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Title: How Coronavirus Cases in The U.S. Are Going to Explode Out of Nowhere
Source: Lew Rockwell
URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03 ... ing-to-explode-out-of-nowhere/
Published: Mar 23, 2020
Author: Bill Sardi
Post Date: 2020-03-23 04:27:26 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 942
Comments: 58

In a prior report I revealed the spring equinox (May 19) marks the beginning of the earth tilting back towards the sun and an increase solar ultraviolet radiation which results in elevate vitamin D levels in human populations that will abolish coronavirus cases and death.  I also indicated quarantines will be counterproductive and force people indoors and further deprive them of life-saving vitamin D.

Ron Klain, the ex-federal EBOLA CZAR, issued a warning that coronavirus cases are going to “explode” in the U.S.  On Thursday, March 19, 4,940 new cases were reported. Coronavirus deaths are also predicted to rise precipitously.  But here is how this ruse is accomplished.

Buried in the news report is this language: “numbers in the U.S. are rising sharply partly because testing is being more widespread.”

So indiscriminate news reports will sound alarming because news agencies want to capture readership.  This parade of irresponsible news reports is anticipated to raise levels of anxiety in the American population at large.  The “What do we do now?” panic sets in.

Because there are more cases of coronavirus infection reported with more testing, and because testing produces a high percentage of false positive tests that falsely indicate a person has the disease when they don’t, it will be easy to mislead the public and cause the public to accept draconian community lockdowns.  Just the intentional withholding of toilet paper supplies could provoke civilian unrest and cause the public to clamor for troops in the streets to halt civil unrest.

And just because more deaths are likely to be attributed to coronavirus does not necessarily mean the virus is the cause of the pneumonia that kills.  It just could be a companion virus.  Or it could even be tuberculosis.

An overlay of US maps shows the same geographical incidence for coronavirus as for tuberculosis.  So which germ is it?

Despite the admission that coronavirus was in circulation in the U.S. prior to the initial news reports of a coronavirus outbreak in China in January 2020, this means coronavirus was either causing so few deaths it went unnoticed or simply was not causing symptomatic disease.

So, what are we worried about if we get infected, experience mild or no symptoms, and develop natural long-term antibodies against this pathogenic disease, without need for future vaccination?

Coronavirus induces a lower respiratory tract infection (lungs versus throat and bronchus) where lungs fill with fluid (pneumonia) blocking oxygen transfer to the blood.  Patients drown in their own fluids.

Chronic lower respiratory diseases are already the number four cause of death in the U.S., resulting in 160,201 deaths in 2017.

More than 250,000 people are hospitalized for pneumonia annually in the US.  The mortality rate for pneumonia in the US population (all ages) is 15.1 deaths per 100,000.

An estimated 50,000 Americans die of pneumonia annually (137/DAY).

An estimated 4,749 pneumonia-associated deaths per year (13/day) are reported for the State of New York (2018 data), an epicenter for this infectious disease. Unless New York health officials report excess pneumonia-related deaths over the normal seasonal occurrence, the published number will be totally misleading.

Most deaths associated with coronavirus infection and resultant pneumonia occur among aged adults, over age 70 and predominately over age 80.

According to STATISTA, there are ~12,680,000 Americans over age 80 (2018).  Using an estimation that 80% of the 50,000 deaths due to pneumonia in the U.S. occur among 80-90-year-olds (40,000 deaths or 110 pneumonia-related deaths per day), the pneumonia mortality rate would only be ~4/10ths of one percent of that total population.

A Stanford University epidemiologist says reports of widespread death from COVID-19 coronavirus are unsubstantiated and irresponsible, but they are governing the daily decisions by politicians how to manage this disease.

The population at large has been ill-advised to wear masks and conduct habitual hand washing, which are meaningless.

All of the health pronouncements issued from public health agencies, particularly the Centers for Disease Control, emanate from an infectious disease that is not even as deadly as the seasonal flu.  Yet every single case is being reported in the news, giving the false impression millions of Americans are going to die.

Bottom line, misleading news reports are likely to report thousands of new coronavirus-related deaths that are likely a part of the normal course of events.

PNEUMONIA VACCINE EFFECTIVENESS

An estimated 68.9% of adults over age 65 have been inoculated against pneumococcal infection.

The pneumonia vaccine is said to be 85% effective against strains of Streptococcus pneumococcal infection.

