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Title: The Bloomberg Factor
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Published: Nov 8, 2019
Author: Vicomte13
Post Date: 2019-11-08 10:26:16 by Vicomte13
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Views: 13998
Comments: 91

He might just do it.

Michael Bloomberg, billionaire 38-times-over and former two-term successful Republican, then Independent, Mayor of New York, may enter the 2020 Presidential race.

Apparently, he has been indicating to his inner circle that he does not want to run, and did not intend to, because he expected Joe Biden to be the Democrat nominee.

But now that Biden is fading fast, and Elizabeth Warren with her very socialistic ideas appears poised to win the nomination, Bloomberg is apparently going to step in to run for the Democrat nominations.

For my part, I have little doubt that if he does, he will win that nomination, and having done so, will then go on to win the presidency.

The election will be a "battle of the billionaires", but Bloomberg will be a very compelling candidate for Independents, for NeverTrump Republicans (Democrats will always vote for the Democrat nominee regardless).

Bloomberg would likely be a very good President.

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#52. To: Vicomte13 (#51)

I have no desire to "stick it" to the 1%.

Do you want to make a bet that I can't find you saying that you want to stick it to the rich? I think I can find multiple posts of yours that say that you do want to stick it to the rich.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-11-19   10:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Vicomte13 (#51)

Your first post about the first two world wars is severely lacking in a historical perspective. It’s people EXACTLY like Bloomberg who started the first, which led to the second. It had absolutely nothing to do with ‘stepping away from the world’ as you put it. Rather, it was a planned provocation against the German people by very powerful banking interests.

www.globalresearch.ca/hid...e-first-world-war/5600090

The popular narrative is of course bullshit.

The rest of the word salad can be summed up by your tell about my opinions forever being in the minority due to demographics is pretty solid. I recognize people who’s opinions that are close to mine will have no voice soon. Ya, it’s true. We will see more and more Ilhan Omar’s, more AOCs, more Maxine Waters’ etc. making laws and appointing judges.

You seem to want to roll over and give them the inch already, not seeing how it will end for you and yours. Leftists are quick to scream demographics are destiny, and are not quite bright enough to see exactly where it WILL lead.

I wish your family luck. I’m sure if you think the left will give you the same treatment that Tolstoy received , well, good luck with that as well.

'What kind of man gives cigarettes to trees?'

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2019-11-19   11:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: A K A Stone (#52)

Do you want to make a bet that I can't find you saying that you want to stick it to the rich? I think I can find multiple posts of yours that say that you do want to stick it to the rich.

So? If I were to go sorting through your comments and words over the last 20 years of your life, and string them together, you'd sound like a poop-slinging monkey. I don't do that, because it accomplishes nothing. I'd spare myself the effort, if I were you. Because, you know, INTERNET and hyperbole go together like apple pie and cheese.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-11-19   16:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Dead Culture Watch (#53)

You seem to want to roll over and give them the inch already, not seeing how it will end for you and yours.

I don't advocate rolling over for anybody. On the things I want to see them a advance on, I want to see that advance because they're right.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-11-19   16:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Dead Culture Watch (#53) (Edited)

Rather, it was a planned provocation against the German people by by by very powerful banking interests.

The Germans were aggressive barbarians who attacked their neighbors, and lost. Unable to learn from their mistakes, they did it again, harder, and lost again, much harder.

They learned after the second time around.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-11-19   16:06:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Vicomte13 (#56)

I see you didn’t read the link. The First World War was a travesty, and not at all started by the Germans.

'What kind of man gives cigarettes to trees?'

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2019-11-19   18:13:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Vicomte13 (#55)

Advance sounds a lot like ‘progress’.

Once you’ve bitten from the apple of the government being the arbiter of who gets what, rather than being a government that secures the liberty of the people, well, you’re just the other side of the coin in a crime spree.

I see zero difference between you and those you have disdain for.

Again, the real problems are caused by things you don’t address, like population replacement and growth, and not the dog and pony of the so called left/right. (The parameters of acceptable discourse, wherein everyone has agreed to just put lipstick on a dying pig.)

'What kind of man gives cigarettes to trees?'

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2019-11-19   18:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Dead Culture Watch (#57)

I see you didn’t read the link. The First World War was a travesty, and not at all started by the Germans.

