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Published: Apr 19, 2020
Author: Gatlin
Post Date: 2020-04-19 16:35:45 by Gatlin
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Views: 2792
Comments: 26

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Will anyone, or everyone, please be so kind as to answer 4 questions.
A “yes” or “no” is sufficeint. You may however add appropriae coments.

Question #1:

is the document at this link the exact wording of the US Constitution as ratified on June 21, 1788?
Question #2:
Is the following the exact wording of Article VI of the US Constitution as ratified on June 21, 1788?
Article VI (Article 6 - Prior Debts, National Supremacy, Oaths of Office):

1: All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

2: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

3: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Question #3:
Does Article VI Section 2 of the US Constitution as ratified on June 21, 1788 state that only: This Constitution […] shall be the supreme Law of the Land?

Or, doesArticle VI Section 2 of the US Constitution as ratified on June 21, 1788 state: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof […] shall be the supreme Law of the Land?

Question #4:
Can it be correctly stated that the “Constitution” is not sole Law of the Land, but that the Constitution and [emphasis on the word “and”] the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof […] shall be the supreme Law of the Land …
Thank you.

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#4. To: Gatlin (#0)

Yes to questions 1,2, and 4.

As to question 3, Article VI Section 2 of the US Constitution as ratified on June 21, 1788 state: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof […] shall be the supreme Law of the Land.

Why do you ask?

misterwhite  posted on  2020-04-19   18:45:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite, A K A Stone (#4)

Why do you ask?

I was in a discussion with Stone on this. He instead that only the Constitution is the Law of the Land. I factually documented a lengthy post showing him that indeed the Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof […] shall be the supreme Law of the Land.

He blew his tope like I have never seen him do before and he immediately deleted the posts and said I was only offering an opinion and then that I was stating an amendment. I tried to explain to him that I said exactly what the Article VI Section 2 had stated it verbatim. He would have no part of that. So I posted a new thread to show I was right and he immediately deleted that – still in a temper tantrum.

So, I have again posted a thread saying the same thing as I did in the one he deleted. I know that he respects your opinions, so I wanted him to see what you had to say. I hope that he will now understand what I originally stated to him was correct information.

Do I have this right, Stone? And do you now understand that the Constitution is not the “stand alone” Law of the Land. It is as the Constitution says: the Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof […] shall be the supreme Law of the Land.

Thank you for your assistance, misterwhite. I was not putting you in the middle of this, I just needed a third party fo show Stone the facts.

When I am wrong, I will quickly admit it and apologize if necessary. But when I am right, I will be persistent in showing where I am right. I have done that. It is now up to Stone if he wishes to remain in denial.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-19   19:09:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#5)

I was in a discussion with Stone on this. He instead that only the Constitution is the Law of the Land. I factually documented a lengthy post showing him that indeed the Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof […] shall be the supreme Law of the Land.

Liar. I never said only the constitution is the law of the land. I said if a law contradicted the constitution it isn't truly a law or constitutional.

For example for umpteenth time. Congress shall make no law.....

If a law contradicts that than it isn't constitutional. Since any law congress would make would be unconstitutional on its face because they are explicitly forbidden to make laws having to do with peaceful assembly and the other rights recognized in the first amendment.

But you are a pinhead or a serial liar and wont admit the truth when it smacks your ugly mug.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-04-19   19:32:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#6)

But you are a pinhead or a serial liar and wont admit the truth when it smacks your ugly mug.

You are the FASCIST PIG that deletes my posts when I show you the truth and you delete my posts to cover up your ignoarance and mistakes.

As a self-annoyed expert on the Constitution – why is it you have no snese of justice.

Oh, you would say that you do – But it must be by the rule of stone’s justice.

What am I talking about?

Your Mission Statement says: “… one feels needs to be discussed is welcome at Liberty's Flame. This site was built upon the idea of free speech so everyone is welcome to come and discuss and debate the issues on hand.

You are the perhaps the biggest LIAR I have ever cme in contact with.

You do not believe in the “idea of free speech” – You delete posts that show your ignorance and mistakes.

And that is why I call you a FASCIST PIG.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-20   3:53:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Gatlin (#11)

Your Mission Statement says: “… one feels needs to be discussed is welcome at Liberty's Flame. This site was built upon the idea of free speech so everyone is welcome to come and discuss and debate the issues on hand.

You're an asshole. You don't get to come here and lie and think I will keep your garbage posts up.

Go climb a tall ladder today and clean your gutters.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-04-20   7:43:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Your Mission Statement says: “… one feels needs to be discussed is welcome at Liberty's Flame. This site was built upon the idea of free speech so everyone is welcome to come and discuss and debate the issues on hand.

That is YOUR mission statement – Right?

Then why don’t you follow it?

You're an asshole.

Nah, you are the asshole for lying about your mission statement.

And I have repeatedly shown where you did.

You don't get to come here and lie and think I will keep your garbage posts up.

Ah. You are making the old whimpering threat again.

Translation: “If you don’t stop showing up my ignorance, I am not only going to delete your post, I am going to ban you to cover up my mistakes. “

Go climb a tall ladder today and clean your gutters.

My penthouse has no gutters. Arizona is a “dry” state.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-20 11:56:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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