Data tabulated below does not support the claim that increased vaccination reduces deaths caused by pneumonia.

VACCINATION AGAINST STREPTOCOCCUS PNEUMOCCAL INFECTION IS NOT ASSOCIATION WITH REDUCTION IN PNEUMONIA DEATHS
YearPneumonia, deaths
Source:
American Lung Association
% of adults over age 65 ever received pneumococcal vaccination
Source: Tableau, May 29, 2019

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#19. To: Willie Green (#16)

I also indicated quarantines will be counterproductive and force people indoors and further deprive them of life-saving vitamin D.

Well drink some milk, you fuckin' dolt...

Let me guess - you're one of the idiots who think that staying cooped up inside is a good idea?

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2020-03-23   12:37:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Gatlin, Helicopter Communist (#15)

Your problems are over, gov has found the solution.



Ron Paul - Lake Jackson Texas Values

Hondo68  posted on  2020-03-23   12:37:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Gatlin (#11) (Edited)

Here is the headline in most recent article you posted:

How Coronavirus Cases in The U.S. Are Going to Explode Out of Nowhere.

Please be so kind as to explain in a manner that everyone can thoroughly understand how your posting the article with this headline can possibly give people the experience of peaceful moments whereby they can enjoy their downtime from the stresses and strains of today’s health situation.

Did you even bother to read past the headline?

Buried in the news report is this language: “numbers in the U.S. are rising sharply partly because testing is being more widespread.”

So indiscriminate news reports will sound alarming because news agencies want to capture readership.  This parade of irresponsible news reports is anticipated to raise levels of anxiety in the American population at large.  The “What do we do now?” panic sets in.

Because there are more cases of coronavirus infection reported with more testing, and because testing produces a high percentage of false positive tests that falsely indicate a person has the disease when they don’t, it will be easy to mislead the public and cause the public to accept draconian community lockdowns.  Just the intentional withholding of toilet paper supplies could provoke civilian unrest and cause the public to clamor for troops in the streets to halt civil unrest.

Read the articles before you post any more of your ignorant comments.

I am so fucking done with you - it's like trying to reason with a 12 year old.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2020-03-23   12:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Hondo68 (#20)

Your problems are over, gov has found the solution.

Gatlin's gonna need some of that government "cheese" once his stock goes down the shitter.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2020-03-23   12:46:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Deckard (#19)

you're one of the idiots who think that staying cooped up inside is a good idea?

You gotta learn to think outside the box, stooge...

You worried about sunlight? Sit next to the goddam window.... With springtime approaching, you can even open the goddam window & let in some fresh air... sure as hell beats recirculating that stuffy shit with the A/C...

Willie Green  posted on  2020-03-23   13:31:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Deckard (#17)

Gatlin: But I respectfully ask why it is that you feel an absolute imperative whereby you must PARROT the scare mongering.

Deckard: I'm not parroting anything - like I said, the articles …

You said in “Post 10” that “the news media is using scare mongering tactic” – and you tried to shift blame to them.

So, if it is as you said that “the news media is using scare mongering tactic” – Then you therefore are posting those “scare mongering” articles.

Consequently, how is it that you are “not parroting anything?”

Please explain …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-23   13:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Deckard (#18)

I do plan to continue to follow the recommended steps to help prevent the spread of the Chinese coronavirus.

What are you doing?

Living my life free of fear …

That's no answer – it is only a fuzzy generalized concept that is inherently vague and not clearly defined or fully described.

Can you be more specific so that those here who wish to use you as a shining example who has logically driven daily life procedures can duplicate your lifestyle under the conditions today.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-23   13:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Deckard (#21)

Did you even bother to read past the headline?

Of course, I did – Did you even bother to read my post to you where I stated:

The lead sentence in your article:

… an increase solar ultraviolet radiation which results in elevate vitamin D levels in human populations that will abolish coronavirus cases and death.

Please furnish your readers here proof of your “simply posting acts” by documenting with scientific proof that ALL coronavirus cases and deaths WILL BE ABOLISHED by the spring equinox.

You never furnished any proof – Will you please do so now?

Or can’t you …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-23   13:53:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Deckard (#21)

Did you even bother to read past the headline?
I did.

Did you even bother to read my response on that?

I’ll answer that – No, you did not.

