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I AM A PROPHET and I prophesy
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Title: 2020 in Bible Prophecy
Source: barry Midyet
URL Source: http://barrymidyet.com
Published: Dec 31, 2019
Author: Barry Midyet
Post Date: 2019-12-31 22:42:36 by interpreter
Keywords: 2020, predictions
Views: 696
Comments: 53

Hi guys, IT's that time again, to make my annual prognostications. Taken from the last page of my new book, The Revelation, 2020 edition:

2020 (and beyond) in Bible Prophecy © 12/31/2019 Barry Midyet

As always, I must add my standard qualifier here, These predictions are based on the Bible, and cannot fail to come true, But I may be ahead of God’s timetable by a year or two.

1. Last plagues one and five will start to level off and dissipate, But others – like global warming – may last a few decades yet. (See Revelation 16:1-9)

2. Ar Mageddon will rage for a couple more years or thereabout Until all the demon-possessed kings of the East are taken out. (See Revelation 16:12-21)

3. Every day you wake up in the U-S-A, Bullets will spray (at least) two times a day. (See Revelation 19:20)

4. After a thousand years of great schisms, and pandemonium, The Church will unite as one for a glorious millennium. (See John 17:20-23 and Revelation 20:1-3)

5. When the nations not wearing a wedding garment are booted from NATO, The remnant will rule the Earth with Jesus in a thousand-year crescendo. (See Matthew 22:1-14 and Revelation 20:4a)

6. Someone now alive will live to be a thousand with increase in knowledge, And men will reach the heavenly planet with no sea within two decades. (See Revelation 20:4b-6 and 21:1-2)

Thy Kingdom come on the Earth as it is in Heaven, Amen

Barry Midyet

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#1. To: interpreter (#0)

bookmarked for later

THIS IS A TAG LINE...Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2020-01-01   1:25:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: interpreter (#0)

Hi guys, IT's that time again, to make my annual prognostications. Taken from the last page of my new book, The Revelation, 2020 edition:

I hate to step on your toes, but you so full of shit about predictions that your own eyeballs are popping out.

buckeroo  posted on  2020-01-01   14:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: buckeroo (#2)

" you so full of shit about predictions that your own eyeballs are popping out. "

LOL, that is pretty full !!! LOL

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

"No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson "

People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee

Stoner  posted on  2020-01-01   15:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: interpreter, buckeroo, Stoner, jeremiad (#0)

Here's a link back to your last thread of predictions.

LF: 2019 in Bible Prophecy, 5/27/19

Let's look those over:

1. Trump together with other (Judeo-Christian) nations (Trump and company) Will be able to finish off the rest of ISIS and company,

2. The EU will completely disband, marking an end to the open border The UN will grow weaker, and the NATO will grow stronger

3. Trump & company will also take out Kim Jong-Un, the evil little whore in Pyongyang. (See commentary on Revelation 17 for more on little whores of the atheist kind).

4. Trump and Co.will alas have to take out the evil Ayatolla Kohmeini in Tehran Which is pointed to by the Jerusalem-to-the-Euphrates direction

5. Though Donald is trying his best, he will soon grow tired of this gig too, And turn it over to his daughter and the Jew, and they will know what to do

6. The Good News is, when the last of Satan’s forces are all gone, Judeo-Christians will then rule the Earth unhindered by Satan, And it will continue for a glorious Millennium

7. A few of the other plagues (such as skin cancers) will begin to abet But others (like the Earth’summer scorchers) will continue a while yet

None of those came true. Which makes you a false prophet. I don't have any stones laying around handy though so you're safe for now.

Tooconservative  posted on  2020-01-04   19:44:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#4) (Edited)

"None of those came true. Which makes you a false prophet. I don't have any stones laying around handy though so you're safe for now."

I dont know how anyone could possibly say that.

First of all, I always say that I am oftentimes a year or two ahead of God's timetable.

In fact that is usually the case. For example, for 2018, I predicted that a bomb would be dropped on the head honcho in Iran. That has now come to pass -- on the second day into 2020, just 1 year and two days after 2018 ended and well within the time frame I stipulated.

