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Title: RAW FOOTAGE: Balloon, aka NASA "Satellite" Floats Across Full Moon
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAfdkWy0QtE&feature=youtu.be
Published: Feb 3, 2018
Author: Flat Earth Dude
Post Date: 2019-09-28 17:41:37 by Liberator
Keywords: NASA, Satellite, Balloon
Views: 25492
Comments: 184
(Video taken through a Nikon P900 camera)
Poster Comment: Cool! Great shot of the Moon as well. (Sure doesn't seem like it's 239,000 miles away.) So.... is balloon technology how NASA really photographs earth? It appears they are able to attach an equipment gondola to the Balloon...and let 'er rip into Low Earth Orbit. One also wonders if "Astronauts" are actually embedded into a special Balloon gondola instead what's depicted in those dodgy "ISS" shots. Orbital velocity is the velocity needed to achieve balance between gravity's pull on the satellite and the inertia of the satellite's motion -- the satellite's tendency to keep going. This is approximately 17,000 mph (27,359 kph) at an altitude of 150 miles (242 kilometers). Without gravity, the satellite's inertia would carry it off into space. Moving juuuust a bit slower than 17,000 MPH. Source: 'HOW STUFF WORKS' https://science.howstuffworks.com/satellite6.htm
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#2. To: Liberator (#0)
That's not how any of this works.
Actually...IT IS. With respect to, 'HOW STUFF WORKS', I mis-formatted the post, so it's my fault there's some confusion. OF NOTE: According to 'HOW STUFF WORKS' and the link I provided: "Orbital velocity is the velocity needed to achieve balance between gravity's pull on the satellite and the inertia of the satellite's motion -- the satellite's tendency to keep going. This is approximately 17,000 mph.(27,359 kph) at an altitude of 150 miles (242 kilometers). Without gravity, the satellite's inertia would carry it off into space. We see neither traveling at 17,000 mph -- whether a gi-normous NASA balloon or the pix taken from NASA "Satellites" (which are actually "gondolas" tethered TO balloons at low earth orbit.)
NASA's Giant Helium Balloons will neither be escaping much beyond the stratosphere, nor dragged to earth via "gravity"... They drift (or are guided) at a very manageable speed (as captured by this amateur videographer in front of the moon), thus it is the perfect medium from which to view and photograph the earth....or be its passenger.
IF you're interested in the truth of the matter...(IF NOT, PLEASE IGNORE) Check out the various links to related subject to the right (Top Chat Replay) MIND BLOWING EVIDENCE...and presentation from someone who may not be your cup of tea in manners, but he is certainly one who crushes the truth. And that's really all that matters. *Please don't dismiss this hour-plus video and case because of the uncalled for salty language within the first couple of minutes...as well as sprinkled here and there.* THIS IS WORTH YOUR ATTENTION. The Content Provider (who was coincidentally also in the service and familiar with some missions) soon calmed down and proceeds to make the case based on researched information, analyses, de-classified official documents, videotape and photos that satellites are perhaps NOT actually in orbit in space but instead are floating from high-altitude meteorological balloons. This included specific missions and sections of documents that testify to protocols, flight ranges and heights, and how HUGE balloons (the size of a football field)....(including "Drag Net" gondolas," payloads and capsules) have been captured by special aircraft. This balloon program has actually been in effect since the mid-1950s. Some interesting bookmarks: Documents of Q & A interviews with a Flight Commander regarding various missions and 9:45 (protocol in capturing the Gondola payloads) 13:00 (video of balloon launch from Antarctica, Satellite "payload.") 15:45: Antarctica Balloon Launch Program and specially outfitted aircraft that capture balloons designed to carry 8,000 lbs satellites (according to docs.) 23:45... Pilot interviewed about role in balloon-capturing protocol 25:30... Astronauts are sent to Antarctica for training. (AND FOR PRIVACY SAKE...which MAY be one reason accessing ALL land latitudes 60 degrees and south IS STRICTLY VERBOTEN.) 28:48...Chute/Deployment/Capture/Area Recovery protocol Could satellite signals be emitters placed around the edge of the flat earth? From here do they send the signal to the sky (to the dome) and the signals bounce from the top to the ground? So it seems to come from above. Maybe that's why you can't go visit what's in Antarctica. 32:27 ...On Satellite Tracking by relatively primitive means, explanations and dynamics; Number of Balloon ID'd in missions, frequency % codes; purpose. (Also launched from several European nations as early as during the mid-1950s.) HISTORY OF SATELLITE RECON (Dec-Classified 2012) Among those listed: that you might remember: the Soviet Module/Space Station, "MIR", from 1997-2002. It was launched VIA BALLOON from Norway... (see docs under "Payloads" at 44:55 and onward.) You will be shocked at just how many "Satellites" were launched NOT from "Space Rockets" but from BALLOONS.) 46:23 -- loose tethers hanging from payloard capsules) 48:05 -- NASA's Enviasat ...and other awkward listed Balloon payloads and NASA docs. 51:16 etc -- HOW IT WORKS, including balloon recon/capture aircraft like U-2S (mannned/unmanned.) The NASA $$$$$$$ money and charade this 60 year old "Space Mission is costing the USA is stratospheric (pun intended.)