Buried in the news report is this language: “numbers in the U.S. are rising sharply partly because testing is being more widespread.”
Okay – So?
So indiscriminate news reports will sound alarming because news agencies want to capture readership. This parade of irresponsible news reports is anticipated to raise levels of anxiety in the American population at large. The “What do we do now?” panic sets in.
So this is conjecture – An opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

You said the you presented “facts” – There are no “facts” here.

… because testing produces a high percentage of false positive tests that falsely indicate a person has the disease when they don’t …
What reason do you have for accepting the data in the article you posted over data from other articles like this …
Coronavirus false test results: With the push to screen come questions of accuracy. Reports of “false negatives” could complicate efforts to control the spread of COVID-19.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/19/coronavirus-false-test- results-with-the-push-to-screen-come-questions-of-accuracy/
You said …
Read the articles before you post …
I say – I did and I suggest you carefully read the articles for accuracy before you blindly post them because you like the headline.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-23   14:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Deckard (#21) (Edited)

I am so fucking done with you - it's like trying to reason with a 12 year old.
Sonny Boy, you were “so fucking done” a long time ago – Sometime around your first post.

And now instead of advancing good sound reasoning you inject a ad hominem in view in your absence of any logical argumentation and do so with attack-language unrelated to the truth in this matter.

Your displayed fallacy of relevance where your reject and criticize my view on the basis of a demeaning and inappropriate characterization is one of your traits for escaping to protect yourself from further embarrassment – I recognize that.

Verbally attacking me proves nothing about the truth or falsity of my assertions.

The use your ad hominem signals the point of your capitulation – And I will accept it.

Good Day, to you – Sir …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-23   14:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Deckard (#5) (Edited)

Just when you thought I had finished with you – Here I am again to respond to one of your comments.

Deckard: Seems that a lot of posters here are drinking the MSM kool-aid these days …
Do you think that the LF posters drinking Kool-Aid is the reason “a lot of posters here” pay little to no attention to any of the articles you post?
Let’s take a moment to review the last 20 articles you posted and note the number of comments.
‘If You’re Gonna File a Complaint, We’ll Just Charge You’—Tyrant Cop Arrests Good Samaritan
Post Date: 2020-03-23 11:20:39 by Deckard
3 Comments

With COVID-19, That Which Is Not Forbidden Is Mandatory—and Subsidized
Post Date: 2020-03-23 11:08:06 by Deckard
0 Comments

From Quarantine To Tyranny To Rebellion: Where Is The Line In The Sand?
Post Date: 2020-03-23 04:13:51 by Deckard
0 Comments

The Cat Leaves The Bag
Post Date: 2020-03-23 04:02:17 by Deckard
0 Comments

“Travel Papers” and the Pandemic Patriot Act 2.0
Post Date: 2020-03-22 23:47:43 by Deckard
0 Comments

Cuomo Appalled By "Disrespectful" People Congregating In NYC Parks
Post Date: 2020-03-22 23:28:59 by Deckard
0 Comments

Cops Conspire On Video to Frame Innocent Man for Assault, Get Him Convicted — Cops Not Fired
Post Date: 2020-03-22 23:14:33 by Deckard
0 Comments

I am an American constitutional lawyer – and I see our government using Covid-19 to take away our fundamental rights
Post Date: 2020-03-22 23:08:36 by Deckard
0 Comments

This Is a Test: How Will the Constitution Fare During a Nationwide Lockdown?
Post Date: 2020-03-21 22:31:57 by Deckard
4 Comments

Shut us down already, Mr. President!
Post Date: 2020-03-21 22:21:34 by Deckard
5 Comments

Tucker Targets Lindsey Graham - Who Wants Trump To Boost Visas To Rich Chinese Amid Corona Crisis
Post Date: 2020-03-21 22:13:40 by Deckard
1 Comments

Louisiana Man Arrested, Charged with Terrorism for Satirical COVID-19 Facebook Post
Post Date: 2020-03-21 21:59:53 by Deckard
0 Comments

The Lockdown of America Begins
Post Date: 2020-03-21 21:53:39 by Deckard
0 Comments

COVID-19: Welcome to the New Dark Ages
Post Date: 2020-03-21 21:44:55 by Deckard
1 Comments

Spring equinox and rise in solar uv radiation will predictably bring …
Post Date: 2020-03-21 09:57:00 by Deckard
1 Comments

