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International News Title: The Very Book The Government Does Not Want You To Read Just Went #1 In The World In Brief
George Orwell’s 1984 is a classic book depicting a populace ruled by a political regime that persecutes individualism and independent critical thinking as “thoughtcrimes” that must be enforced by the “thought police.” This party seeks power above all, and, through the propagandist Ministry of Truth, presents the people with their version of truth and casts away all other information and opinion. Sound familiar?
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The TakeawayAt the end of the day, the US government suing the publisher of Snowden’s book is only bringing more attention to the truth of mass censorship and that this global elite is losing power. The more the global elite respond the way they are, with this like the mass censorship of information, alternative independent media outlets being shut down, and jailing people like Julian Assange, the more they hurt their own interests… which is inspiring for humanity as we awaken. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-13) not displayed.
We are being spied on better and faster today Fixed it. You seem to love warrantless spying on ALL American citizens. Obviously you are one of those sheep who constantly bleat "If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear". Those are the words of tyrants and their submissive sycophants. ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #15. To: A K A Stone (#4) Uh Freedom of Speech and the press little bitches. Freedom of Speech is NOT a universal right. When you have a security clearance you sign documents promising you will never reveal any information you gain due to the access your clearance gives you,and agree to the punishments outlined on the papers you sign. This applies to Snowden. If you don't want to go to prison,either don't sign the papers and take the job,or stay silent. Snowden signed the papers and then went public,so now he is a whiny little bitch complaining about how "unfair" it is,just like he is some sort of spoiled 9 year old mama's boy. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. #16. To: Deckard (#8) Edward Snowden is a hero. He is a whiney little bitch, ANYBODY with 2 IQ points to rub together knows the government "spies" on citizens. You don't think the Feebs didn't spy on recent German immigrants during WW-2? Hell,they put Japanese people who were born as US citizens in internment camps for the duration of the war. The ygly truth is the end result was they were protected from attack by idiot Americans for "looking like the enemy" during the war. People from Germany weren't put into containment camps because nobody could look at them and tell they were German. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. #17. To: Liberator (#11) They still don't want the book read and info shared, do they? So they are cleverly keeping it out of circulation by allowing Amazon to sell it via mail order? In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. #18. To: Deckard (#14) (Edited) Fixed it. Uh … How? It’s saying the same thing with the same end results. But if you like your version better – then I am perfectly okay with it. What some hoped for with Snowden’s revelations was that the U.S. intelligence community would be destroyed. It was not. Exactly the opposite has happened - It has strengthened since Edward Snowden became your American hero. Despite undoubted intelligence losses, new collection barriers, and diplomatic embarrassments, the community has now emerged as a stronger organization discounting – yes indeed and We are being spied on better and faster Salute,
#19. To: sneakypete (#16) ANYBODY with 2 IQ points to rub together knows the government "spies" on citizens. No one really knew the extent until Snowden revealed it. ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #20. To: sneakypete (#15) What law would that be he broke. Since congress shall make NO LAW....... There is no law.
#21. To: A K A Stone, Gatlin, sneakypete, Deckard (#20) You are mistaking the government action as a criminal action when it is a civil action. The article is misrepresents the government action as one to prevent publication.
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#22. To: Deckard, sneakypete (#19) Stop with the bullshit that “No one really knew the extent until Snowden revealed it.” Since 2001 it has been common knowledge that the government has engaged in massive, illegal dragnet surveillance of millions of ordinary citizens. There were full blown press reports in late 2005. The Electronic Frontier Foundation has been at the forefront in an attempt to stops it. you can even read the timelines here. News reports in December 2005 first revealed that the National Security Agency (NSA) has been intercepting Americans’ phone calls and Internet communications. Those news reports, combined with a USA Today story in May 2006 and the statements of several members of Congress, revealed that the NSA is also receiving wholesale copies of American's telephone and other communications records. All of these surveillance activities are in violation of the privacy safeguards established by Congress and the US Constitution. https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying Salute,
#23. To: Gatlin (#22) Stop with the bullshit that “No one really knew the extent until Snowden revealed it.” It is a fact that no on knew the extent. The contract can't make him keep things that are illegal secret. Since it requires a search warrant to search someone and they aren't they are in violation. Real Americans understand that.