Now lets review what I predicted would begin being fulfilled in 2019, and by the end of 2021:

1. Trump together with other (Judeo-Christian) nations (Trump and company) Will be able to finish off the rest of ISIS and company.

That too has been fulfilled, and in 2019 exactly as I predicted it would. And I listed it first because I figured it would be the first prediction to be fulfilled (and it was).

2. The EU will completely disband, marking an end to the open border The UN will grow weaker, and the NATO will grow stronger.

Here there are 4 things predicted, and 3 out of 4 have already been fulfilled (or mostly fulfilled). Great Britain has already left the EU, and many other nations are threatening to, if the EU does not rescend its crazy "open borders" policy that forced European nations to admit millions of Muslims who have since killed tens of thousands of European Christians. If the EU is able to continue to exist, it will not be in its present form (insisting on open borders). And the NATO coalition is stronger and the UN is getting weaker and weaker every year. Hardly anyone pays any attention to anything the UN says anymore. And that is especially true with the US and President Trump. He hates the UN and virtually everything it does and says. He is now withholding funding from several offensive UN programs. And without funding from the US, the UN will soon cease to exist altogether (thank God).

More later ...

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-05   22:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: interpreter (#0)

These predictions are based on the Bible...

I'm trying to understand your exegesis if Revelation 16...

It would be most helpful to know, for example, who taught you Revelation?

Or, what are the primary source materials/commentaries that led you to your conclusions about Rev.16?

watchman  posted on  2020-01-05   23:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: interpreter (#5)

First of all, I always say that I am oftentimes a year or two ahead of God's timetable.

So....you know better than God what is going to happen?

Attaboy! Your so-called "prophecies' are false - you are indeed a false prophet.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2020-01-06   14:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deckard (#7) (Edited)

You know, it is hard to arrange a good stoning. Walmart sells bags of rocks in various colors for landscaping but they really don't seem suitable for a good old-fashioned stoning. You want small tasteful stones, preferably smooth-surfaced. Not big rocks like the crap rocks that Walmart carries.

Of course, he is a false prophet. The biblical standard is explicit: all prophecies given must come true without exception. You don't get to offer 10 predictions and when only nine come true, you're still a prophet with a score of 90%. Even with 90% accuracy, we are instructed to stone the false prophet to death. And no deviation is allowed. Israel took its prophets seriously.

Tooconservative  posted on  2020-01-06   16:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tooconservative (#8)

Israel took its prophets seriously.

All but one; Jesus but then he was more than a prophet

paraclete  posted on  2020-01-06   16:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: watchman (#6)

'm trying to understand your exegesis if Revelation 16...

It would be most helpful to know, for example, who taught you Revelation?

Or, what are the primary source materials/commentaries that led you to your conclusions about Rev.16?

Thank you for your response and questions.

But no one taught me my (historicist) view Revelation, and there are no source materials or commentaries with the exception of two 16th century sources when the historicist view was virtually the only view of the Revelation (before Whitefield invented the futurist view in the 1700's). One example of an early historicist view is the marginal notes on the Revelation found in some editions of the Geneva Bible, but unfortunately I dont know who wrote them (and I dont think anyone does, they were simply the accepted view at the time). For example the Geneva Bible says St. Constantine is the first horseman and the second Christian conqueror / horseman is Charlemagne (which I fully agree with). Another source is of course Nostradamus (who wrote his predictions at about the same time). That's why some posters on this site call me Nostradamus Junior. But that does not mean that I agree with either one of those historist views beyond that. I like to think my views are entirely my own.

More (on Ch. 16 and what's happening today) later ...

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-06   20:09:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: interpreter (#10)

One example of an early historicist view is the marginal notes on the Revelation found in some editions of the Geneva Bible, but unfortunately I dont know who wrote them (and I dont think anyone does, they were simply the accepted view at the time).

It is pretty well known who wrote the vast majority of the footnotes: John Calvin, John Knox, Miles Coverdale, and many other leaders of the Reformation. So a rabid Presbyterian group of writers produced those footnotes.