No link can change the fact that the Germans invaded Belgium and France in 1914, starting the world war, not the reverse. Neither France nor Belgium invaded Germany. Germany invaded them, starting the war, and killing and crippling millions of Frenchmen and Belgians in the process.

What happened in the East, between Serbia and Austria, Germany and Russia, were the problem for those Eastern countries. When the Germans lunged WESTWARDS, because their own war plans were rigid and didn't allow for any other contingency, they elected to start a world war. Later, they elected to attack shipping, including neutral American shipping, with their submarines, causing great loss of life, and bringing the Americans into the war, thereby sealing their own fate.

Nothing in your link can change the well-known reality of the past 100 years, and nobody can bring back all of those innocent French and Belgians who died due to naked German military imperialism. The Germans started both World Wars, and the Allies ended them.

Had the Germans been intelligent, their military planners should have seen that they could not possibly beat the Allies in either war, and they should have come to a negotiated settlement they would not have liked very much (because the weaker party is never happy with the outcome of negotiations with the strong). Instead, they were hotheads, went to war, and were ultimately destroyed.

World War I was Germany's fault, because Germany made it a war by unilaterially attacking Belgium and France.

From the American perspective, in both wars with Germany, the Germans initiated war by sinking American ships. In the second war, Germany outright declared war first, and immediately went after American ships.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-11-20   9:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Dead Culture Watch (#58)

The pig ain't dying. The American economy and population are growing, and American power in the world continues to expand into those crannies where it formerly was not.

Government always has been the final arbiter of disputes, because individuals do not have the right to resort to violence to get their way, and the courts belong to the government. This was as true 400 years ago as it is today.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-11-20   9:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Vicomte13 (#60)

the courts belong to the government

What is government of the people, by the people, for the people; and how does that fit into the context of the difference between the Rule of Law, and the Rule of Men?

Judas Goat  posted on  2019-11-20   9:49:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Peromischievous leucopus (#61)

What is government of the people, by the people, for the people; and how does that fit into the context of the difference between the Rule of Law, and the Rule of Men?

It is a line in a speech from Abraham Lincoln, specifically, the Gettysburg Address.

As far as legal force in that line: there is none. It was a rhetorical device in a speech by a President who died 154 years ago.

As far as a descriptor of what America is, it's pretty good. We have a government "OF the people", meaning that it is manned, top to bottom, by citizens. It is a government "BY the people" both because the initial establishment of the government was through a popular revolution, and because the people selected to be the rulers are selected by the people in elections. It is a government "FOR the people", because the government's purpose is to better the life of the people in various ways - by 'establishing justice, providing for the common defense, promoting the general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty with each new generation'.

The government has done a pretty good - not perfect, but pretty good - job of doing that (at least compared to other governments in the world.

As are as "Rule of Law" versus "Rule of Men" goes, that is simply a matter of the distinction between law and prerogative. Absolute onarchies and their republican homologues: distatorships, both vest absolute power in a man, who then delegates his power to subordinates he selects. This government appartus of ruler and satraps then has discretionary control over everything. They decide what the law will be, case by case, as an emanation of their own will and opinion. A just ruler will have just laws, and an unjust ruler, unjust laws. The law itself is the personal opinion of a man or a small cabal of men.

Rule of Law, by contrast, means that laws, established through normal and predictable processes, governs the behavior of ALL men, including the rulers, and the rulers can be held accountable to the law.

The concepts fit together with democratic republican government, because the legislators are chosen by the people, as are executives and, either directly or indirectly, judges - they're all subject to the laws they pass, and imposing or changing law requires process.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-11-20   10:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Vicomte13 (#62) (Edited)

As far as legal force in that line: there is none.

Oh, well, what about a moral force?

The law itself is the personal opinion of a man or a small cabal of men.

Organized Criminal predators certainly seem to act like it is -- Especially when securing the inalienable rights of the prey contradicts the feeding of the predatory, self-worshiping, cabal.

chosen by the people

Not chosen by the cabal (or the vanguard elite), are you sure?

Judas Goat  posted on  2019-11-20   10:47:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Peromischievous leucopus (#63)

Not chosen by the cabal (or the vanguard elite), are you sure?