Lakewood Police Arrest Homeowner For Hosting Pop-up Wedding …
Post Date: 2020-03-21 09:40:53 by Deckard
3 Comments

Dane County sets up website to report gatherings of 10 or more people
Post Date: 2020-03-21 09:34:28 by Deckard
0 Comments

First Circuit Appeals Court: 'Community Caretaking' Function Applies …
Post Date: 2020-03-21 09:21:37 by Deckard
0 Comments

Do As We Say Not As We Do
Post Date: 2020-03-21 08:59:55 by Deckard
3 Comments

Coronavirus Epidemic May Be Slowed by Warm and Humid Weather
Post Date: 2020-03-21 07:14:46 by Deckard
0 Comments

[Missing from this list is the article where you and I had a lengthy exchange].

Hmmm …
A pathetic lack of participation – Isn’t it?
Most of the articles you posted have no comments – While a small number have only very few.
Does this tell you anything?
It most certainly should …
Now – Just think how much more interesting and exciting you could make this forum if you redirected all your wasted effort to posting articles that most everyone would have an interest in whereby you would create a desire for them to participate in with their posts. Gawd, that would be awesome – Truly awesome …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-23   18:40:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Deckard (#29)

MAGA is old stuff – Trump has handled that.

Man …

You can MLFGA – Just go for it.

Clean up you act …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-23   18:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Gatlin (#29)

A pathetic lack of participation

I appreciate Deckard's posts.

If an article is interesting, I can easily search the back story to get a rounded view.

watchman  posted on  2020-03-23   19:52:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: watchman (#31)

I appreciate Deckard's posts.

If an article is interesting, I can easily search the back story to get a rounded view.

Gatlin has had this obsession with the articles I post going back at least ten years, starting over at the old Liberty Post forum.

He doesn't like any articles that deviate from what he deems to be "acceptable".

If he were the site moderator or owner, you can be sure any such articles that do not support his narrow minded world view would be verboten.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2020-03-23   21:50:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: watchman (#31) (Edited)

I appreciate Deckard's posts.

This was quite evident to me when I could not help but notice that the lonely single response to his posted COVID-19: Welcome to the New Dark Ages article was you telling him “That reminds me...rent is due in nine days.”

Good informative news articles cross a vast domain that encapsulates various genres with each story having different characteristics in terms of what important information it provides.

In that regard, this article Deckard posted obviously was of great appreciative significance to you – since it reminded you to meet your financial requirement to pay your rent.

Amazing …

Do you often have a problem of remembering to pay your rent?

Just asking …

Edit:

BTW – I too appreciate a number of Deckard’s posted articles even though I must also “search the back story to get a rounded view” as I search for truthful information.

It would be ever so nice if Deckard were to post the “truthful back story” to begin with – instead of the agenda driven ones he posts – to save us time and effort …

Just saying …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-24   3:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Deckard (#32) (Edited)

Gatlin has had this obsession with the articles …
I have no obsession with the articles you post. It’s just that I simply cannot understand why you feel it necessary to almost every morning lead off the forum sidebar with 4 bad cop stories – one-after-another in rapid fire succession.

I know of no one who will not admit that bod cops exist. For studies show that less than one percent of LEOs are bad cops. I also know of no one who does not want bad cops punished. But your barrage of consistently posting your bad cop articles does nothing to punish any of the bad cops – Absolutely nothing. If anything, it only punishes those who come here looking for enlightening news articles to read and comment on. It may even appear to some that your dedicated commitment to posting bad cop stories is your form of seeking absolution – a formal release from some guilt you may have. Who knows …

I don’t want you to stop posting articles. I honestly believe that your posting of articles may be the only thing keeping this forum alive and preventing it from fading into cyber oblivion. And we both would never want that to happen.

However, I must say that based on the evidence showing the limited number of comments you get on your articles – and in the majority of cases there are no comments – I feel that it would be more beneficial to the forum and everyone if instead of posting 4 bad cop articles in one day that you post one bad cop article every fourth day. And devote your time and effort to posting articles of varied interests – which you occasionally do, albeit that you limit most of those to anti-government hits.

You are recognizably the most prolific poster of articles on the forum. That is an asset to this forum in keeping it alive. But – for heaven/s sake, man – use that asset more wisely to make LF a better forum and possibly make yourself a better person by not constantly blowing out your pent-up emotion of hate.

