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Title: 'Prayers needed': Two pastors from Raleigh church hospitalized for coronavirus
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Published: Apr 5, 2020
Author: Bryan Mims
Post Date: 2020-04-07 23:34:25 by Gatlin
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Comments: 21

'Prayers needed': Two pastors from Raleigh
church hospitalized for coronavirus

RALEIGH, N.C. — Two pastors from Mid-Way Baptist Church in Raleigh are battling coronavirus, according to the church.

The church is asking for prayers for Pastor Craig Dyson and Pastor Grant Staubs. Both tested positive for COVID-19 and were hospitalized this week, according to recent posts from the church and families on Facebook.

"We're just going to spend some time praying for the needs of our church, our community and even our nation and our world," worship pastor Trevor Thompson said.

In one Facebook post, Amanda Dyson called for prayers for her husband and his co-pastor and thanked health care workers for taking care of the men.

"Please continue praying for both Craig and Grant," she wrote. "I am incredibly thankful for the amazing healthcare workers that we are privileged to have here in the United States ... thank you for all of the prayers, texts, calls and love!"

In an earlier post, Amanda Dyson said Craig was in the hospital for observation after getting a chest x-ray.

"He's doing well considering," Thompson said. "He's very positive; he's very upbeat."

According to Michelle Staubs, her husband was taken to WakeMed with low oxygen levels early Sunday morning. He was admitted and was being administered IV fluids and breathing treatments.

Dyson and Staubs were both recovering, according to the most recent posts by family.

Mid-Way Baptist Church, located on Fayetteville Road in Raleigh, stopped holding gatherings in March and has been livestreaming its services to practice social distancing.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

Praying, but I find it hard to understand why they are playing 1st A politics when scripture states that we should submit to authorities over us. This pandemic is an unusual circumstance and one in which wisdom says we should comply. It's temporary.

WWG1WWA  posted on  2020-04-08   3:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: WWG1WWA (#1)

… scripture states that we should submit to authorities over us.

Hebrews 13:17 English Standard Version (ESV):
17 Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-08   3:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: WWG1WWA (#1)

Praying, but I find it hard to understand why they are playing 1st A politics when scripture states that we should submit to authorities over us. This pandemic is an unusual circumstance and one in which wisdom says we should comply. It's temporary.

The local news:

Mid-Way Baptist Church, located on Fayetteville Road in Raleigh, stopped holding gatherings in March and has been livestreaming its services to practice social distancing.

You have to take Gatlin's yella journalism with a grain of salt.

He hates Christians and is here to make sure the coming persecution of Christians reaches it's fullest potential.

PS: Christians obey authorities until their commands conflict with those of God. In this case Christians are to continue to assemble, and all the more so, as we see the day of Christ's return approaching.

watchman  posted on  2020-04-08   7:10:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin (#2)

7 Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.

You should use the KJV.

Dip shit it doesn't mean if the corrupt government says to kill someone to obey them. It doesn't say if they tell you to not go to church to obey that.

Oh slow Gatlin needs an example. I understand.

Tell me Why Peter broke out of jail. Was he obeying his "leaders"?

You remind me of dementia Biden.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-04-08   7:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: WWG1WWA (#1)

Why did Peter break out of Jail. Oh he was obeying God and not the Government.

Obeying the authorities is not absolute. It is when they just.

I read this line in the Bible before.

Oh ye of little faith.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-04-08   8:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: watchman (#3)

You have to take Gatlin's yella journalism with a grain of salt.

He hates Christians and is here to make sure the coming persecution of Christians reaches it's fullest potential.

So much is changing so quickly in our culture. One of the things that is changing quickly is how deeply we seem to hate each other. I wish I could say Christians were exempt from this trend. We’re not.

In fact, there are a good number of Christians who are fueling it. A few years back, my social feeds felt a lot more fun than they are now. Some days the feed is so bad I just give up…it seems like an endless drone of suspicion that fuels anger that spawns outrage that powers division.

Christians aren't exempt from the trend toward anger, outrage and division online. In fact, there are a good number of Christians who are fueling it.

Respectfully …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-08   8:34:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: watchman (#3)

PS: Christians obey authorities until their commands conflict with those of God. In this case Christians are to continue to assemble, and all the more so, as we see the day of Christ's return approaching.

Quote scripture and verse for your dogmatic incline to lay down principles as incontrovertibly true – Please.

Romans 13:1-7 ESV:
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.

Respectfully ...

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-08   8:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#4)

7 Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.

You should use the KJV.

Romans 13 King James Version (KJV):

13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.

14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-08   8:58:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Dip shit it doesn't mean if the corrupt government says to kill someone to obey them. It doesn't say if they tell you to not go to church to obey that.

Of cours it does not mean that.

Only an idiot would feel that he even needs to point that out.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-08   9:01:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#4) (Edited)

Tell me Why Peter broke out of jail.

He didn’t like the room service.

Am I close …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-08   9:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone, Gatlin, Liberator (#4) (Edited)

7 Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.

Prima Nocta was a law enforced by Edward I of England in an attempt to breed the Scots out instead of fighting them out. This right was the privilege of English Nobles to sleep with a woman on the first night of her marriage.

***

Women should be honored to be shtupped by their "leaders".

Just as we should be honored to be screwed out of our rights and are to obey laws that go against God, right Gatlin?

According to Gatlin's warped interpretation of Romans 13, the American Revolution was evil since the colonists rebelled against authority.

Romans 13 and the Right of Revolution

The principles laid out in Romans 13 and other passages are crucial because the fundamental temptation is power. Lucifer's temptations to Adam and Eve in the Garden and Jesus in the wilderness came down to this: Seize the power for yourself and your own interests!