Given that TRUMP won the election, and BOTH sides have been tearing their hair out and bleeding out the eyeballs ever since, yeah, pretty sure.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-11-20   11:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Vicomte13 (#64)

Given that TRUMP won the election

You mean "Our Boy".

What was FBI informant Felix Sater (sometimes Satter) doing in the Trump organization anyhow?

Judas Goat  posted on  2019-11-20   11:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Peromischievous leucopus (#65)

I heard your homely wife milks cows and all the neighbors vxh.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-11-20   15:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Peromischievous leucopus (#65)

What was FBI informant Felix Sater (sometimes Satter) doing in the Trump organization anyhow?

I don't follow inside baseball. No idea.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-11-20   16:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Vicomte13 (#64)

BOTH sides

You mean both facades of the two-party dialectic cattle chute that America's founders warned against inflicting on their republic.

Judas Goat  posted on  2019-11-20   16:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Peromischievous leucopus (#68)

You mean both facades of the two-party dialectic cattle chute that America's founders warned against inflicting on their republic.

George Washington warned against parties. The Founders in general eagerly engaged in partisanship as soon as the country started.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-11-21   7:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Vicomte13 (#67)

VXH and his Felix Slater nonsense again. The guy is a head case.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-11-21   8:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: A K A Stone (#70)

Judas Goat  posted on  2019-11-21   23:26:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: A K A Stone (#70)

Felix Slater nonsense

LOL.  For being such a nobody Ol' Felix sure does get your and ol Tight Shirt Tom Fitton's panties in a bunch.

"It was Andrew Weissmann who, as supervising assistant U.S. attorney, signed the agreement that brought Sater on as a government informant. Federal prosecutors wrote a letter to Sater’s sentencing judge on August 27, 2009, in an effort to get him a lighter sentence: “Sater’s cooperation was of a depth and breadth rarely seen.”

Sater also was reportedly a CIA informant in the mid-2000s for the CIA during his undercover work with Russian military and intelligence officers."
https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/judicial-watch-sues-doj-for-docs-on-fbi-cia-informant-in-trump-organization/


Judas Goat  posted on  2019-11-21   23:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Peromischievous leucopus (#72)

LOL. For being such a nobody Ol' Felix sure does get your and ol Tight Shirt Tom Fitton's panties in a bunch.

Trump won and will stay in office. Israel is the good guys. You are a douche bag that needs flushed.

You aren't worth debating you are to stupid.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-11-22   7:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: A K A Stone (#73)

You aren't worth debating you are to stupid.


To is a preposition with several meanings, including “toward” and “until.” Too is an adverb that can mean “excessively” or “also.” Just to be clear: two is pronounced the same as to and too, but it can't be used instead of either of them because it's a number.

To vs. Too: How Should You Use To and Too? | Grammarly
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/to-too/

Judas Goat  posted on  2019-11-22   8:30:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: A K A Stone (#73) (Edited)

Israel is the good guys.

Nuthinyahoo, leader of the Sister of Sodom, has been indicted and will be facing judgement soon too.


What's it like, in your personal experience, to be made out of plastic?

(see, that's how to and too are used)

Which moral American first principles do you believe Trump and his cult personify most succinctly?

Judas Goat  posted on  2019-11-22   8:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Vicomte13 (#62)

Michael Bloomberg is on video talking about how much he likes to raise taxes on poor people, calling such tax hikes a “good thing.” He also referred to low income individuals as "those people." “Some people say, well, taxes are regressive. But in this case, yes they are. That's the good thing about them because the problem is in people that don't have a lot of money. And so, higher taxes should have a bigger impact on their behavior and how they deal with themselves. If you raise taxes on full sugary drinks, for example, they will drink less and...

www.atr.org/flashback-blo...g-taxes-poor-people-good- thing

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-11-29   8:08:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: A K A Stone (#76)

Bloombwerg had a shot. But you're right, the way he launched this plays to his weaknesses. He's going the same route as Giuliani, and will not be the nominee. I expected him to do much better, but he's already done. Biden will be the nominee.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-12-02   6:35:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: A K A Stone (#70)

VXH and his Felix Slater nonsense again. The guy is a head case.

Ah yes the pseudo names change but the rhetoric remains the same, that happens quite frequently at the chit chat channels especially the ones that have political content.