MLFGA – You have the power to do it …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-24   7:05:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Gatlin (#33)

the lonely single response

I realize it's your advanced age catching up with you. You failed to make a correlation between the "Two checks for a thousand dollars or less spread over a couple months will not keep the wolves from the door", and the statistics concerning New York rent obligations coming due in about a week.

Do you often have a problem of remembering to pay your rent?

Me? Pay rent? The only rent I pay is the property tax on a little home in a cow pasture.

However, when NYC and other metro areas implode/explode the government will probably seize my cows and make me pay rent on them. Or perhaps some crooked cops will decide they need to feed their families with my beef.

Either way, the food my cows produce will not be enough to feed you there in the gated community (asylum) where you are currently being housed. You should begin to worry a little when you see your guards (caregivers) running away:-)

I hope it doesn't come to that, Gatlin. Starvation, I mean. The world desperately needs old gaffers like you, full of wit and wisdom.

watchman  posted on  2020-03-24   7:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Gatlin (#29) (Edited)

Most of the articles you posted have no comments – While a small number have only very few.

People often read articles here without making comments, especially when they agree with what is said.

I post the same articles at other sites, getting more responses than here.

Seems to me you are the only one complaining.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2020-03-24   9:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Deckard (#25)

Now that you have had time to carefully consider my question to you and you have prepared yourself to give a logically realistic answer – I ask once again that you please be more specific and tell everyone exactly how “living [your] life free pf fear” in any way will “help prevent the spread of the Chinese coronavirus?”

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-24   9:15:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Deckard (#36)

Gatlin: Most of the articles you posted have no comments – While a small number have only very few.

Deckard: People often read articles here without making comments, especially when they agree with what is said.

You have absolutely no basis – none whatsoever – for your conclusion “that people do not make comments, especially when they agree with what is said.”

How can you possibly come up with this unbelievable rationale for which there is no logical basis?

Using your thought process, it can just as easily be surmised – based on your scanty evidence – that “people did not make comments, especially because they felt the article was all bullshit and full of lies.

Do you ever have the ability to arrive at a reasonable conclusion – one that is made based on analyzing a variety of data and record sources and then properly using these to come to the most likely scenario based on the evidence provided?

I fear not …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-24   9:35:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Gatlin (#37)

I ask once again that you please be more specific and tell everyone exactly how “living [your] life free pf fear” in any way will “help prevent the spread of the Chinese coronavirus?”

I can't make it any simpler than that for you. Shopping in the wee hours when there are fewer people, which is something I have always done.

Work - home - work, same as I always have.

I refuse to be frightened by the media who are promoting the coronapocalypse bullshit.

One thing that brings a smile to my face is your stock portfolio going in the crapper.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2020-03-24   9:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Gatlin (#38) (Edited)

The fact that you disagree with every article I post tells me I'm on the right track by posting them.

This site would be dead if I didn't post articles.

Understand this: You are NOT the arbiter of what gets posted here - you don't own the site, so your whining is pointless.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2020-03-24   9:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Deckard (#36)

Seems to me you are the only one complaining.
You ever think maybe that no one else is complaining because they simply don’t give a shit about your propensity to mostly only post cop-hating and anti- government articles – articles for which they have no expressed interest?

Furthermore, it may be of value for you to learn that acknowledging feelings is very healthy, it's good for a person physiologically and it's good for a person’s emotional health. The key to complaining that capitalizes on constructive potential is mindfulness – which means acknowledging what you're doing, why, and the effect it's expected to have on others.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-24   9:50:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Deckard (#40)

The fact that you disagree with every article I post tells me I'm on the right track by posting them.
That’s a measurement of your success?

How frail – So weak …

This site would be dead if I didn't post articles.
Ahem – I stated that already.

Pay attention …

Understand this: You are NOT the arbiter of what gets posted here …
Of course, I’m not “the arbiter of what gets posted here” – But I can freely express my opinions and make suggestions.

Now, you understand this clearly: I will continue to express my opinions and make suggestions as long as Stone permits me to do so.

- you don't own the site …
Never said I did – Neither have I ever wanted to.
… so your whining is pointless.
Anyone trying to reach you in any manner has always been futile and ineffective.