The Geneva bible itself is essentially a slightly modernized version of the Tyndale bible along with the subversive footnotes. (Subversive to kings who are tyrants, that is.)

Tooconservative  posted on  2020-01-06   20:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: interpreter (#10) (Edited)

But no one taught me my (historicist) view Revelation...

Yes, I thought I was detecting a historicist view...for which there is actually a very large body of commentary.

The historicist view of Revelation predicts and ascribes specific events (or persons) of history...to specific prophetic events (or persons) listed in Revelation.

The historicist view, while mostly fallen from use, is still followed by the Seventh Day Adventists (and David Koresh/Branch Dividians)

And fair to say, the historicist view has largely been replaced by the futurist (dispensational) view, or the preterist (reformed) view.

The main problem with the historicist view is that each generation of commentors (like yourself) must readjust their view to accommodate the new events of history as history unfolds. The problem compounds as Christ delays His return!

That's why I hold a futurist/dispensationalist view...where all events from Revelation 4:1 onward happen in the future.

watchman  posted on  2020-01-06   22:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tooconservative (#11)

It is pretty well known who wrote the vast majority of the footnotes: John Calvin, John Knox, Miles Coverdale, and many other leaders of the Reformation. So a rabid Presbyterian group of writers produced those footnotes.

You are basically correct, but I wouldn't go so far as to ever call them rabid. And neither were all of them Presbyterians. The Geneva Bible is the Bible that was carried to America by the Pilgrims on the Mayflower, and I seriously doubt that they were all Presbyterians. My point is, at that time (1600 or whenever the Pilgrims arrived) pretty much all Christians on Earth held the historicist view -- even the Roman Catholics and the Anglicans or anyone you want to name, because Whitefield had not invented the ridiculous futurist view yet. There is absolutely no way that all of the events in the Revelation (after Ch. 4) can possibly occur in just 7 years like the futurists say.

"The Geneva bible itself is essentially a slightly modernized version of the Tyndale bible along with the subversive footnotes. (Subversive to kings who are tyrants, that is.)"

Well, it is well known that King James didn't like either one, and that of course is why he wrote his own Bible. That is very ironic because he is the 3rd horseman, who rode a black (racing) horse and conquered the Earth (or most of it) with economics (represented by the scales), and typically without firing a shot, all of which England / Great Britain is quite famous for.

Any guesses as to who the fourth Christian nation / horseman to rule the Earth is?

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-07   0:11:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: watchman (#12)

Yes, I thought I was detecting a historicist view...for which there is actually a very large body of commentary.

The historicist view of Revelation predicts and ascribes specific events (or persons) of history...to specific prophetic events (or persons) listed in Revelation.

The historicist view, while mostly fallen from use, is still followed by the Seventh Day Adventists (and David Koresh/Branch Dividians)

And fair to say, the historicist view has largely been replaced by the futurist (dispensational) view, or the preterist (reformed) view.

The main problem with the historicist view is that each generation of commentors (like yourself) must readjust their view to accommodate the new events of history as history unfolds. The problem compounds as Christ delays His return!

That's why I hold a futurist/dispensationalist view...where all events from Revelation 4:1 onward happen in the future.

Well I dont know anything about the 7th Day Adventists nor care to. It is ironic that you mention David Koresh / Branch Davidians because I was there when the end came for him (watching from a safe distance across the highway on my father-n-law's ranch). But it is news to me that he was a historicist. Did he predict his own death?

It is also ironic that you say you are a dispensationalist. You know of course that with God, one day = 1000 years, and every thousand years, something earth-shaking happens.

On Day One, Adam was created. Exactly 1000 years after Adam, on Day Two, God appeared to Abraham, and promised him the Holy Land (Israel). Exactly 1000 years later, on Day Three, Israel (the man) was born. Exactly 1000 years after that, on Day Four, Israel (the nation) was born. Exactly 1000 years after that, on Day Five, the Messiah (Jesus) was born. (That's how the wise men knew exactly when Jesus would be born).