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2019-12-02   7:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Vicomte13 (#4)

And, when it comes to the battle of billionaires, anything Trump can do, Bloomberg can do better. There will be a lot of confidence in Bloomberg from the beginning.

His platform will be the same as it was in New York: I'm a competent manager of money and people and competing interests, obviously. I'll use that skill to run the country better. I'm non-partisan, and I don't like drama.

Bloomberg will win in an landslide, and he'll be a fantastic President. He's got a 12 year public track record and a 40 year private sector career record. He's a humble, practical guy. He will apply his obvious intelligence and leadership to run the country as successfully as he ran New York and Bloomberg enterprises. And he'll do it without drama.

Trump made fun of him for his height today (Bloomberg is 5' 8"). If there were something else to attack Bloomberg on, he would. There isn't. If Bloomberg runs, Trump is toast.

Uh Huh.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-02-25   8:18:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: A K A Stone (#79)

Bloomberg is 5'8" when wearing 4" high heels...which I hear he does quite regularly...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2020-02-25   8:21:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Mudboy Slim (#80)

Bloomberg is 5'8" when wearing 4" high heels...which I hear he does quite regularly...MUD

I don't think so. Bloomburg actually makes sense at times.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-02-25   8:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Dead Culture Watch (#57)

"The First World War was a travesty, and not at all started by the Germans..."

While technically accurate, Germany and Austria were the two most formidable nations on the continent, and my impression of history is that they were spoiling for a fight.

Please correct me if me impression is wrong, DCW...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2020-02-25   8:30:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: A K A Stone (#81)

Bloomburg actually makes sense at times.

At times, perhaps he does. Other times he comes across as a bumbling billionaire idiot. He is but one in a host of idiots we label Democrats.

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2020-02-25   8:45:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: IbJensen (#83)

"...bumbling billionaire idiot."

Amazing ability to insert his foot in his mouth, and I am barely scratching the surface of looking into his political foubles. It appears that decades of autocRATic control of his media empire has left him surrounded by Yes-men and Yes- womyn who do not challenge his ideologies...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2020-02-25   9:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: A K A Stone (#81)

Hey Stone, for the record, I am not seriously accusing MiniMike of pulling a J. Edgar Hoover and dressing in drag, but I am asserting that he is shorter than 68"...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2020-02-25   10:01:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: A K A Stone (#79)

Uh Huh.

Tonight's a big test. If Bloomberg comes back from his last debate performance swinging, and re-establishes himself in the race, Super Tuesday could be interesting.

And if he plays the longer game, as long as Bernie does not outright win the majority of delegates, at a brokered convention his money could simply buy him the nomination even if he was not a top vote getter.

I still think that Bloomberg is the most formidable rival Trump could face, and I've very much hoping that Bernie continues to surge, boosted by Republicans voting in the Democrat primary. That's definitely who we want to face in the general.

Vicomte13  posted on  2020-02-25   18:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Vicomte13 (#86) (Edited)

Dammit but I tried to watch the RAT Debate and lasted less than 10 minutes...lol. Still too many people on the stage...seemed like a free-for-all with everyone interrupting and raising their hands and seeing who can project their hatred for Trump the loudest and most convincingly. Life's too friggin short to listen to that RAT Whiner Brigade...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2020-02-25   21:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Mudboy Slim (#87)

Soon it will be just Bernie versus Trump, and then the fun begins.

Bernie should hire Larry David from the SNL skit as his body double. David's impression of Bernie Sanders is actually better than Bernie himself.

Bernie can sit in the backroom and strategize, and Larry David can go win the election for him.

Vicomte13  posted on  2020-02-28   11:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Vicomte13 (#88)

'Tis gonna be a hoot...I don't think Bernie wears well, and he doesn't look all that healthy either. I mean, I worry about him surviving a Presidential campaign, let alone a 4-year term...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2020-02-28   13:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: All (#88)

Soon it will be just Bernie versus Trump, and then the fun begins.

I guess I was hoping too much. Biden is the Democratic Establishment's choice, so it'll be him, exploding eyeballs and all.

Vicomte13  posted on  2020-03-05   8:16:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Vicomte13 (#88)

Larry David can go win the election for him

Maybe Larry could re-enact that scene where he urinates on a picture of Christ...

watchman  posted on  2020-03-05   8:27:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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