And from all indications by you – it forever will be that way with you …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-24   10:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Deckard (#39)

I ask once again that you please be more specific and tell everyone exactly how “living [your] life free pf fear” in any way will “help prevent the spread of the Chinese coronavirus?”

I can't make it any simpler than that for you. Shopping in the wee hours when there are fewer people, which is something I have always done.

Work - home - work, same as I always have.

Now, that is a much better partial answer than just saying that you are living your life free of fear is a way to “help prevent the spread of the Chinese coronavirus?”

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-24   10:41:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Deckard (#39)

One thing that brings a smile to my face is your stock portfolio going in the crapper.
False assumption. I got out of the market the third day of the drop. And then I began buying back in each day on a program basis so as to become fully invested again at year’s end. I will adjust the program according to market movements. I am 25% invested in 60 stocks. I am going after the solid companies like Boeing that is down 70% and I anticipate doubling my investment there in two years – We shall see.

I’m no fool and I didn’t just get off of the turnip wagon. As I have stated before, I fully retired to Scottsdale at age 41 and the only thing I have done since then is to continue to work the market.

This is the greatest buying opportunity I have seen in my over 50 years trading stock. But it must be done with caution and dollar cost averaged over a period of time. As the market increases – and it of course will at some time – then accelerate the amount of your dollar cost averaging buy in.

You’re costing m money right now – Gotta go …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-24   10:47:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Deckard (#39)

One thing that brings a smile to my face is your stock portfolio going in the crapper.

The emotion of pleasure in others' misfortune (Schadenfreude in German) is generally regarded as morally evil. It is often considered to be less acceptable than envy, which is regarded as a deadly sin. It would appear to be morally more perverse to be pleased with another person's misfortune than to be displeased with another person's good fortune. Indeed Arthur Schopenhauer argues that to feel envy is human, but to enjoy other people's misfortune is diabolical. For Schopenhauer, pleasure in others' misfortune is the worst trait in human nature, since it is closely related to cruelty. I believe that once we understand better this emotion, it becomes more natural and acceptable. (See also Portmann, When Bad Things Happen to Other People.)

In describing pleasure in others' misfortune, two features are not disputable: our pleasure and the other's misfortune. These features describe a significant conflict between our positive evaluation of the situation and the negative evaluation of the other person. This conflict indicates the presence of a comparative, and sometimes even a competitive, concern. A major reason for being pleased with the misfortune of another person is that this person's misfortune may somehow benefit us; it may, for example, emphasize our superiority.

It is not sufficient to characterize pleasure in others' misfortune as including our pleasure and the other's misfortune. I would like to suggest three additional typical characteristics: (a) the other person is perceived to deserve the misfortune, (b) the misfortune is relatively minor, and (c) we are passive in generating the other's misfortune.

(a) A central feature of pleasure in others' misfortune is the belief that the other person deserves her misfortune. For example, when stuck in a traffic jam, should a driver pass us on our right by driving on the hard shoulder, our anger will be replaced by pleasure when we see a policeman giving the driver a ticket. The belief that the other person deserves his misfortune expresses our assumption that justice has been done and enables us to be pleased in a situation where we seem required to be sad. Moreover, this belief presents us as moral people who do not want to hurt others. The more deserved the misfortune is, the more justified is the pleasure. Norman Feather shows in a study of people's attitude toward the downfall of those in high positions that the fall was greeted with positive approval when the fall was seen to be deserved, but reactions were negative when the fall was seen to be undeserved.

(b) Another characteristic of pleasure in others' misfortune concerns the minor nature of the misfortune. This characteristic is associated with the comparative concern prevailing in this emotion. Comparison is possible when the two parties are not too far apart when they are considered to belong to the same comparative framework. Accordingly, pleasure in others' misfortune is concerned with small differences. When the misfortune is severe, pleasure in others' misfortune often turns into pity. For example, should our noisy, inconsiderate, and snobbish neighbor find out that his wife is having an affair, we may feel some pleasure; however, if his daughter becomes seriously ill, we are more likely to feel compassion or pity. We can admit that in some circumstances the other's misfortune may be grave, but it is still not significantly graver than that caused by this person to other people—especially ourselves and those related to us. Some may be pleased when a brutal dictator is murdered, as many Romanians were when Ceau_escu was executed, because such a murder seems well-deserved given what Ceau_escu did to his people.

