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Title: It’s Important To Be Honest About What Today’s Media Actually Are
Source: the federalist
URL Source: https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/3 ... hat-todays-media-actually-are/
Published: Apr 1, 2021
Author: Mollie Hemingway
Post Date: 2021-04-01 01:31:53 by tankumo
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Views: 39
Comments: 3

(Some may disagree with me, but I call this one form of election fraud).

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#1. To: tankumo, abd Everyone (#0)

Title: It’s Important To Be Honest About What Today’s Media Actually Are

This is an excellent article by Mollie Hemingway.

Who is Mollie Hemingway.

Mollie Hemingway is an American conservative author, columnist and political commentator. She is a senior editor at the online magazine The Federalist and a contributor for Fox News.

I respect and admire Mollie Hemingway. I have never found a reason to disagree with any of her comments and I can find no reason to disagree with anything she said in this excellent article. I definitely agree with Mollie when she said:

The term for people who lobby for Democrat policies in this clumsy of a manner is “Democrat activists in the propaganda field,”

While Millie never actually said that today’s media are Democrat activists and propagandists – I will do so because that is what the media, in the most part, have shown themselves to be. They once again stayed true to their cause with their atrocious conduct during the press conference this article was written about.

Some may disagree with me [tankumo], but I call this one form of election fraud

For someone to either disagree or agree with you, they need to fully understand: What is election fraud. So, let’s tell them what election fraud actually is:

Election fraud in terms of fraud involving the election process – involves unlawful acts by election officials or acts done by others that threaten the integrity (reliability and trustworthiness) of the election process.

For me to either disagree or agree with your premise – I need to know why you called this press conference “one form of election fraud.” I ask that you please show me the “unlawful acts” by the media during this press conference that “threatened the integrity (reliability and trustworthiness) of any election process” – since I saw none.

Chicken Little is a European folk tale with a moral in the form of a cumulative tale about a chicken who believes that the world is coming to an end. The phrase "The sky is falling!" features prominently in the story, and has passed into the English language as a common idiom indicating a hysterical or mistaken belief that disaster is imminent.

I can agree with you when you will say that “The sky is falling” on the integrity of the election process. But you constantly screaming “election fraud” without documented justification can begin to “indicate a hysterical or mistaken belief that disaster is NOT imminent” – when disaster actually is already in full progress.

Sgt. Joe Friday on Dragnet frequently implored female informants to provide "Just the facts, ma'am.” You need to be doing the same – “providing the facts.”

You and I have the same political aspirations. There are creative ways to achieve political goals, without resorting to being a “Chicken Little.”

Gatlin  posted on  2021-04-01   5:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Gatlin (#1)

Voter suppression is election fraud.

And it is done by both sides, you may disagree on this one.

When the media and pollsters intentionally up the number of Hillary or Biden by over 10 points (oversampling Democrats, etc), they try to convince GOP voters not to vote because it is hopeless.

This is one form of voter suppression, and it is a fraud.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me, I know what the media and Democrats try to do. And they will do it again and again.

If anyone cannot see Democrats and the media try to influece the election outcome, he/she must be blind.

What do you mean when you say you cannot post?

I see you post all the time.

tankumo  posted on  2021-04-01   20:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tankumo, and Everyone (#2)

Voter suppression is election fraud.

No, it is not.

Look at the definitions of each to understand why it is not:

Voter Suppression, is any legal or extralegal measure or strategy whose purpose or practical effect is to reduce voting, or registering to vote, by members of a targeted racial group, political party, or religious community.

Election fraud is illegal interference with the process of an election, either by increasing the vote share of a favored candidate, depressing the vote share of rival candidates, or both.

You can see that voter suppression and election fraud are two entirely different things.

And it is done by both sides, you may disagree on this one.

I don’t disagree that it is done by both sides.

I however still disagree with your opening thesis and I explained why by citing you the definitions of each.

When the media and pollsters intentionally up the number of Hillary or Biden by over 10 points (oversampling Democrats, etc), they try to convince GOP voters not to vote because it is hopeless.

This is one form of voter suppression, and it is a fraud.

Yes, that is one form of voter suppression.However, it is not fraud when it is done by “any legal or extralegal measure or strategy whose purpose or practical effect is to reduce voting, or registering to vote, by members of a targeted racial group, political party, or religious community.”

I don't expect everyone to agree with me …

They should never agree with you when you try to make two different things be one and the same thing – “voter suppression and election fraud.”

I know what the media and Democrats try to do.

I also know this.

And they will do it again and again.

Yes, they will do it again and again.

If anyone cannot see Democrats and the media try to influece the election outcome, he/she must be blind.

Yes, anyone who cannot see this must be blind.

If however, Democrats and the media are using any legal or extralegal measure or strategy for voter suppression – then it is not voter fraud. [See the definitions above].

What do you mean when you say you cannot post?

For you to understand this, you must first click on “Latest Comments” in the heading. You must then scroll down until you come to:

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Post Date: 2021-04-01 07:22:59 From: Gatlin To: All

You must now click on:

Full Thread

Then you will see:

Sorry: This Article does not exist!
It either does not yet exist, or has been deleted!

And you now understand what I meant when I said that I cannot post. Stone has said this is a system problem and he is aware of it.

I see you post all the time.

But you did not see post the article I tried to post.

And that is why I “improvised, adapted and overcame” by posting the article using an alternate means here.

Quite ingenious – Eh?

I thought so …

Gatlin  posted on  2021-04-02   1:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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