#24. To: Gatlin (#13) We are being spied on better and faster today because of your American hero, Snowden. Snowden exposed corruption. You try your best to cover it up and put blinders on. Your premise is a false.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#23) source It is a fact that no on[e] knew the extent. [Definition of Extent: The degree to which something happens]. NOTE – The date of Snowden’s information release was on June 5, 2013. The massive, illegal dragnet surveillance of the domestic communications and communications records of millions of ordinary Americans since at least 2001 was first reported by the press and discovered by the public in late 2005. source NOTE – The date of the MASSIVE surveillance was first discovered by the public in late 2005. [Definition of Massive: very large in size]. News reports in December 2005 first revealed that the National Security Agency (NSA) has been intercepting Americans’ phone calls and Internet communications. Those news reports, combined with a USA Today story in May 2006 and the statements of several members of Congress, revealed that the NSA is also receiving wholesale copies of American's telephone and other communications records. [Definition of Wholesale: Done on a large scale; extensive]. source Secret government documents, [furnished by Snowden then] published by Guardian and Washington Post in 2013, confirmed – CONFIRMED – that NSA obtains full copies of everything that is carried along major domestic fiber optic cable networks. While I await that, I will continue by stating tjat I simply cannot find information to agree with your statement that “it is a fact that no on[e] knew the extent.” I find in different articles that everyone knew from press reports about the massive, wholesale, illegal dragnet surveillance since late 2005 and all that Snowden did was to confirm that on June 5, 2013. I would say that YOUR real Americans knew of the massive, wholesale, illegal dragnet surveillance – the simply did not know the amount [extent] of the sophisticated being used. Snowden did not reveal the “extent of WHAT” – since that was already known – he revealed the “extent of HOW.” And I am fully prepared to discuss with you the biggest actual revelations from Snowden’s leaks. Salute,
#26. To: A K A Stone (#23) source Real Americans understand that. Snowden signed non-disclosure agreements [contracts] with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and National Security Agency (NSA) agreeing to keep ALL things there and from there SECRET – and yes, it definitely does include anything illegal. You are right In that they can’t MAKE him keep the things that are illegal secret – but they sure as hell can take him to court for violating the non- disclosure agreements [contracts] and seek a judgment against him. Which they are now doing … For on Tuesday, the US Department of Justice filed a lawsuit against Edward Snowden for publishing a book, Permanent Record, in violation of non-disclosure agreements he had with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and National Security Agency (NSA). Salute,
#27. To: Gatlin, A K A Stone (#26) Well, there – Good Buddy – will you please help out this poor ole country boy who you may not consider one of YOUR real Americans. If you were a real American, you would know better than to even say something like this.
I sincerely apologize to you – but I do not have any idea what you are saying here and what it is in reference to. Another nonsense online apology. You state that your "apology" is "sincere" but you immediately gaslight Stone by insisting you have no idea what you are apologizing for. This is a way to deny Stone any agency in his own judgment of the matter and to try to pretend that he can have no rational basis for his opinion (even while you are "sincerely apologizing"). Why would you apologize to anyone unless you are admitting your own error in the matter? First off, a sincere apology is one that is heartfelt, in which the wrongdoer has understood and confessed that they trampled on someone else's opinions and feelings and that they are resolved never to do that same thing again. Otherwise, apologies are simply empty meaningless words that are only used by psychopaths to manipulate others to do their will or accept their opinions or to persuade someone that their opinion is not a simple matter of right or wrong based on facts but is just one of many possible opinions on a matter that reasonable people might differ on. So spare us all these self-serving, calculating and manipulative "sincere apologies".
#28. To: Gatlin (#26) They are using a law for prohibit free speech. Since congress shall make no law..... It is unlawful. If that is to complicated for you then I cannot help you. You can believe some lawyer talk to obscure the truth of what the constitution actually says if you like playing games.
#29. To: Tooconservative (#27) I didn't state it very well last night. I knew that at the time.
#30. To: A K A Stone (#29) (Edited) No, you were clear enough. Gatlin was merely "apologizing" strategically as a way to continue to try to advance his own argument that you are profoundly wrong (but you have every right to be wrong in a way so mysterious that Gatlin cannot possibly even comprehend that you might hold a reasonable fact-based opinion). Gatlin is gaslighting you with his manipulative so-called "apology". If he isn't wrong about the matter, why should he apologize at all? Why should you accept this condescending "apology" if Gatlin continues to say he doesn't understand why he is "apologizing"? This business of "I don't know what I'm sorry for but I sincerely apologize for everything" is never a sincere apology in any way. It is a way to placate an impulsive child or a vindictive hysterical woman or a senile person. Gatlin is humoring you, probing for weakness. That's all his "apology" means. It's the sort of thing a con man makes their living from.
