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Title: Those who believe offical government narratives are the real "kooks".
Source: Me
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Published: Sep 20, 2019
Author: Deckard
Post Date: 2019-09-20 09:25:13 by Deckard
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Views: 218
Comments: 12

As all of you here know, this site is divided between those who accept the government controlled Mockingbird media versions of events and those who have done their own intense research and come to the conclusion that the government and media routinely lie about them.

False Flags

Computer Hope

Given the past history of governments using false flags to prod America into war and shift the blame for their actions to other parties, it's naive to think that the government does not manipulate events and use the controlled media to deceive their citizens.

Yet some of those posting here are reticent to admit that false flags have long been used by governments - it's a historical fact.

These often go hand-in-hand with another government manipulation tactic: Problem - Reaction - Solution.

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Here's how it works:

First of all you create the problem, but you get someone else to be blamed for it. You then report that problem through the media in the way you want it reported - because the media is owned by the same people who own the banks, etc. You get the public to react to your problem by saying, "Something must be done; this can't go on; what are THEY going to do about it?".

And at that point, THEY, who have covertly created the problem and blamed someone else, who gleaned that reaction of "Do Something", then offer the solution to the problems they have created.

So if you take the world wars for example - after the first world war, which the financial centers of London and Wall Street, etc, funded all sides, power on this planet was in fewer hands than ever before (via the League of Nations). After the second world war, it was even fewer hands on the wheels of power.

Other example include the Pearl Harbor attack, the burning of the Reichstag building in Germany, the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and so on.

9/11 was the ultimate problem - reaction -solution. The neocons wanted a war in the middle eats according to their own documents and concocted a New Pearl Harbor" to make it happen.

An added benefit to the tyrants in DC was the immediate passage of the PATRIOT ACT which created the American Police atate.

Problem - reaction - solution is a tactic that manipulates the public into going along with what the government had planned to do all along.

Of course, some here will laugh at this, not doing any research on the topic and relying on the media to tell them the truth.

But these are the same people who constantly criticize the MSM for lying - yet when it come to the topic of 9/11, the Kennedy assassinations and other paradigm-shifting events, these same "truth-seekers" who call the MSM liars will happily accept their government-issued pronouncements and will laugh at those who research the topic on alternative media and come to their own conclusions instead of having it spoon-fed to them by the government and it's Mockingbird propaganda arm (the MSM).

A tactic these posters use often when these subjects are broached is to call us "conspiracy theorists".

The point they always seem to ignore is that the official 9/11 narrative itself is a conspiracy THEORY - 19 arab hijackers who "hated us for our freedom." No, they won't admit how absurd that "theory" is, but they will deride and condemn anyone who, after doing countless hours of actual research, offers a more plausible and believable chain of events.

They ignore posted evidence and crucial facts and often even refuse to read any links that would show where they are wrong.

It's as if they are saying "Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is already made up", the words of someone who is not really interested in truth.

So, who are the real "kooks"

Those of us who have invested hours our time studying topics like 9/11 and the Kennedy Assasination should not be threatened or deterred by those who call us "kooks"

in fact, my postulation is that those who believe the official narrative of events as reported by the MSM are the real "kooks". They are cultists worshiping at the altar of government and their Bibles are the MSM, the 9/11 Commission Report and the Warren Report.

So my advice is to ignore their ad hominems, understand that most of them will never see the truth and will refuse to take the red pill, instead they are content to be seduced by the blue pill and continue living a life of luxurious security, tranquil happiness, and the blissful ignorance of the harsh realities of life, basking in an (essentially dishonest) illusion. (2 images)

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#1. To: jeremiad, Liberator, A K A Stone (#0)

The point they always seem to ignore is that the official 9/11 narrative itself is a conspiracy THEORY - 19 arab hijackers who "hated us for our freedom." No, they won't admit how absurd that "theory" is, but they will deride and condemn anyone who, after doing countless hours of actual research, offers a more plausible and believable chain of events.

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Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-09-20   9:26:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0)

 

Suspicious Minds: Why We Believe Conspiracy Theories. By Rob Brotherton. Bloomsbury Sigma, New York, 2015. ISBN 978-1472915610. 304 pp. Softcover, $27.