No, it's not worth our attention. None of it is. We aren't going to be truth-bombed into becoming your fellow-Flattards. Nor are any of us likely to be drawn into the usual endless lists of videos and the constant moving of goalposts to allow you to harangue us all with your little problem in understanding basic science concepts that are not at all mysterious to the rest of us. It just isn't happening. Maybe you should seek help for your paranoid personality traits and your learning disabilities and your authority figure problems. But none of those is our fault or our problem. Nor are they anything new in your life because they do date back decades IMO.
Who is "our", Kemosabe?? You represent yourself, your own personal biases, programming, and ignorance. And projection. Just because YOU are blindly accepting of everything you've been told, mesmerized by and indoctrinated at all levels of consciousness by every authoritah and Rockefellerian public school/university gulag doesn't mean EVERYONE ELSE is. Sheeet. You still believe in the fairy-tale the criss-crossing of Chemtrails are "contrails" -- even though yor gubmint overlords ADMIT they are spraying the sky. We aren't going to be truth-bombed into becoming your fellow-Flattards. Again, you presume to be part of some kind of fraternal Magoo-ian Society of Lemmings. (And yes you just may be) BUT it doesn't preclude free-thinkers and truth-seekers from abandoning the zombie-land of WikiTardia and Cult of Fake Science. Are you also onboard with your fellow Magoo-ian Lemmings on 'The Big Bang'? '4.7 year old Universe'? 'Evolution' (from Plankton-to-Man)? I'll bet your "proof" of a "globe" is the one on your desk. OR cartoons & movies. The 'Universal' globe logo. Or...especially the "photos" of NASA from "Outer Space". (Did Buzz Aldrin autograph your fav?) .... the constant moving of goalposts to allow you to harangue us all with your little problem in understanding basic science concepts that are not at all mysterious to the rest of us." Aaah. The truth slithers out. It's PRIDE that won't allow you to pursue or consider the truth. Here's some "Science" for you -- NASA's own "Scientists" admit" "WE CAN'T LEAVE LOW EARTH ORBIT." (But they're "working on it!") Then please tell me, Einstein -- so exactly how did NASA fly 778,000 miles (round trip) TO the Moon and back 5 times from 1969-1972? BUT CAN'T LEAVE LOW EARTH ORBIT 50 YEARS LATER?? Here's more "Science" AND "Math for you: Tell me. How does NASA -- which allegedly accomplished the greatest feat in the annals of Human History -- "LOSE THE TECHNOLOGY" (or threw out) the "knowledge" that supposedly GOT them back & forth to the Moon?? Either NASA is lying about it and EVERYTHING -- OR worst -- you actually believe this "WE WENT TO THE MOON!" lie (along with every other lie.) If you choose to remain ignorant of the same "basic science" and "math" you claim supports truth and logic, perhaps you can explain THIS simple "Science 101" as well?: Given "Water seeks it's own level," the Nile River for 3,000 miles IS LEVEL. Ergo, that means it is FLAT. (that's right -- PROVEN: No Curvature. No "curvature" means "NO 'GLOBE''.") All this isn't even about "education" or lack of; It's about INDOCTRINATION. Maybe you should seek help for your paranoid personality traits and your learning disabilities and your authority figure problems. For demanding the truth be sought and embraced? For rejecting the obvious lies? That's a strange solution you propose.... Good luck with that altar of yours in the living room/"sanctuary," featuring a Giant Globe. The walls? Perhaps festooned with pictures of Einstein, Rockefeller, Buzz Aldrin, the NASA logo, Freemason logo, and 'All Seeing Eye'. I'm only guessing a wee bit here. And just because you hold a Doctorate in Mis-Direction (Minor in Deflection) from 'Oz U.' doesn't mean I don't respect your position.
Ever drove cross-country? Ever wonder who is in charge of pushing the Rockies up out of the ground so you can see them suddenly come into view,and then letting them sink back into the Earth again once you have passed that area? Where does all the ocean water go at low tide?
