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Title: Neil DeGrasse Tyson Dismisses and Mocks Bible Account of Creation From Genesis-to-Revelation; (Laughs at Believers in Literal Bible as "Un-enlightened")
Source: ThePottersClay
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRt0FKeorlM
Published: May 18, 2016
Author: ThePottersClay
Post Date: 2019-10-15 11:15:53 by Liberator
Keywords: deGrasse-Tyson, Space, God
Views: 654
Comments: 21

2 Timothy 3:16-17
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works"

So If all scripture is true then.....

1 Chronicles 16:30
"the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved."

Psalm 96:10
"the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved"

Psalm 93:1
"the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved."

It's pretty clear the bible says we aren't moving...




1 Samuel 2:8
" for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them."

Job 9:6
"Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble."

Psalm 75:3
"The earth and all who dwell in it melt; It is I who have firmly set its pillars."

Strong's Hebrew: 4690. מָצוּק (matsuq) -- molten support, pillar



Matthew 4:8
"Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them"

Isaiah 52:8
"...for every eye will see when the Lord returns..."

Revelation 1:7
"Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him"

All impossible on a ball, and only works on a flat earth.




Matthew 24:29
"...the stars shall fall from heaven"

Mark 13:25
"...and the stars of heaven shall fall"

Revelation 6:13
"And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth..."

Jesus himself told us the stars would fall to the earth. If what we have been taught about stars is true, how can this be? Why would Jesus say something that wasn't true if he himself is "The Truth".




Ezekiel 1:25
"And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads,"

Ezekiel 1:26
"And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne"

Genesis 1:6
"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters."

(Strongs Number H7549: Extended surface (solid), Firmament (supporting waters above))
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Job 26:10
"He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end."

Definition of Compass - to go around (something) in a circular course.
Definition of Bounds - a limiting line : boundary

We call the bounds Job is referring to Antarctica.... it is also the ends of the earth. (It's also "south")
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Isaiah 40:22
"It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth"

Isaiah knew the difference in a circle and a ball.

Isaiah 22:18
"And roll you tightly like a ball, To be cast into a vast country"

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Genesis 1:14-17 "The Fourth Day"
"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth"

So if God created the entire universe on the fourth day (sun, moon, and stars), then what the heck were we orbiting on the first three days? How fast were we going? 1,913,785mph? Or maybe God put the Earth in gear after creating the rest of the Universe... To what extent are we willing to disregard scripture to fit what we are being told by people that clearly worship Lucifer and will no longer let us say the name Jesus?

Joshua 10:12
"...he said in the sight of Israel, "O sun, stand still at Gibeon, And O moon in the valley of Aijalon." So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped"

Nowhere does it say that Joshua told the earth to stop spinning, in fact the bible never refers to the earth ever spinning in the first place. It does however reference the sun moving on 67 different occasions.

http://www.fixedearth.com/sixty-seven...

That's 67 moving sun verses and Zero moving earth verses for those keeping score at home. The reason for this is that the earth is not moving, and the close sun is circling us over head along with everything else just like the bible says.

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1 Corinthians 3:19
"For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness."

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#1. To: Liberator (#0)

Listening to him, I think he states things as well as I could have expected to.

And he makes a good point. Does not the Book of Revelations state that stars will fall from the sky to the earth? If you take it literally, then.... you must believe either the stars have to be small enough to do something like that, or .... something was lost in the translation to English?

Pinguinite  posted on  2019-10-15   20:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Liberator (#0)

The fool say these is no God, so I rest my case, Tyson is a fool

paraclete  posted on  2019-10-15   21:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Pinguinite (#1)

Does not the Book of Revelations state that stars will fall from the sky to the earth? If you take it literally, then.... you must believe either the stars have to be small enough to do something like that, or .... something was lost in the translation to English?

The Greek word for "stars" here in the Rev. 6:13 is 'asteres' (where the modern day word asteroid comes from).

The word "star" in the Bible has multiple uses, including:

Christ the "morning star" ..."I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.” Rev. 22:16

Fallen angels "and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth". Rev. 9:1

watchman  posted on  2019-10-15   21:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: watchman (#3)

The Greek word for "stars" here in the Rev. 6:13 is 'asteres' (where the modern day word asteroid comes from).

Fair enough.

Pinguinite  posted on  2019-10-15   22:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: paraclete (#2)

The fool say these is no God, so I rest my case, Tyson is a fool

If Tyson said that, he didn't say it in this clip. Even so, your retort completely dodges his points.

Pinguinite  posted on  2019-10-15   22:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: watchman (#3)

Correct. A "star" is a bright dot in the sky. Fusion stars (what we call "stars") are stars. So are planets, asteroids, satellites, meteors, comets - any white dot in the sky is a star.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-10-16   7:51:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Vicomte13 (#6)

So are planets, asteroids, satellites, meteors, comets

Back in March I saw a fireball strike the atmosphere over New England. It passed from north to south and would have been almost directly over your head in Connecticut.

I have seen tons of meteors but this fireball was something to behold!

watchman  posted on  2019-10-16   8:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: watchman (#7)

"Waiting for a star to fall..."

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-10-16   9:47:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vicomte13 (#8)

"Waiting for a star to fall..."

I checked. Name of a song by Boy meets Girl. You sentimental fool :-)

watchman  posted on  2019-10-16   10:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Pinguinite (#1)

He makes a good point.

Does not the Book of Revelations state that stars will fall from the sky to the earth? If you take it literally, then.... you must believe either the stars have to be small enough to do something like that, or .... something was lost in the translation to English?

DeGrasse makes the point Unbelievers and naysayers of the Bible and God's Word would make. Yes, Revelation *does* state that paraphrasing, "the stars WILL fall from the sky to the earth."