There has been an explosion of academic interest into conspiracy theories in recent years, marked by a flurry of journal articles (see “The Psychology of Conspiracy Theories” series in Frontiers in Psychology, for instance), doctoral theses, and books. Research into conspiracy theories nonetheless remains relatively niche, meaning that only a handful of scholars are well- positioned to produce a comprehensive book on the topic, drawing from empirical research. Rob Brotherton is one of them. Unlike most books on conspiracy theories, Brotherton’s Suspicious Minds does not go into much detail on conspiracies themselves but instead the thinking behind them—why people believe in them. Critically, he explains clearly up front that we are all conspiracy theorists. With this in mind, the book ought to be of interest to everyone.

Adopting a psychological approach, Brotherton explains, “Conspiracism is a lens through which the world can be viewed, and it has the potential to distort everything in its field of view.” Accordingly, he explains that the real culprit behind conspiracy theories is the human brain. We all have one, and this is why we all tend to believe in conspiracies. He clarifies that the prototype of a conspiracy is an unanswered question considered by a person who assumes nothing is as it seems. Those behind conspiracies are seen to be exceptionally competent, and normally not evil. Conspiratorial thinking is founded on anomaly hunting and is essentially irrefutable: “Attempting to refute a conspiracy theory is like nailing jelly to a wall. Since conspiracy theories are inherently unproven, the theory is always a work in progress, able to dodge refutation by inventing new twists and turns.” Notably, belief in one conspiracy theory is found to be a strong predictor of belief in other conspiracy theories—even when they are contradictory. The appeal of conspiracy theories is rejecting “the official story.”

Though drawing mostly from academic research, case studies of real conspiracy theories are present, none more prominently addressed than the MMR vaccine controversy, resulting in the retraction of a study published in The Lancet in 1998 that made the claim that the vaccination causes autism. Less well known, perhaps, is the issue of AIDS denialism. In 1992, businesswoman Christine Maggiore tested positive for HIV. With no medical training or degree, Maggiore pondered the scientific literature on AIDS and concluded it was not caused by HIV. Founding a group called “Alive and Well AIDS Alternatives,” she, with the help of the rock band Foo Fighters, staged a benefit concert. She died of AIDS, having rejected AIDS medicine; her HIV was transmitted to her children, with one of her daughters dying of AIDS before she reached four years of age.

Rich accounts scattered throughout the book underscore the practical implications of beliefs “gone wrong” and the need for improved scientific communication between researchers and laypersons. Discussing the role of expertise in some detail, and with reference to some fun research, Brotherton notes that the world has become more complex and specialized—we increasingly rely on experts to help us make sense of it. The book is very accessible yet goes into a lot of detail on the research methodology used in empirical studies. My favorite method comes from J.E. Uscinski and J.M. Parent’s 2014 book American Conspiracy Theories (Oxford University Press), which analyzed thousands of letters to the editor in the New York Times and Chicago Tribune between 1890 and 2010. It is clear that interest in conspiracies far predates the Internet.

In a lengthy discussion of our love for stories, Brotherton argues that conspiracy theories, ultimately, are stories not unlike those we have been telling each other throughout the ages. “Conspiracy theories are an exercise in connecting dots,” he explains. “Reality is overflowing with dots. To make sense of it, our brain has to be good at quickly figuring out how they are connected. In its relentless quest to turn the chaos around us into meaning, however, our brain can conjure up seductive illusions.” This is known from a wealth of related research, as summarized in Daniel Kahneman’s 2011 book Thinking, Fast and Slow.

Going into detail on recent empirical works, Brotherton convincingly shows that people who are prone to believing that climate change is a myth, that Princess Diana was “taken out” by the British Monarchy, or that Hurricane Katrina was “created” by the Bush administration using secret military weather manipulation technology have other things in common too. Fans of social cognition will be excited to read about intentionality bias, false consensus effect, proportionality bias, and other shortcuts that predict belief in conspiracy theories. To hone in on research into the belief that President Barack Obama is not in fact a U.S. citizen, research findings highlight that this perception increased after he released his birth certificate. Concluding that the so-called backfire effect is the ultimate demonstration of confirmation bias, Brotherton acknowledges, “Being smarter or having access to more information doesn’t necessarily make us less susceptible to faulty beliefs. Sometimes it just makes us better able to explain away unpalatable facts.” Once again reminding us that we are in fact all conspiracy theorists, the book serves as a useful reminder that we could all think more critically.

As we increasingly turn to the Inter­net to help us make decisions on all sorts of things, and as search results be­come iteratively refined based on our preferences, we must strive to better criticize the sources of information we encounter and adopt the point of view of others. This book, with its emphasis on a fun topic likely to be of interest to various parties, ought to help move things forward, if only a little. That is, of course, assuming that the book itself is not thought of as a tool of a conspiracy.

