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International News Title: Whistleblower 'didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications' between Trump and Ukraine The whistleblower who filed a complaint with the intelligence community inspector general did not have direct knowledge of the communications between President Trump and the foreign leader in question. The conversation was reportedly a July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. It is alleged that Trump urged Zelensky multiple times to work with his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani to investigate Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden and his ties to an energy company owned by a Ukrainian oligarch. Giuliani has previously urged a top official in Ukraine to look into the ties. An official who has been briefed on the matter, however, told CNN that the whistleblower “didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications.” The official said that the concerns and subsequent complaint came in part from the whistleblower “learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work.” [ Also read: ANALYSIS: Does Schiff already know the Trump whistleblower's story?] Those details have reportedly played a role in the administration's determining that the complaint, lodged in August, didn’t fall under the reporting standards for intelligence whistleblower law. Although many details are still unclear, the communications in question reportedly involved a “promise,” and House Democrats, as well as the elder Biden, are pushing to have the complaint and a transcript of the call between Trump and Zelensky released. Inspector General of the Intelligence Community Michael Atkinson received the initial complaint and forwarded it to acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire, who has so far refused to pass it along to Congress. The root of the proposed investigation into Hunter Biden stems from his being a 2014 board member for the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings. While he was still vice president, Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees if Ukraine did not fire its top prosecutor, who was accused of corruption and was investigating the oligarch who owned Burisma Holdings. That raised concerns of a potential conflict of interest, which could be damaging to Biden’s presidential campaign. At the time of the prosecutor’s departure, Hunter Biden was being paid $50,000 per month for his work with the energy company. Hunter Biden left Burisma’s board earlier this year. Both Trump and Biden have denied any wrongdoing, with Trump describing his phone call to Zelensky as “perfectly fine" and Biden saying he has never spoken to his son about his overseas business dealings. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
#2. To: A K A Stone (#1) Maureen Dowd has her panties in a wad. Poor thing thought they caught Capo Trump this time! What a difference a day makes.
#3. To: WWG1WWA (#0) Biden and his son are guilty as hell, but no one on the idiot Nadler's team will want to investigate that. They're too busy impeaching the president. They should investigate how Maxine Waters had money to buy a $6 million house in someone else's congressional district. Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs. #4. To: WWG1WWA (#2) Maureen Dowd has her panties in a wad. Poor thing thought they caught Capo Trump this time! That broad is still at it?? The MSM will never stop whiffing at fake allegations. Their Goal: Every Mention = Truth to their insane army of deranged Leftists, who swallow EVERYTHING said by the MSM.
#5. To: IbJensen (#3) They're too busy impeaching the president. They can't do that because they have very little support, about 90% of Democrats realize Nadler and his crew is full of schitt only the last 10% (very wacked out retards that watch CNN/MSNBC and other total bullschitt networks) think he has a shot of getting it done... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! #6. To: WWG1WWA (#0)
The root of the proposed investigation into Hunter Biden stems from his being a 2014 board member for the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings. While he was still vice president, Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees if Ukraine did not fire its top prosecutor, who was accused of corruption and was investigating the oligarch who owned Burisma Holdings. That raised concerns of a potential conflict of interest, which could be damaging to Biden’s presidential campaign. They just can't keep their lies straight. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/08/will-hunter-biden-jeopardize-his-fathers-campaign
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#7. To: nolu chan (#6) They never thought she would lose and they got sloppy.
#8. To: WWG1WWA (#0) It's all well and good to discover more 'Rat corruption, but we all know that Gropey Dopey Joe and his shithead junkie son will get away with it and fade away very wealthy.
#9. To: Hank Rearden (#8) It's all well and good to discover more 'Rat corruption, but we all know that Gropey Dopey Joe and his shithead junkie son will get away with it and fade away very wealthy. All those years in the Senate and Biden was almost always the poorest guy there, apparently refusing the hot stock tips and the advantages of knowing what and who were going to get big government contracts. But since being VP, Biden has totally cashed in. So he lived for decades as the humble public servant only to destroy that reputation at the end of his career. And he also whored himself out, threatening Ukraine's aid for the sake of enriching his son or keeping him from being prosecuted as an accomplice of corruption in Ukraine. Doesn't matter that much anyway. Warren has taken a lead in an Iowa poll and everything is going south for Biden now. The bleeding eye, the extensive groping of women and young girls, the daft remarks in public, the appearance of being a senile person of diminished capacity, they all argue to the Dems that Biden is not the guy for 2020, no matter how much the black segment of the Dem voting bloc thinks that he's a good pick to defeat Trump. In short, Warren is the one. As I keep saying. : )
#10. To: WWG1WWA (#0)
The whistleblower who filed a complaint with the intelligence community inspector general did not have direct knowledge of the communications between President Trump and the foreign leader in question. This issue has heated up. It is questionable if the instant individual qualifies as a "whistleblower," or if said individual reported an "urgent concern" as said term is defined in the ICWPA. The U.S. President is not part of the intelligence community, and a conversation between the U.S. President and a foreign head of state would not appear to be a U.S. "intelligence activity." The ICWPA requirement to submit a complaint to Congress applies only to the intelligence committees of the House and Senate. If the complaint is not about an intellligence activity, it does not fall under the purview of the ICWPA. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-112/pdf/STATUTE-112-Pg2396.pdf#page=9 Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998 (PL 105-272, 112 Stat 2413, 2415)
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