(c) Pleasure in others' misfortune is associated with the passivity of the agent enjoying the situation. Active personal involvement is contrary to the rules of fair competition; it would present us as deliberately harming the other, and hence as not being the real winner in the ongoing competition. It may also be considered an offense; although the other person might deserve misfortune, or even punishment, we lack the authority to impose it. Typically, one of the greater contributions to the pleasure we take in others' misfortune is the feeling that the failure of our competitor is not due to our own wicked behavior. It is as if justice has been done in the spirit of the Talmudic saying: "The tasks of the righteous get done by others." This is a kind of unsolicited gift.

Some people identify pleasure in others' misfortune with sadism, arguing that the difference between them is negligible and pleasure in others' misfortune involves hate and cruelty. It is true that pleasure in others' misfortune often has such a public image, but this merely represents extreme and nontypical cases. The above three characteristics of pleasure in others' misfortune are absent in sadism: The punishment is not deserved, it is not minor, and we actively participate in it. An interesting study on unrequited love indicates that contrary to the stereotype of the rejector as a sadistic heartbreaker, rejectors do not enjoy this experience and experience negative emotions, such as guilt and regret. In their verbal and nonverbal behavior, most rejectors try to minimize the hurt that they cause the other.

There would seem to be little in common between romantic love, which involves a positive attitude toward the beloved, and the negative attitude of pleasure in others' misfortune. However, it can be present when the misfortune is very minor and the partner responds to the misfortune humorously or by teasing—a response that is part of a loving relationship, as are other types of games. It is, however, more common in loving relationships when a third party is involved, or when the romantic relationships failed. Consider the following case described a student: "Last winter, I had a lover, who had this awful girlfriend. Some days after I had an aching throat, I heard them talking on the phone, and she was surprised to discover she did not feel well and that her throat ached. Well, the smile on my face was not easy to conceal." In another case, Inga is joyful over the infidelity of Kate's husband Richard, since Kate used to be her own husband's lover. Kate may suffer a great deal because of Richard's infidelity, and Inga may know it; nevertheless, in enjoying this event, Inga thinks that justice has been done and that Kate's suffering resembles her own, thus putting them on equal footing. In such cases, the other's misfortune may be substantial, but it is not much greater than what used to be, or may still be, our own misfortune. Here punishment also fits, and in no way exceeds, the crime, and we can continue to believe that justice has been done.

Sometimes the profound pain of losing a lover may generate pathological attitude which is even worse than pleasure in others' misfortune. A real example like this is that of a man whose wife had an affair, and as a result, they divorced. The wife married her lover, and shortly afterward, gave birth to a son. A few years later when the child developed cancer, the man expressed pleasure that his ex-wife had been punished. This is a pathological case, since not only is the wife's misfortune far too severe, but the misfortune is shared by an innocent child.

When we consider pleasure in others' misfortune as pertaining to minor misfortunes and involving our belief that justice has been done, and we are not responsible for eliciting the misfortune, then this emotion is not so reprehensible from a moral point of view. The conventional view, which severely condemns pleasure in others' misfortune, stems from considering cruelty and sadism as prototypical cases of this emotion. We have seen that this view is mistaken.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-the-name- love/200901/why-are-we-pleased-others-misfortune

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-24   11:58:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Gatlin (#45)

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-the-name- love/200901/why-are-we-pleased-others-misfortune

*yawns*

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2020-03-24   12:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Deckard (#46) (Edited)

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-the-name- love/200901/why-are-we-pleased-others-misfortune

*yawns*

A closed mind does not inspire courage, faith or belief.

There can be nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot.

We live in a great nation where it is important for us to be aware
of the wonderful benefits of continuing our learning process in that
it improves our personal lives and helps the society to run smoothly.

Learn something new, whether you think you're interested in it or not.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-24   12:34:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Deckard (#39)

One thing that brings a smile to my face is your stock portfolio going in the crapper.

Dow Jones Industrials Average ($DOWI)
20,469.13 +1,877.20 (+10.10%) 15:39 ET [INDEX/DJ]

Boeing Company (BA)
125.82 +20.20 (+19.13%) 15:55 ET [NYSE]

Don’t ever again try to Short Sell this ole fella …
“Short Sell” – Get it …
*** snicker ***

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-24   15:58:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Deckard (#39)

One thing that brings a smile to my face is your stock portfolio going in the crapper.

Dow Jones bounces back with biggest-ever point gain ...