Fair question... I obviously don't have all the answers, but since "Science" deals far more presumptive theory more than Fact (like "Gravity"), I'll share what I've researched: Vast subterranean oceans below the earth's existing oceans and even under the land ebb and flow. What causes it is anybody's guess. This has been theorized by some scientists as a large factor in causing the tide fluctuations. (Of course we've all been taught to believe the Moon's "gravitational pull" is THE one and only cause.) To what degree you consider the possibilities of recent theories, "Settled Science" or today's "science" is up to you. Ever drove cross-country? Ever wonder who is in charge of pushing the Rockies up out of the ground so you can see them suddenly come into view,and then letting them sink back into the Earth again once you have passed that area? Sure... Yup. That's one amazing sight; Mountains emerging at the horizon, then eventually disappearing beneath it. You're referring to the optics of perspective and objects that seemingly disappearing below the horizon. It's because our ability to see is limited by factors -- like haze. But mostly because everything has a vanishing point at which objects converge into a point...finally disappearing. For instance: This is the perception of expected curvature (based on the formula of 8 inches per mile squared) that appears to "hide" the Rockies, ships, land, etc which appear as if they pass beneath the horizon. One problem: That "formula" is proven NOT to work. It's documented that people are seeing 40-hundreds of miles to objects over a horizon that should not be able to be seen. IF you were to look through high-powered binoculars or telescope at the Rockies you've just "seen" disappear below the horizon, they'd suddenly re-appear again through those magnified specs. This proves they actually did not "fall below the horizon." Here is an excellent, detailed explanation of why "curvature" is a matter of perspective, and why all the world's water and oceans are absolutely level.
Gravity is now a THEORY????? I hope someone responsible ends up taking over your finances so you don't end up homeless and hungry. BTW,that was where I quit reading. I just don't have the necessary patience to go any further. Sorry.
Gravity is ABSOLUTELY only a theory created by the Cult of Fake "Science" to explain all its other BS. I hope someone responsible ends up taking over your finances so you don't end up homeless and hungry. BTW,that was where I quit reading. Wait a minute; Aren't you the one who actually believed Elon Musk floated a CAR in "Outer Space"?? I should be worried about YOU. Reading NOT necessary:
No. "Space" "floated a car in space" because everything in space is weightless. Planets float in space. Do does the Sun. Just in case you don't know,they are all heavier than a car.
Well, heavy is kind of a relative term. They recently celebrated the first orbit of the car out to a near-Mars trajectory. Musk says they might someday send a small launch just to take some photos of it to see how badly space has treated it. Since space is really hard on things, the car will just disintegrate mostly. After a year of cosmic rays and unprotected solar radiation, all the car's paint, tires, plastics, and leather have already turned to space dust, a little cloud floating around the decaying car. The metals and carbon fiber parts will last somewhat longer. Some years from now, it will be aluminum frame and what little bits of glass haven't been broken by micro-meteorites that keep bashing it. It's still the only vehicle certified as a road vehicle to be launched into space. Funny, Musk shopped it around and offered free launch space to the Air Force and NASA and they all turned him down. They wouldn't put their stuff on his rocket. He flies it once (with all 27 rocket engines firing and then spectacularly lands both boosters in tandem back in Florida and the core booster on his barge at sea) and now they line up to pay him to launch stuff on his Falcon Heavy.
That car,with the fake-suited astronaut behind the wheel,HAS to be THE coolest thing ever launched into space. Doing that was a pure stroke of genius. Not quite up to landing the rockets at the sage sites they took off from from a practical point of view,but cool none the less. Nobody can doubt the genius of Musk as a salesman.
He IS just the face, a "salesman" for the Tesla, Space X, the entire "We be going to Mars soon!!" teenage wet-dream -- on that we agree. (Though there's no way any of what is presented as his "ideas" and "invention" are his; nor the financing of such expensive projects.)