After His birth, death, and Resurrection, Christianity was united as one for a thousand years. Then, a thousand years later the Pope added one word to the Nicene Creed, causing a great schism and it quickly took peace from the Earth (during the Crusades, and today it has multiplied into tens of thousands of schisms, and led to many un-Godly wars too numerous to count.

At the beginning of Day Seven (this millennium), the Euphrates was dry exactly as prophesied (dried up by Saddam Hussein with the expressed purpose of starting the Battle of Ar Mageddon (prophesied in both the Bible and the Koran to begin on the day that happens).

That is indeed exactly what happened, and right on time on 9/11 (when the lower 50 miles of the Euphrates was bone dry). The Good News is, it will cause all Christians on Earth to be united again (against Islam). The end result is, it results in a thousand years of heaven on Earth. The Seventh Day is also called the "Day of the Lord" and "The Great Day of God Almighty."

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-07   1:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard (#7)

So....you know better than God what is going to happen?

Attaboy! Your so-called "prophecies' are false - you are indeed a false prophet.

Once again, it is hard to fathom why anyone would say that. It is God who said (or signified) what is going to happen (in the Revelation to St. John).

And everything is listed in chronological order, so it really is not hard at all to know what is going to happen next, whether it is within one year or two or perhaps three years. Who cares how many years it will take? Not me. I am just trying to warn people about what is going to happen next so you can be prepared. Also so you will know the Bible (and God) is real and should be heeded.

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-07   1:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tooconservative (#8) (Edited)

You know, it is hard to arrange a good stoning. Walmart sells bags of rocks in various colors for landscaping but they really don't seem suitable for a good old-fashioned stoning. You want small tasteful stones, preferably smooth-surfaced. Not big rocks like the crap rocks that Walmart carries.

Of course, he is a false prophet. The biblical standard is explicit: all prophecies given must come true without exception. You don't get to offer 10 predictions and when only nine come true, you're still a prophet with a score of 90%. Even with 90% accuracy, we are instructed to stone the false prophet to death. And no deviation is allowed. Israel took its prophets seriously.

I realize you are trying to be funny, but I am in no danger of being stoned (except maybe by you) because 100 % of my predictions come true.

And while those words are in the Old Testament, and I being a Jew indeed take them seriously, in the New Testament, Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-07   2:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: interpreter (#14)

On Day One, Adam was created.

Adam was created on Day Six...that wrecks your math right out of the gate.

watchman  posted on  2020-01-07   9:59:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: interpreter (#16)

and I being a Jew

Do you also profess to being a believer in Christ...a Christian?

If you are a convert to Christianity, I would like to hear about your conversion.

watchman  posted on  2020-01-07   10:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: watchman (#17)

Adam was created on Day Six...that wrecks your math right out of the gate.

And here I was, feeling like a genius because I noticed this too.

I guess it isn't exactly rocket surgery if you ever attended a year or more of Sunday school.

Tooconservative  posted on  2020-01-07   10:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: watchman (#17)

Adam was created on Day Six...that wrecks your math right out of the gate.

You have got to be kidding. You are the one who said you are a dispensationalist, not me. I was merely reciting the standard (over 3 thousand year old) dispensational theory. If that is not the theory / view you are talking about, please feel free to correct me. Is there some other dispensational view I dont know about? I am talking about the seven thousand-year reign of man on Earth, which is the only one I've heard about and the one the magi (wise men) were going by in 4 BC when Jesus was born. (The Dead Sea scrolls tell us that).

So what the heck are you talking about? Please inform me, because I really want to know.

Barry Midyet

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-07   12:39:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Tooconservative (#19)

And here I was, feeling like a genius because I noticed this too.

I guess it isn't exactly rocket surgery if you ever attended a year or more of Sunday school.

I have been attending Sunday school for over 70 years, and most of the time I was the teacher. What Sunday school did you attend?

The dispensational theory is very different from the creation story in Genesis. I suppose it may be a spin-off, but I wouldn't know because you would have to ask the wise men of the Qumran community who came up with it. They have been dead for over 2 thousand years now, but you can still read their writings.