#31. To: A K A Stone (#28) (Edited) Since congress shall make no law..... You can believe some lawyer talk … Let me see – how shall I properly express my take on this to you … I will start by saying, Yes – they are using a law to prosecute him. But they are not using a law to prohibit his free speech. They are suinging him for breach of contract. Please permit me to give you an example … Okay. Let’s say that you [A K A Stone} want to come to work for me [Gatlin] and before I hire you, I have you sign a written agreement [contact] whereby you formally and legally agree that you will never tell anyone anything about me. But after you sign that agreement [contract] and come to work for me, you learn some things about me that you want to tell everybody about. So you say to me: “I am going to tell everyone things about you.” And then you proceed to do just that. Well, after you do that – I can then sue you for breech of contract and I will not be “ using a law [to] prohibit free speech.” That, my dear friend, is as clear as I can possibly make it. And that is exactly what is happening between the DOJ and Snowden. It has nothing – ABSOLUTELY NOTHING – to do with his freedom of speech. And I close by wishing a happy Sunday morning to you. Salute,
#32. To: sneakypete (#15) When you have a security clearance you sign documents promising you will never reveal any information you gain due to the access your clearance gives you,and agree to the punishments outlined on the papers you sign. EVEN when the gubmint is clearly illegally VIOLATING the 4A ("unreasonable search & seizure")? To whom is an Oath made? To certain people in a rogue Gubmint? Or on behalf of the US Constitution? If you don't want to go to prison,either don't sign the papers and take the job,or stay silent. So. Break the law. Murder people. It's ok cuz, "JUST FOLLOW ORDERS", eh? Worked well in the Reich.
#33. To: sneakypete (#17) So they are cleverly keeping it out of circulation by allowing Amazon to sell it via mail order? They apparently haven't much choice in the matter. Unless they openly assassinate him. It's not as though the reptilian global spy agencies are "cleverly" and secretly wanting Snowden's book published -- is that what you're inferring?
#34. To: Liberator (#11) They still don't want the book read and info shared, do they? I have no idea. It does appear, however, that they don't want classified information released.
#35. To: misterwhite (#34) ...they don't want classified information released. I concur. But additionally, they also don't like their entire operation exposed as illegal, immoral, dishonest, and abuse of authority and resources.
#36. To: Gatlin, A K A Stone, Deckard (#31) Please permit me to give you an example … Maintaining privacy about personal matters are one thing.... It's when acts and events start adversely affecting others. Would this mythical case of this written/oral contract (or oath) also necessarily exonerate you from extenuating circumstances -- like committing treason, hurting people, and committing other highly illegal, immoral acts? By demanding oaths, isn't one justifying a "Code of Honor" among thieves, rogues and scoundrels? THIS is one reason God has explicitly frowned upon taking oaths to men in Scripture. THEY become authority over God's Law.
#37. To: Liberator (#35) But additionally, they also don't like their entire operation exposed as illegal, immoral, dishonest, and abuse of authority and resources. Yep. We never would have known all that without this book.
#38. To: Gatlin (#31) I understand that you are saying the DOJ is using a law to prohibit Snowden’s “freedom of speech.” Although he admittedly is in full violation of the non-disclosure agreement [contract] he signed with the agencies. Let me see – how shall I properly express my take on this to you … No matter how you cut it they are using a law to silence him. No search warrants shall be issued except describing the exact place to be searched and what they are searching for with the permission a a judge. Well they don't have a warrant to listen to everyone's calls. They were breading the law. Snowden is a brave patriot for exposing the treasonous government.
#39. To: misterwhite (#37) Yep. We never would have known all that without this book. You are hinting that he said what we already knew. Well if that is the case then you should shut up we already knew what he said.
#40. To: misterwhite (#37) (Edited) Yep. We never would have known all that without this book. Well to be honest, most people still did NOT believe Snowden's revelations -- given the MSM and goobermint tag-teaming smear of Snowden as a malcontent and rat who "jeopardized America's national security." THIS BOOK DOCUMENTS an entire operation of what was/is still an illegal, immoral, dishonest polcy and abuse by authority and resources. Q: Do you believe there is good moral standing, legal standing and reason to surveil every single American's movement and life of every America? And if so, by what Constitutional Law or common sense reason?
#41. To: misterwhite (#34) It does appear, however, that they don't want classified information released. Yeah they don't want their confidential crimes exposed. Snowden exposed treason and the people responsible should pay the heaviest price.
#42. To: A K A Stone, Gatlin (#38) ...They don't have a warrant to listen to everyone's calls. Truth.
#43. To: A K A Stone (#41) Snowden exposed treason Where's THAT headline? Let's get those details out there into the public arena. Where are they?