Believers have no reason to believe God is lying, or that the interpretation or "translation" is erroneous. The "Lights" within the Firmament ARE the Stars. But because "Science" and deGrasse-Tyson have sold their "Stars-are-unfathomly-HUGE!" anti-God account (as well as the unfathomable distances of "millions of Light Years," there is the tendency to dismiss Scripture as either "Fairy Tales," parables," or metaphors.

Genesis 1:14 (KJV):

"Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years"

Revelation, 6:12-14 (Berean Study Bible):

"And when I saw the Lamb open the sixth seal, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black like sackcloth of goat hair, and the whole moon turned blood red, and the stars of the sky fell to the earth, like unripe figs dropping from a tree shaken by a great wind. The sky receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved from its place.…

Liberator  posted on  2019-10-16   15:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: paraclete (#2)

Amen.

Liberator  posted on  2019-10-16   15:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Pinguinite (#5) (Edited)

Even so, your retort completely dodges his points.

Tyson conveniently wants science, that is; various theories which are continually being revised to be taught and religion ignored. You may not think this is denying God but I have another opinion. God told us how it started, science has not been able to disprove this. The only thing that is challenged is dating based on geneologies but our methods of dating are not very accurate As to falling stars, asteroids, some of which are big enough to be "stars", are falling all the time, noone said the meteor shower of Revelation will happen all at once, but it might.

I think Tyson would serve us better if he examined the events of 3,500 years ago from an astrological perspective. The Bible certainly told us some interesting things were going on

paraclete  posted on  2019-10-17   8:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: paraclete, Pinguinite (#12) (Edited)

God told us how it started, science has not been able to disprove this. The only thing that is challenged is dating based on geneologies but our methods of dating are not very accurate

Science can't prove any "science" Tyson claims. His (as well as "Science" and NASA's claims) remain theories.

And yes, I agree -- God indeed gave His account of Creation; Also documented is the dating of man, and his genealogy starting with Adam. Yet "Science" expects the thinking-man to just willy-nilly accept what is it's theory of time, space, and matter as "fact"?? (right -- their "dating" methodologies are notoriously inconsistent, inaccurate, and plain wrong.)

As to falling stars, asteroids, some of which are big enough to be "stars", are falling all the time, noone said the meteor shower of Revelation will happen all at once, but it might.

According to Revelation, 6:12-14, (Sixth Seal unveiled) God appears to unravel the entire sky under the Firmament -- including stars of course.

I think Tyson would serve us better if he examined the events of 3,500 years ago from an astrological perspective. The Bible certainly told us some interesting things were going on

Humanists and militant Atheists like the cartoonish Tyson believe Carl Sagan is their "god" as well as his magic account of an "expanding universe" made of "billions and billions" of Light Years and yuge stars.

Anything to hide God.

Liberator  posted on  2019-10-17   8:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Liberator (#13)

Humanists and militant Atheists like the cartoonish Tyson believe Carl Sagan is their "god" as well as his magic account of an "expanding universe" made of "billions and billions" of Light Years and huge stars.

I don't have a problem with an expanding universe, the background microwave radiation is all around us, it doesn't come from some fixed point, or at least not one we have discovered, so God created it and it is expanding, nothing contradictory here. The only issue is the mechanism by which we arrived on earth at this point in time. It is obvious we have not been here very long and we can debate forever how long that is, but I want to know, where is God when he is not talking to me, he hasn't answered that one yet

paraclete  posted on  2019-11-20   1:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: paraclete (#14)

I don't have a problem with an expanding universe,

God created it and it is expanding, nothing contradictory here.

The only issue is the mechanism by which we arrived on earth at this point in time.

You believe there is a God Who can create an entire universe...but He cannot create humans?

Does the Biblical account of God creating Adam from the dust of the ground seem unbelievable to you?

watchman  posted on  2019-11-20   7:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Liberator (#10)

The sky receded like a scroll being rolled up,

We see God and he says "Don't make me come down there". (might have been a far side cartoon)

rustynail  posted on  2019-11-20   7:52:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator (#0)

Twinkle Twinkle little...

What meaning did that symbol have to the self-worshiping caste of eunuch frauds who propped it up?

Judas Goat  posted on  2019-11-20   10:02:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: watchman (#15)

You believe there is a God Who can create an entire universe...but He cannot create humans? Does the Biblical account of God creating Adam from the dust of the ground seem unbelievable to you?

Did I say that? I don't have the issue, but those who don't believe the Bible. There are many things said in the Bible that we should examine and ask what does this mean?

God does not give us detail, just facts. We are indeed all dust but the statement could have deeper meaning. I'm not going to engage in my theory is better than your theory as Tyson does because I don't have to.

paraclete  posted on  2019-11-20   16:05:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: paraclete (#18)

Did I say that?

You said:

The only issue is the mechanism by which we arrived on earth...

Is Gen.2:7 true...And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Or is there some unknown "mechanism" we should be looking for?

watchman  posted on  2019-11-20   17:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: watchman (#19)

The only issue is the mechanism by which we arrived on earth... Is Gen.2:7 true...And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Or is there some unknown "mechanism" we should be looking for?

Yes, this is an issue for unbelievers like Tyson who want to believe that they evolved from pond scum. I can believe we arrived here fully formed because there is no fossil evidence we did not.

Do not twist my words but understand God is supreme and it was his purpose to place us here to have dominion over this part of his creation

paraclete  posted on  2019-11-20   19:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: paraclete (#20)

Do not twist my words

Twist your words? No!

I only seek clarification.

watchman  posted on  2019-11-20   19:32:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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