Their scrolls have been translated by Mr. Wiseman and (you can't make things like this up), I was one of the first people on Earth to read them. (I have an autographed copy, which was very hard to get unless you are a Jew). Today, Mr. Wiseman is a Christian, and entirely because of the Dead Sea scrolls and the dispensational theory that they embrace. (They are much more than just a theory).

Barry

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-07   13:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: interpreter (#20)

Is there some other dispensational view I dont know about?

I'll just borrow a chart from some random website...(a rather nice simple chart, I must say)

https://eccentricfundamentalist.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/dispensations.jpg

Granted, there are plenty of divisions within dipensationalism but I have NEVER seen where Adam is said to be created on Day One (Day One of what?).

So you will have to provide a link please (I did try searching on it...nothing)

watchman  posted on  2020-01-07   13:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: watchman (#18)

Do you also profess to being a believer in Christ...a Christian?

If you are a convert to Christianity, I would like to hear about your conversion.

Yes, of course. When my ancestors arrived in North Carolina in 1690 they were forced to convert to Christianity because it was highly illegal to be a Jew anywhere in the English colonies (except for New York City which at that time still belonged to the Dutch, and not the English colonists). For over 200 years, my ancestors attended a synagogue on Saturday and Church on Sunday. Unfortunately, that family tradition ended when Grandma married Grandpa. When he announced on the first Saturday that he was going into town to the synagogue, she threw a hissy fit I am told, and it was almost a very short marriage. In the end he gave in of course which is why I am here and my name is Midyet (a Jewish name meaning my ancestors are from Midyet (a city in Asia Minor, now in the hands of the Turks).

My earliest recollection of Church (or anything for that matter) is when I was dedicated as a toddler. Back then, the pastor (of that Church anyhow) was called the prophet, and I distinctly remember the prophetess (when I was being dedicated / baptised) proclaiming that I would become the greatest prophet to ever come out of Matagorda County. I have been trying to live up to that amazing prophecy ever since and it is the reason I am doing what I do.

If you are wondering, I was re-baptised when I reached the age of accountability which means (by definition) I am an Anabaptist, But I wouldn't call myself a "convert" (in the typical Southern Baptist definition of the word) because I cant remember ever not being a Christian.

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-07   14:08:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: watchman (#22)

I'll just borrow a chart from some random website...(a rather nice simple chart, I must say)

https://eccentricfundamentalist.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/dispensations.jpg

Granted, there are plenty of divisions within dipensationalism but I have NEVER seen where Adam is said to be created on Day One (Day One of what?).

So you will have to provide a link please (I did try searching on it...nothing)

Even on your (eccentric) chart, Day one of the dispensational theory is Eden (meaning of course the creation of Adam and Eve). That's the way all dispensation charts begin, bar none. For the life of me, I cant figure out what you are trying to say. Also, your chart does not stick to standard 1000- year days which means it is not entirely legitimate.

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-07   14:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: interpreter (#24)

Even on your (eccentric) chart

Barry, that chart, (well, something a bit more academic looking), is taught in every dispensational evangelical Bible college/Bible school in the U.S. and beyond.

If I had time I'd scan and post a dispensations chart from my systematic theology notes dating back thirty plus years ago...

"Eccentric" is you posting an article "2020 in Bible Prophecy" and start prophesying "Plagues", "Ar Mageddon" (which by no means has started yet!), and "nations not wearing a wedding garment" being booted out of NATO...that, sir, is eccentric.

"Eccentric" is also saying that you, the now dead wise men of the Qumran community, and Mr. Wiseman are the only ones privy to the material upon which you base your "annual prognostications".

Aside from that, I am thankful you and Mr. Wiseman are believers in Christ.

watchman  posted on  2020-01-07   15:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: interpreter (#24) (Edited)

standard 1000- year days

Well, scripture explains that a thousand years are as a day to God.

Scripture does not say that this day that is like a thousand years to us is an actual and exact one thousand years.