The Falcon Heavy which sent his car into a near-Mars orbit was entirely capable of going to Mars. The car was not sent to Mars because that would have required a full upper-stage with all the propulsion and thrusters and communications and computers. Musk was only after the initial certification so he could then pursue the nine different types of Pentagon launch contracts. Which is what he is doing. His big rocket, Starship, a rocket capable of launching 30-40 Tesla cars to Mars could make its first run to Mars as soon as 2022. And then return and land on Earth under its own power. When Musk starts flying Starship, the Flat people are going to find it very hard to deny the reality of outer space. There will simply be too much evidence, too many ways for amateur astronomers to see and track these stainless steel spaceships. Musk did get a lot of early venture capital from his buddy Sergei Brin at Google. Musk was producing real products in demand unlike Google with its creepy Google Glass and other spying tech so Musk was a good investment, even as just a write-off to avoid paying taxes. But Musk's success with SpaceX is so considerable that he really doesn't need Google's money any more. Musk's estimated worth is now $19 billion. But he bet everything he had on SpaceX and the first Falcon launch. He would have been almost dead broke if it had failed because Musk spent all the money he made from Paypal on SpaceX. Musk is getting ready to launch his low-earth internet constellation to blanket the earth in internet access. It's called Starlink and will consist of ~7,500 satellites in low-earth orbit. And they will all be launched on SpaceX Falcon 9 rockets. He launched the first 60, as a test, in May 2019 and it was a perfect deployment, as tracked by radar from Earth. I watched it in real time, as I and many other space nerds watch everything SpaceX launches and deploys. Musk is undoubtedly the greatest industrialist of the 21st century. He is likely to become the greatest entrepreneur of the 21st century except Bezos (currently #1) saw where Musk was going and the vast fortunes to be made in space so Bezos started Blue Origin to build big rockets, just to frustrate Musk and try to deny him that top dog status. Musk vs. Bezos? I say Musk unless Bezos really found his own von Braun. And no one thinks he did 'cause all the real talent wants to work for Musk.
Yes, the Hayden Planetarium has a staff one one and he runs the projector. Yes. Dr. Neil Degrasse Tyson "has a degree" as you put it. Actually, the Dr. appellation infers he has more than one degree. The schools were Harvard and Columbia. He has a bachelor's in physics from Harvard, and a Doctorate in astrophysics from Columbia. He does not run the projector. Dr. Tyson is "director of the Hayden Planetarium and worked on an extensive renovation of the facility, assisting with its design and helping raise the necessary funds. The $210 million project was completed in 2000, and the revamped site offered visitors a cutting-edge look at astronomy." If you feel a flat earth idiot is more knowledgeable about flat earth than a guy with a doctorate in astrophysics, well bless your heart. Carry on and don't let me disturb your intellectual search for truth on Youtube, or flat earth threads on LF. Good luck with the effort of you and Liberator to weigh the car of Elon Musk in space.
Elon Musk does more to educate people against Flat Earth ideas than almost anyone. You can't argue with all those launches and the new satellites in orbit. It is a reason why Musk seems to be hated by the Flat Earther types. Musk's goals are to make space launches an order of magnitude less expensive. Musk wants lots more space launches and space travel. So the best way for Musk to achieve that is to drive the costs down considerably with reusable rockets. There are millions of Americans who see these launches and see the first-stage launchers return and land some minutes later. Musk has launched on the West Coast too.
I guess DISH and DIRECTV hang their satellites from the dome of the firmament.
Naw,they use crop dusters flying around in circles.
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#5. To: Tooconservative (#2)
That's not how any of this works.
#6. To: TooConservative (#5)
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#8. To: All, TooConservative, Hank Rearden, Deckard, Watchman (#6)
#11. To: Liberator (#8)
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*Please don't dismiss this hour-plus video and case because of the uncalled for salty language within the first couple of minutes...as well as sprinkled here and there.* THIS IS WORTH YOUR ATTENTION.
#12. To: Tooconservative (#11)
(Edited)
No, it's not worth our attention.
#15. To: Liberator (#12)
#24. To: sneakypete (#15)
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Where does all the ocean water go at low tide?
#72. To: Liberator (#24)
I obviously don't have all the answers, but since "Science" deals far more presumptive theory more than Fact (like "Gravity"), I'll share what I've researched:
#79. To: sneakypete (#72)
Gravity is now a THEORY?????
#85. To: Liberator (#79)
Aren't you the one who actually believed Elon Musk floated a CAR in "Outer Space"??
#86. To: sneakypete (#85)
Planets float in space. Do does the Sun. Just in case you don't know,they are all heavier than a car.
#100. To: Tooconservative (#86)
They recently celebrated the first orbit of the car out to a near-Mars trajectory.
#105. To: sneakypete (#100)
Nobody can doubt the genius of Musk as a salesman.
#108. To: Liberator (#105)
He IS just the face, a "salesman" for the Tesla, Space X, the entire "We be going to Mars soon!!" teenage wet-dream -- on that we agree.
(Though there's no way any of what is presented as his "ideas" and "invention" are his; nor the financing of such expensive projects.)
#110. To: Tooconservative (#108)
But his day job is running a planetarium projector
He has the degree
#112. To: nolu chan (#110)
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Good luck with the effort of you and Liberator to weigh the car of Elon Musk in space.
#116. To: Tooconservative (#112)
Elon Musk does more to educate people against Flat Earth ideas than almost anyone.
#118. To: nolu chan (#116)
I guess DISH and DIRECTV hang their satellites from the dome of the firmament.
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