Salute,
Gatlin

Gatlin  posted on  2019-09-20   9:51:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard, Liberator (#1)

but they will deride and condemn anyone who, after doing countless hours of actual research, offers a more plausible and believable chain of events.

If only. What they offer are unanswered questions, unsupported claims, and conspiracy theories with nothing to support them.

I asked Liberator multiple times to present "a more plausible and believable chain of events" to describe what happened to the Pentagon on 9/11. The only response I got was that he knew it wasn't a 757.

misterwhite  posted on  2019-09-20   9:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin (#2)

There has been an explosion of academic interest into conspiracy theories in recent years, marked by a flurry of journal articles

The official government narrative about 9/11 (which you believe) is in itself a "conspiracy theory".

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-09-20   10:03:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard (#4)

The official government narrative about 9/11 (which you believe) is in itself a "conspiracy theory".

Everything to you is a conspiracy theory.

Salute,
Gatlin

Gatlin  posted on  2019-09-20   11:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#5)

The official government narrative about 9/11 (which you believe) is in itself a "conspiracy theory".

You can't even admit that? Can you?

A conspiracy is a secret plan or agreement between persons (called conspirers or conspirators) for an unlawful or harmful purpose, such as murder or treason, especially with political motivation, while keeping their agreement secret from the public or from other people affected by it. In a political sense, conspiracy refers to a group of people united in the goal of usurping, altering or overthrowing an established political power.

You believe a "conspiracy theory".

Kook!

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-09-20   11:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#6)

The official government narrative about 9/11 (which you believe) is in itself a "conspiracy theory".

You can't even admit that? Can you?

I admit that I have no reason to disbelieve the 9/11 Commission Report.

"You can’t evev do anything about that – can you?"

CT FREAK.

Salute,
Gatlin

Gatlin  posted on  2019-09-21   3:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deckard, Gatlin, TooConservative (#6)

(The official government narrative about 9/11 [which you believe] is in itself a "conspiracy theory".

You can't even admit that? Can you?

No he can't. And therein lies the irony and hypocrisy of the Gilliganian army of obedient programmed slaves who BLINDLY embrace and support every false "Official Report" and "fact" that's submitted by the every so-called "authoritah" and institution.

Gatlin fished a CT article out of the abyss (can't he come up with his *own* conspiracy theory??), that basically theorizes, "THIS IS WHY PEOPLE BELIEVE IN CONSPIRACY THEORIES -- BLAME THEIR WARPED, DEFECTIVE BRAINS FOR NOT BUYING LIES AS TOLD BY DIS-CREDITED, PROFESSIONAL LIARS."

Ooops. Sounds like a "CT" to me as well.

L-A-M-E gaslighting piece, Gatlin.

Liberator  posted on  2019-09-21   6:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#7)

I admit that I have no reason to disbelieve the 9/11 Commission Report.

Surprise, Surprise!!

If your gubmint buds told you ET was expected over at your house for dinner at 5:00, you'd be at Walmart at 9:00AM buying a crate of Reese's Pieces and a new phone.

Liberator  posted on  2019-09-21   7:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Deckard (#0)

...Another government manipulation tactic: Problem - Reaction - Solution.

PROBLEM (aka Big Institution-Created Lie): "Global Warming!!!"

REACTION:

1) "We're all gonna drown in ten years from melting ice caps!!"
2) "HURRY!! Gotta save da planet!!"
3) "Let's let a cute 13 year old Scandinavian girl lecture Congress and da Wirld on "Global Warming"

SOLUTION:

1) (Gubmint) Restriction of Energy
2) (Gubmint) Restriction of Meat/Food
3) (Gubmint) Restriction of Movement

4) *unsaid* (Gubmint facilitated) WARS/POPULATION REDUCTION

Liberator  posted on  2019-09-21   7:11:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Liberator (#10)

1) "We're all gonna drown in ten years from melting ice caps!!"

10 more years of these moron Millennials, and the GenX/GenY/GenZ whinebots and I'll probably welcome being drowned as long as I can take those a-holes with me. LOL

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-21   16:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tooconservative (#11)

Heh...

The bad news: You'll be on their menu way before then. Yup: 'Generation: CANNIBAL' is the next gen. (subset)

Liberator  posted on  2019-09-22   10:23:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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