It seems to really mix and match literal and figurative terms in ways that make no sense at all.

2 Peter 3:

5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

When we read this passage, we discover that it isn't actually telling us that each Day is a thousand years. The writer of this passage would scarcely even understand why it is that we would want to read it that way, let alone have any reasonable cause to actually read it that way. Even so, there are people who do read it that way (ahem...the Left Behinder types).

Tooconservative  posted on  2020-01-07   18:09:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Tooconservative, interpreter (#26)

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

When Barry paraphrased to me the above Scripture he used only the first half of the verse..."one day = thousand years"

As you have noted, the second half of the verse brings the meaning of the verse back into balance..."and a thousand years as one day".

When young theologians begin their studies they are warned continuously, "Never build your doctrine on one verse of Scripture!"

How much more so, then, should one avoid building one's theology on a HALF verse of Scripture...

watchman  posted on  2020-01-07   18:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: watchman (#27) (Edited)

As you have noted, the second half of the verse brings the meaning of the verse back into balance..."and a thousand years as one day".

Beware the bible teacher or preacher who is a verse-chopper.

Billy Graham was notorious for it. It's strange how many people never noticed he was pulling the punch lines out of some of the most important verses, and thereby presenting his own ecumenical easy-believerism.

When you chop off the most important part of the verse, you have altered scripture and incur the penalties for adding to or removing from legitimate scripture.

When young theologians begin their studies they are warned continuously, "Never build your doctrine on one verse of Scripture!"

Baptists tend to say that important doctrine is never found in a single verse. Any old-time Baptist preacher could preach almost any topic on that basis. Same sentiment, I think.

It's when you hang your entire theology on a single verse that you are most likely to be in trouble. If that verse is found in the Old Testament, it is guaranteed that you are already in deep trouble.

Tooconservative  posted on  2020-01-07   19:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Tooconservative, watchman, interpreter (#28)

When you chop off the most important part of the verse, you have altered scripture and incur the penalties for adding to or removing from legitimate scripture.

I read that somewhere - where was that again? Oh yeah :

Revelation 22:18-19

I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2020-01-07   20:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Deckard (#29)

Revelation 22:18-19

There are also other warnings against altering scripture and against false teachers. Also commands to help scribes concentrate on their copying work (not to stop writing a line even if a king commands them to stop), ways for a scribe to checksum and check the accuracy of a copy.

Tooconservative  posted on  2020-01-07   21:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: watchman (#25)

Barry, that chart, (well, something a bit more academic looking), is taught in every dispensational evangelical Bible college/Bible school in the U.S. and beyond.

If I had time I'd scan and post a dispensations chart from my systematic theology notes dating back thirty plus years ago...

"Eccentric" is you posting an article "2020 in Bible Prophecy" and start prophesying "Plagues", "Ar Mageddon" (which by no means has started yet!), and "nations not wearing a wedding garment" being booted out of NATO...that, sir, is eccentric.

"Eccentric" is also saying that you, the now dead wise men of the Qumran community, and Mr. Wiseman are the only ones privy to the material upon which you base your "annual prognostications".

Aside from that, I am thankful you and Mr. Wiseman are believers in Christ.

First, I did not call it an "eccentric" dispensational chart. Whoever posted it did and I was simply repeating what I read.

But let me start over. I did misspeak a bit, because your whatever-you-want- to-call-it chart is correct in saying Day 2 began with Noah, and I was wrong in saying Abraham because he was born a bit later in Day Two.

Most of the time, because I dont have a reliable Internet connection, I have to type fast for fear the net will go down and I will have to retype everything. So I typically dont take the time to fact check everything. Anyhow, I apologize for that pretty major blooper.

But my main point in my previous post was that both the wise men in 4BC and "every dispensational evangelical Bible college/Bible school in the U.S. and beyond" agree that Day One (or the first Dispensation) began with the creation of Adam. Yet for some reason you said that wasn't true and told me to look at the eccentric chart -- which says exactly the same thing I said, only it substitutes "Eden" for "Adam." What do you think happened in the Garden of Eden? Focusing on (and arguing about) mere symantics is the very definition of "eccentric."