Therefore, there will always be a clustering of demons around power-holders and their centers of power.

"The greater the power, the more dangerous the abuse," said Edmund Burke. Those who govern and the people they serve must be wary of the tyrant in us all. Romans 13 gives us the brilliant light that can save us from becoming authoritarians, and give legitimacy to those who seek to remove us from power when we do.

So let the people revolt when authorities become authoritarians, but let it be through peaceful, non-violent means, lest the revolutionaries themselves become demonized tyrants depending on mere power and raw might.

Romans 13 has been used throughout history by tyrants.

Not surprising to see Gatlin try to use it as they do.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2020-04-08   9:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard (#11) (Edited)

Romans 13 has been used throughout history by tyrants.

I believe it is much worse when The Bible is So Misunderstood That It's a Sin.

That perhaps is one reason why Thomas Jefferson rewrote the Bible without Jesus' miracles and resurrection.

Far too many people believe that they alone know the true meanings set for in the Bible.

There are a few on this forum who are plagued by that developed fallacy …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-08   10:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Gatlin (#7)

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers.

Jesus answered and said unto them (and you, Gatlin), Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

To "be subject" is about submission, a matter of the heart. Notice Paul mentions that to be subject concerns the conscience (Romans 13:5).

Obedience, on the other hand, is a matter of one's actions, and is regulated by either man's laws or God's laws.

Submission is to be complete, but obedience is up for consideration, especially in the fundamentals of the faith. Many Christians see church assembly as a fundamental.

Stone has given you the example of Peter...I will give some when I have more time.

watchman  posted on  2020-04-08   10:48:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#4)

" Oh slow Gatlin needs an example. I understand.

.....

You remind me of dementia Biden. "

ROFLMAO !!!!!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

"No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson "

People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee

Stoner  posted on  2020-04-08   11:02:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: watchman (#13)

...I will give some when I have more time.

Don’t bother taking time to do it for me.

It is blatantly evident that different people read andunder stand the Bible in a thousand of different ways, And everyone believes beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are absolutely correct

So – how do we know who's right?

People like you are always quoting Scripture and talking about the authority of the Word of God.

Therefore this to me raises a huge question, and that is: How can I know whose interpretation is correct?

You of course will naturally believe only yours is …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-08   11:03:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: watchman (#13)

… Submission / Obedience …

How is submission, not obedience?

It is quite obvious that obedience is merely doing what you are told to do.

That’s simple enough.

And we all often times must be obedient, even the most alpha-male.

Certainly, submissive people are often obedient.

But this does not define submission.

According to Wikipedia:
Submission is the acknowledgement of the legitimacy of the power of one's superior or superiors.

But how is it that submission is not obedience?

I have great trouble with seeing the use “justification logics” as “epistemic logics” …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-08   11:24:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Gatlin (#16)

But how is it that submission is not obedience?

The truths I am trying to show you are spiritual.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Cor. 2:14

Gatlin, you must be born again...born of the Spirit.

It's not too late for you, but time is running out.

watchman  posted on  2020-04-08   13:07:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: watchman (#17)

The truths I am trying to show you are spiritual.

The laws we are ordered to obey by the government are not spiritual.

That is the truth we must all deal in.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Cor. 2:14

What has that to do with obeying government laws?

Nothing that I can find.

Gatlin, you must be born again...born of the Spirit.

It's not too late for you, but time is running out.

Those gratuitous remarks are without recompense. Your proselytizing in a desperate attempt to convert me to agree with your thoughts and beliefs is extremely ill advised and totally misdirected. I am a free thinker in I categorically reject you trying to thrust your personal opinions onto me and will never accept your individualized beliefs as being the only correct religious beliefs.

Furthermore, while I realize that Christians are commanded to proselytize, I strongly contend that the Bible is adequately clear that the conversion of the human heart is first and foremost an act of God – and definitely not yours. We must consequently fully realize that before the disciples were allowed to evangelize the world, It was Jesus who told them to wait in Jerusalem for the Holy Spirit to come (I cite Luke 24:49 for this).

The making of a proselyte is truly God’s work. I will let his words do that to me – not yours …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-08   14:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Gatlin (#18)

The making of a proselyte is truly God’s work.

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! Romans 10:13-15

I will let his words do that to me

When?

watchman  posted on  2020-04-08   14:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: watchman (#19) (Edited)

The making of a proselyte is truly God’s work.

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! Romans 10:13-15

It is most unfortunate that I continue to observe all too often that Christians engaged in the breeding of quarrels. Whereby they seemingly always want to get into debates about what Scriptures mean to them and then they try to act as a despot in that they hold absolute power over what is correct in the Bible and what is not.

It is regrettable that sometimes this is far too comical to watch them wrangle over verses that to them mean something while someone else believes it means something entirely different. You, knowing the Bible as well as you profess to, fully realize that is was Paul who warned Timothy about these sort of thing in the church when he wrote: “Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels.” He said this because “the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.”

So, I say unto you that when you find someone else who may have difference of belief of scriptures and they are not the main, essential believs that you may have. It is then best tp leave it alone – For “this too shall pass.”

Nowhere in Scripture can I find that the Word of God is to be used offensively as a weapon against other Christians – but it is far too often. When I see Christians are using the sword of the Word against one another – I say when that is being done, that it is then being used against the wrong persons.

Yes Sir – I am proudly one of those …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-08   16:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: watchman (#19) (Edited)

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I will let his words do that to me

When?

He does every day – He always has and he always will.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-04-08   17:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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