#44. To: Tooconservative (#30) No, you were clear enough. Gatlin was merely "apologizing" strategically as a way to continue to try to advance his own argument that you are profoundly wrong (but you have every right to be wrong in a way so mysterious that Gatlin cannot possibly even comprehend that you might hold a reasonable fact-based opinion).
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! #45. To: A K A Stone (#38) Huh – you say. Well, it turns out that Rand Paul is absolutely correct. Let’s understand how that is … Paul explained how the NSA routinely and deliberately spies on Americans’ communications — listens to their calls and reads their emails — without a judicial warrant of any kind: And so they did this to President Obama. They — 1,227 times eavesdrops on President Obama’s phone calls. Then they mask him. But here is the problem. And General Hayden said this the other day. He said even low-level employees can unmask the caller. That is probably what happened to Flynn. They are not targeting Americans. They are targeting foreigners. But they are doing it purposefully to get to Americans. […] https://theintercept.com/2017/03/13/rand-paul-is-right-nsa-routinely-monitors- americans-communications-without-warrants/ Salute,
#46. To: Liberator (#32) EVEN when the gubmint is clearly illegally VIOLATING the 4A ("unreasonable search & seizure")? How do you know the government didn't apply for,and get a search warrant? You don't. There IS such a thing as classified search warrants. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. #47. To: Liberator (#33) It's not as though the reptilian global spy agencies are "cleverly" and secretly wanting Snowden's book published -- is that what you're inferring? No,I am merely stating the obvious. The book and the classified info in it are already in the public domain,and you can't unring a bell. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. #48. To: Liberator (#32) EVEN when the gubmint is clearly illegally VIOLATING the 4A ("unreasonable search & seizure")? How the HELL are they doing that? To whom is an Oath made? To certain people in a rogue Gubmint? Or on behalf of the US Constitution? To the Federal Government,and NOBODY MAKES you take the oath or sign the paper. You are free to walk away if you want. So. Break the law. Murder people. It's ok cuz, "JUST FOLLOW ORDERS", eh? Worked well in the Reich. When did you turn into a hysterical drama queen? One word for you,"Midol". In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. #49. To: Liberator (#40) Q: Do you believe there is good moral standing, legal standing and reason to surveil every single American's movement and life of every America? And if so, by what Constitutional Law or common sense reason? Snowden is NOT a regular citizen whose mail is being read. He is a man that AGREED to not disclose any classified information he would gain access to after ACCEPTING a job that gave him access to classified information that could damage the security of America if it became general knowledge. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. #50. To: sneakypete (#16) (Edited) You don't think the Feebs didn't spy on recent German immigrants during WW-2? Hell,they put Japanese people who were born as US citizens in internment camps for the duration of the war. They put a significant number of Germans in America in the same kind of internment camps for the duration of the war. Interestingly, they were kept confined longer than the Japanese were after the war ended in 1945. These were the German American Bund which is a nice name to use instead of American Nazi Party (which was later established as a party in the Fifties).
#51. To: Tooconservative, A K A Stone (#30) Gatlin is gaslighting you with his manipulative so-called "apology". I had to look that up - very apt description of Gatlin's tactics. ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #52. To: Deckard, A K A Stone (#51) I had to look that up - very apt description of Gatlin's tactics. Hmmm… Where were we? Please help me correctly understand. I think you said that “gaslighting” is a “very apt description of Gatlin’s tactics.” I am a very old man, and I sometimes don’t get things straight. Did I get that right? Well, if that be so – then I guess that my “Columbo Method” needs more practice. Obviously … Salute,
#53. To: Deckard (#51) I had to look that up - very apt description of Gatlin's tactics. Hmmm… Where were we? Please help me correctly understand. I think you said that “gaslighting” is a “very apt description of Gatlin’s tactics.” I am a very old man, and I sometimes don’t get things straight. Did I get that right? Well, if that be so – then I guess I need to practice on my “Columbo Method” needs more practice Obviously … Edit: Since I am so generous this morning – I will let you in on another of my techniques. I always start my effective price negotiations with “ I am an old man on fixed income and …” Depending on the price and profit margin involved, that usually will get me five to ten percent right from the start. Then I move ever so slowly forward with a hesitantly speech pattern using a modified “dumb” Columbo Method and work towards twenty five percent in my favor. Or, as close as I can get. I do often time use the “walk away” knowing full well they need to sell more that I want to buy. I Have now shared with you, two secrets this morning. I will tell you more of my secrets. But it will cost you – dearly. Salute,
#54. To: Gatlin (#53) I will tell you more of my secrets. Keep your perversions to yourself freakshow. ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. . . . Comments (55 - 88) not displayed. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
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