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BusiesT casino gambling day -- in Las Vegas Status: Not Logged In; Sign In The Establishments war on Donald Trump See other The Establishments war on Donald Trump Articles Title: Urgent Concern Form Revised August 2019, Requirement for First-Hand Knowledge Eliminated Source: [None] URL Source: [None] Published: Sep 27, 2019 Author: nolu chan Post Date: 2019-09-27 19:46:58 by nolu chan Keywords: None Views: 3450 Comments: 26 Urgent Concern Form Revised August 2019, Requirement for First-Hand Knowledge Eliminated nolu chan 27 September 2019 ICIC CPD - ICWPA Disclosure Form DISCLOSURE OF URGENT CONCERN FORM https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Documents/Hotline/Urgent%20Concern%20Disclosure%20Form.pdf Metadata: xmp:ModifyDate: 2019-09-25T14:39:15-04:00 xmp:CreateDate: 2019-09-24T16:25-04:00 xmp:MetadataDate: 2019-09-25T14:39:15-04:00 xmp:CreatorTool: Acrobat PDFMaker 18 for Word It appears that, few days ago, the form was changed to delete the requirement to have direct and personal knowledge of reported matter. The ICIG will now accept a report even if one "heard about it from others." See Twitter thread of Stephen McIntyre: https://twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1177580473566093312 The form of 24 May 2018 stated: ICIG-ICWSP Urgent Concern Disclosure Form Page iii FIRST-HAND INFORMATION REQUIRED In order to find an urgent concern “credible," the ICIG must be in possession of reliable, first-hand information. The IC IG cannot transmit information via the ICWPA based on an employee's second-hand knowledge of wrongdoing. This includes information received from another person, such as when a fellow employee informs you that he/she witnessed some type of wrongdoing. (Anyone with first-hand knowledge of the allegations may file a disclosure in writing directly with IC IG.) Similarly, speculation about the existence of wrongdoing does not provide sufficient legal basis to meet the statutory requirements of the ICWPA. If you think that wrongdoing took place, but can provide nothing more than second-hand or unsubstantiated assertions, IC IG will not be able to process the complaint or information for submission as an ICWPA. The form "Rev: August 2019", with a precise date unprovided, now states on page 2: 3. I know about the information I am disclosing here and: [ ] I have direct and personal knowledge [ ] I heard about it from others. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 5. #3. To: nolu chan (#0) You might be interested in this. RedState: BREAKING: Intel Community Secretly Changed the Whistle-Blower Rules to Allow the Trump-Ukraine Complaint Just Days Before It Was Filed It's just one of RedState's bloggers so it may not mean much. I see that some people are starting to raise the idea that there never was such a disclosure form prior to this complaint. Anyway, I saw it and thought of your thread here. Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-28   12:16:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: Tooconservative (#3) RedState: BREAKING: Intel Community Secretly Changed the Whistle-Blower Rules to Allow the Trump-Ukraine Complaint Just Days Before It Was Filed I had not seen this specific article, but have seen some similar coverage. I cannot determine, without a specific rev date, if this was to allow the whistleleaker complaint, or a post-complaint CYA effort. If the Rev date was after the 12 August submission, it would not change the requirement on 12 August. The metadata creation date of the online form is 24 September 2019. The purported Rev date is just August 2019. The published Complaint of August 12, 2019 is on plain paper. I have not seen any associated urgent concern disclosure form. nolu chan  posted on  2019-09-28   16:26:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: nolu chan (#4) It is interesting. You would think that they would be very careful if they actually tried to backdate the form revision. But then, no one thought that Dan Rather and his accomplice would simply forge GW Bush's military records from the typewriter era using modern proportional fonts in Microsoft Word and get caught red-handed doing it, ending Rather's career (except for his sad-ass little news show on that old HD channel). Most people aren't aware he's still alive, even at CBS. I'm not sure how these things work with the feds. I assume they have some office that approves and issues forms. Also that they would have a committee that would oversee changes to forms and that at least one person in upper management would have to sign off on any changes. I don't think the feds just let anyone change their forms at the drop of a hat. There should be a committee and someone in management signing off on it. I always thought Coates was a very weak choice for DNI, don't see why they chose him. The current Acting DNI is Joseph Maguire who took office as Acting Director on August 19, 2019. So if the Deep State was going to sneak something into the pipeline to leak about, it would make sense to do it when Trump's top political appointee was cleaning out his desk. Funny it only took a month of Coates being gone and all of a sudden a major impeachment scandal surfaces via some new complaint form that for the first time allows hearsay accusations, something explicitly forbidden for decades. Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-28   20:32:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 5. #6. To: Tooconservative (#5) I'm not sure how these things work with the feds. I have some familiarity how form management works with federal government agencies. GSA controls for all government agencies, except when it is No Such Agency or Alphabet City. The August 12 submission, as published, is not on any form. nolu chan  posted on  2019-09-29 13:16:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 5. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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