort to work towards returning Trump to office.

Gatlin  posted on  2021-07-16   21:31:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Gatlin (#9)

I expressly said I harbor NO ILLUSIONS regarding how these recounts turn out...so mission accomplished on that at least.

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2021-07-17   6:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Mudboy Slim, and Everyone (#10)

The question asked was:

Would the rampant cheating be PROVEN to be enough to turn the election?

You expressely stated at that time:

Remains to be seen...

And for clarification, you now state:

I expressly said I harbor NO ILLUSIONS regarding how these recounts turn out...so mission accomplished on that at least.

Got it.

Thanks, Mud .,..

Gatlin  posted on  2021-07-17   16:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Gatlin (#11) (Edited)

Do I believe the RATS cheated on a broad scale in the 2020 election?

Yes.

Will the various independent investigations confirm much of this rampant DemocRAT corruption?

Yes.

Will DemocRAT vote fraud be PROVEN in enough cases/volume to establish that Donald Trump did in fact win more Electoral Votes than Joe Biden in November?

Remains to be seen...

Is there any potential route you can foresee whereby Trump reassumes his seat in the Oval Office prior to January 2025?

Nope...none whatsoever...MUD

"NOW...Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!"

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2021-07-18   7:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Mudboy Slim, and Everyone (#12)

Do I believe the RATS cheated on a broad scale in the 2020 election?

Yes.

Believe definition is a state of mind in which trust is placed in something.

Your “YES” is of course – just what you “BELIEVE.”

Which naturally is a “state of mind” you are of course entitled to hold.

Will the various independent investigations confirm much of this rampant DemocRAT corruption?

Yes.

Corruption definition is fraudulent conduct especially by powerful people such as government officials.

You say there will be.

Yet, you cannot say what, where, when or how “this rampant DemocRAT corruption occurred – Right?

So, your “YES” is therefore only “wishful thinking” – Right?

Will DemocRAT vote fraud be PROVEN in enough cases/volume to establish that Donald Trump did in fact win more Electoral Votes than Joe Biden in November?

Remains to be seen...

“Hope Springs Eternal” is a proverb where people can always find a reason to hope. The phrase is a shortening of the line "Hope springs eternal in every human breast," from Alexander Pope's poem Essay on Man.

Hold onto your “eternal hope” – Mud.

For I believe that’s all you have – Unless you can share some hard facts with me.

Is there any potential route you can foresee whereby Trump reassumes his seat in the Oval Office prior to January 2025?

Nope...none whatsoever...MUD

On this – We agree.

As I believe we have already agreed that Trump can – and will – be reelected in 2024.

Hope Springs Eternal

Gatlin  posted on  2021-07-18   12:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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