Borrowing this from your post:

*yawns*

Thanks for the use …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-24   16:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Deckard (#48)

Deckard: One thing that brings a smile to my face is
your stock portfolio going in the crapper.

Yesterday -

Dow Jones Industrials Average ($DOWI)
20,469.13 +1,877.20 (+10.10%) 15:39 ET [INDEX/DJ]

Boeing Company (BA)
125.82 +20.20 (+19.13%) 15:55 ET [NYSE]

Today –

Dow Jones Industrials Average ($DOWI)
21,887.75 +1,182.84 (+5.71%) 15:24 ET [INDEX/DJ]

Boeing Company (BA)
164.80 +37.12 (+29.07%) 15:40 ET [NYSE]

You keep smiling – Ya hear …
Boeing is up 48.20% in 2 days.
You keep on smiling – Please.
I feel it is working for me …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-25   15:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Deckard (#0)

How Coronavirus Cases in The U.S. Are Going to Explode Out of Nowhere

When?

rustynail  posted on  2020-03-26   8:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: watchman (#35) (Edited)

I realize it's your advanced age catching up with you.

There was a time that scientists thought the brain connections would develop at a fast pace in the first few years of life, and continue until you reached your mental peak in your early 20s. It was thought that your cognitive abilities would somehow level off when you reached middle age – and then start to slowly decline. Science has now proven this is definitely not true – for scientists now see the brain is continuously changing and developing across our entire life span.

Your gratuitous comment was uncalled for and definitely lacking any sound reasoning. It was therefore unwarranted and if anything, it was only your poor attempt to try to be sarcastic. “Sarcasm isn't an attitude - It's an art .” It can be developed – work at it …

Gatlin: Do you often have a problem of remembering to pay your rent?

Watchman: Me? Pay rent? The only rent I pay is the property tax on a little home in a cow pasture.

Then why did you state here:
That reminds me...rent is due in nine days.
If not your rent – then …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-27   21:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Gatlin (#52)

Poor Gatlin.

You're the one who brought my "lonely single response" on another thread all the way over to this thread. And now you wish me to explain my "lonely single response" to that article here on this thread, too.

Dear Gatlin, I'm concerned about your mental state in this time of worldwide pandemic. Dozens of people, mostly old people with bad lungs, are dying at an alarming rate.

And what about your immune system? Haven't you weakened it enough as you fret, and obsess, and stress over articles that Deckard posts here?

I hope and pray it doesn't happen, but if you don't calm yourself, you are going to give yourself that corona virus. And right before you cough up your tattered lungs and expire, in your delirium you will probably be shouting, "Deckard! Deckard!"

Then, of course, your next of kin will want to know why "Deckard" was the last earthly word you spoke. They'll search your computer, find this forum, deduce that your password is GATLINISKING (all in uppercase letters). Then, oh boy, the rest of us here will have the unenviable task of explaining to those loved ones of yours...that which is completely un-explainable.

watchman  posted on  2020-03-27   23:33:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: watchman (#53)

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-28   0:06:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: watchman (#53) (Edited)

Dear Gatlin, I'm concerned about your mental state in this time of worldwide pandemic.

What “pandemic” ….

misterwhite: Let's face it...this pandemic is a no-show, the proverbial nothingburger.

watchman: I agree …

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=61202&Disp=5#C5

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-28   0:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Gatlin (#55)

misterwhite: Let's face it...this pandemic is a no-show, the proverbial nothingburger.

watchman: I agree …

Sad. Very sad.

Teacher: "Class! Stop laughing at Gatlin. Who can show Gatlin his error?"

watchman  posted on  2020-03-28   7:24:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: watchman (#56)

Who can show Gatlin his error?"

Who can say that Gatlin made an error?

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-28   8:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: watchman (#53) (Edited)

You're the one who brought my "lonely single response" on another thread all the way over to this thread. And now you wish me to explain my "lonely single response" to that article here on this thread, too.
I’m the one who posted evidence to Deckard there is “little attention to any of the articles you post.”

There is pathetically almost no participation in responding to the articles he posts.

You are the one who injected into the exchange I was having with Deckard to post:

I appreciate Deckard's posts.
https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=61192&Disp=31#C31
Since then, when I comment about Deckard …

You comment all about me commenting about Deckard …

Humorous …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-03-28   8:33:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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