Any how, I am also glad that you are a Christian, and since I am the one always preaching that all Christians need to learn to get along (and unite against the Satanic forces that surround us), I honestly do not want this thread to devolve into name-calling. So lets focus on what's important, shall we?

Before closing out the discussion of Day One (the first thousand-year dispensation, I need to point out that virtually all archeologists agree 100 % with the Bible that modern (or civilized) man was created in Eden (or Mesopotamia as they call it), and precisely when the Bible says -- between 4004 to 4000 BC. Before that our species were merely semi-intelligent apes (they say).

Moving on, the 2nd thousand-year dispensation began in 3000 BC (or thereabouts) which is about when Noah was born, and also at the beginning of Day 2, some major flooding of Eden / Mesopotamia began to occur. According to archeological evidence and ancient writings left by the Sumerians, it began between 3000 to 2900 BC, and culminated with Noah's great flood, about 500 to 600 years later. They caused modern man to disperse, and to conquer and replace the semi-intelligent apes that once dominated most all of the (known) world. Archeologists also agree that big boats (like Noah's) came into existence at exactly the time the Bible says. They greatly helped in the dispersal of modern man.

The Bible always agrees with the historical facts. More on the other Days of man's creation later ...

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-08   2:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: interpreter (#31)

Before that our species were merely semi-intelligent apes (they say).

Barry, did you ever feel that you needed to say something, but when you opened your mouth to speak...no words would come out?

That's me right now...

watchman  posted on  2020-01-08   10:58:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: watchman (#25)

Eccentric" is you posting an article "2020 in Bible Prophecy" and start prophesying "Plagues", "Ar Mageddon" (which by no means has started yet!), and "nations not wearing a wedding garment" being booted out of NATO...that, sir, is eccentric.

"Eccentric" is also saying that you, the now dead wise men of the Qumran community, and Mr. Wiseman are the only ones privy to the material upon which you base your "annual prognostications".

OK, I'll skip Days 3 thru 5 of the seven 1000-year dispensations because (I think) we pretty much agree on them, and move on to Day 6 (the 6th millennium).

As I already stated it began with the Pope adding one word to the Nicene Creed which led to the Great Schism (and since then thousands of schisms in the Church). It also led to the Great Tribulation commonly known as World War II. It lasted precisely 3 1/2 years (on the 360-day "Sacred calendar" used in most Bible prophecies. (From Dec. 6th, 1941 till the death of the antiChrist (Hitler) is precisely 1260 days, exactly as prophesied. In Daniel it is the first half of the 70th week. By the end of the second half Israel became a nation again -- largely because of the 144,000 male Jews sealed from harm who escaped the gas chambers by fleeing to the Holy Land where (most of them) helped form the new Israeli army.

more later ...

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-08   15:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: interpreter (#33)

The Great Tribulation will last seven years.

The 144,000 will be from all the tribes of Israel, not just Judah.

You say we descend from "semi-intelligent apes"...but...we are also created.

You're making all this up...having a bit of a laugh. Why?

watchman  posted on  2020-01-08   16:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: watchman (#34)

The Great Tribulation will last seven years.

The 144,000 will be from all the tribes of Israel, not just Judah.

You say we descend from "semi-intelligent apes"...but...we are also created.

You're making all this up...having a bit of a laugh. Why?

Nope. The great Tribulation lasts 3 1/2 years. (See Revelation 11). And a war is not a world war until the US enters it.

Rev. 11 expands on and explains Daniel's "70th week" which is divided into 2 halves. The first half is fulfilled twice. From when the abomination of desolation appears in the Holy Spot -- identified (correctly) by the Patriarch of Jerusalem as Caliph Omar standing in the Holy Spot in 638 AD -- until the end of the trampling of Jerusalem by Muslims (at end of WW I) is precisely 1260 years as prophesied. Following that the next head of the Satanic beast -- Hitler and his Third Reich (or third six of 666 trilogy) -- appears and kills a lot (tens of millions) of God's two witnesses (Jews and Christions) in the Great Tribulation, which is said to last 1260 days (and did).

3 1/2 years after that, after the 144,000 sealed Jews arrive in Israel and Israel is resurrected (in the second half of Daniel's 70th week0, the remaining Jews (in the concentration camps and looking half-dead) are told to "Come up here" and then they fly through the air to the Promised Land (Israel). That was fulfilled by Operation "Magic Carpet."

Immediately following the 70th week, the seven last plagues, beginning with skin cancer, are said to begin (and did). I am living proof (I've had about 30 removed).

More later ...

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-10   12:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: interpreter (#35)

You have a very interesting, and dare I say, unique view of eschatology.

I cannot even begin to discuss your view with you, simply because it is so very different from any that I have ever studied.

A couple of questions:

1. How did so many theological minds, biblical scholars of church history, come away with an entirely different understanding of Daniel and Revelation than you did?

2. Did God create mankind back in Eden, or did we descend from semi-intelligent apes? Which one?

Thirty skin cancers! I hope the doctors have finally gotten them all. And I hope you find good health.

watchman  posted on  2020-01-10   12:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: watchman (#36)

You have a very interesting, and dare I say, unique view of eschatology.

I cannot even begin to discuss your view with you, simply because it is so very different from any that I have ever studied.

A couple of questions:

1. How did so many theological minds, biblical scholars of church history, come away with an entirely different understanding of Daniel and Revelation than you did?

2. Did God create mankind back in Eden, or did we descend from semi-intelligent apes? Which one?

Thirty skin cancers! I hope the doctors have finally gotten them all. And I hope you find good health.

To answer your two questions:

1. My view is not exactly unique. The Orthodox Church(es) have been teaching for almost 1400 years now that Omar is / was the abomination of desolation standing in the Holy Spot. And like I already said, the Geneva Bible carried by the Pilgrims on the Mayflower also teaches the historicist view of eschatology. It is the futurist view that is new.

2. God created modern man in the Garden of Eden. But as any and all archealists will tell you, Neanderthals and other semi-intelligent "cave men" existed before Adam and Eve. Hopefully, you don't believe the earth and everything else was literally created in just six 24-hour days. The Hebrew word "yom" which is mistakenly translated as "day" in most English Bibles literally means "time period." And some of the "days" in the creation story are in reality about 500 million years, according to (most) archealogists and Earth-scientists. If the Bible doesn't agree with the facts, we might as well throw it in the trash.

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-11   16:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: interpreter (#37)

Hopefully, you don't believe the earth and everything else was literally created in just six 24-hour days.

I do believe in the literal '24 hour day' and the 6 days of creation. Why shouldn't I believe it. For nothing is impossible with God. He is, after all, called our Creator.

If the Bible doesn't agree with the facts

Scientific theories aren't facts. (You should search out Ken Ham "Answers In Genesis")

watchman  posted on  2020-01-11   17:30:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: watchman (#36)

Thirty skin cancers! I hope the doctors have finally gotten them all. And I hope you find good health.

I dont have to worry anymore about skin cancers, thank God.

Last plague # 1 is designed to punish the NAZI's and all people who worship the image they worshipped (the Aryan image and especially the sun-tanned Aryan image). It ends when of the last NAZI is dead. It is hard to find out much info on that in other countries, but in the US, the last NAZI was arrested and deported to Germany in December of 2018, and he died in January of 2019 (during his trial).

Besides that, the ozone hole (that is the main cause of skin cancer) is now closed (which also occurred about the same time (in January, 2019). Therefore I have not developed any new skin cancers since that time and do not expect to.

Barry Midyet

interpreter  posted on  2020-01-11   17:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: interpreter (#39)

Last plague # 1 is designed to punish the NAZI's and all people who worship the image they worshipped

Can you show me in the Bible where it mentions the Nazi's, or can you show me how you came to that conclusion.

And Barry...stay out of the sun!

watchman  posted on  2020-01-11   17:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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