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Title: Mark Sanford announces Trump primary challenge
Source: Washington Times
URL Source: https://www.washingtontimes.com/new ... unces-trump-primary-challenge/
Published: Sep 9, 2019
Author: David Sherfinski
Post Date: 2019-09-09 00:35:04 by Hondo68
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In this July 21, 2018, file photo, Republican politician Mark Sanford speaks at OZY Fest in Central Park in New York. (Photo by Evan Agostini/Invision/AP) ** FILE **
In this July 21, 2018, file photo, Republican politician Mark Sanford speaks at OZY Fest in Central Park in New York. (Photo by Evan Agostini/Invision/AP) ** FILE **

Former Gov. Mark Sanford on Sunday said he will mount a primary challenge to President Trump in 2020, jumping into the race after publicly toying with the idea for several months.

He said there needs to be a “conversation” on what it means to be a Republican.

“I think that as a Republican Party we have lost our way,” said the former South Carolina governor on “Fox News Sunday.”

Asked if he honestly thinks he has a shot at winning, Mr. Sanford said: “I’m saying, you never know.”

“The thing that has been lacking in this debate has been an earnest and real conversation on debt and deficits and government spending, and I find it astounding to watch the number of Democratic debates that I’ve seen and no mention, no conversation on where we’re going with regard to debt,” he said.

Mr. Sanford had previously instituted an informal deadline of Labor Day to decide whether to jump in, but postponed the decision as his state steeled for the arrival of Hurricane Dorian.

Mr. Sanford joins former Massachusetts Gov. Bill Weld and former Rep. Joe Walsh as the most prominent candidates mounting long-shot primary challenges to Mr. Trump, who continues to enjoy overwhelming support among GOP voters.

He said there should also be a serious conversation about the president’s tariff and trade policies, as well as on “humility” and a general approach to politics.

“We’re not going to solve some of the profound problems that we have as Americans by tweet,” Mr. Sanford said.

Mr. Sanford lost in a primary contest of his own last year after he had emerged as one of the few Republicans on Capitol Hill willing to publicly criticize the president.

In 2009, while serving as governor of South Carolina, he also admitted to a highly publicized extramarital affair. After an unexplained absence, his office said he had been hiking the Appalachian Trail when he had really been in Argentina with his then-girlfriend.

Mr. Sanford said Sunday that he went on an “apology tour” after his indiscretions came to light, and that he learned another level of humility and empathy.

“And in contrast to the president, when he says there’s not a single thing that he sort of regrets or apologizes for, I profoundly apologize for that,” he said. “And I believe in the Christian model of repentance and renewal and a second chance.”

But Mr. Sanford and others face a steep uphill climb against Mr. Trump, who is extraordinarily popular among Republicans and has labeled Mr. Sanford, Mr. Weld, and Mr. Walsh the “Three Stooges.”

Rep. Doug Collins, the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, on Sunday said Mr. Sanford’s energy would probably be better spent elsewhere.

“Let’s all come together and put this president back and reelect him, and I think that’s what needs to happen in our party right now,” Mr. Collins, Georgia Republican, said on Fox News’ “Sunday Morning Futures.”

Mr. Sanford’s announcement also came as Republican parties in states like South Carolina, Nevada, and Kansas have moved to cancel or curtail their presidential nominating contests next year.

Mr. Weld and Mr. Walsh have cried foul, as the moves have invited criticism that the party is trying to shut down any opposition to Mr. Trump.

“They are literally denying their residents the right to vote to protect this incumbent president,” Mr. Walsh said in a recent appearance on CNN. “This president is like a mob boss and it’s beyond disappointing. The Republican National Committee, the Republican Party that pretty much controls a lot of these state parties, they’re doing all of Trump’s bidding. They worship him. They’re like a cult as well as so many of his voters.”

But the state parties have said the moves are cost-saving measures, and defenders have pointed to the past precedent of both parties moving to cancel or curtail their presidential nominating contests when they have an incumbent president running for reelection.

As a general rule, there’s “no rationale” to hold a primary when either party has an incumbent president in the White House, said Drew McKissick, chairman of the South Carolina Republican Party.

“With no legitimate primary challenger and President Trump’s record of results, the decision was made to save South Carolina taxpayers over $1.2 million and forgo an unnecessary primary,” Mr. McKissick said.


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#1. To: Hondo68 (#0)

Weld, Sanford and Walsh can have a debate without Donnell.

And they won't even have to leave their campaign headquarters: MSNBC's offices in NYC.

Meanwhile, I just wonder who Bill Kristol and the rest of the crew at Weekly Standard The Bulwark will be backing. What's a NeverTrumper to do? And what about Evan McMullen, the Mormon ex-CIA analyst that the NeverTrumpers had on the ballot in many states in 2016 to try to defeat Trump?

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-09   4:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Hondo68 (#0)

Republican officials in multiple states are on the verge of canceling their 2020 presidential primary elections in a show of support for President Donald Trump, even as some GOP candidates plan to challenge him.

Party leaders in South Carolina, Nevada and Arizona have all expressed support for nixing their presidential primaries, and are expected to make it official over the coming weeks. Leaders of the South Carolina and Nevada Republican parties will each meet Saturday to reach a decision, while the Arizona GOP Executive Committee will discuss its decision at a Sept. 14 meeting. Kansas Republicans are also considering nixing their primary, according Politico, which was the first to report on the moves by state Republican parties to cancel their primaries.

"This is nothing new, despite the media's inauthentic attempt to portray it as such," Arizona GOP Chairman Kelli Ward said. "Arizona Republicans are fired up to re-elect President Trump to a second term and will continue to work together to keep America -- and Arizona -- great."

The move to forgo presidential primaries reflects Trump's steel grip on the GOP establishment and the party's voters as he heads into his reelection campaign.It is not unprecedented for state Republicans or Democrats to decide not to hold a presidential primary when an incumbent is running essentially uncontested. In South Carolina, a key early primary state, Republicans decided to nix their presidential primaries in 1984 and 2004, when Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush were up for their second terms; while state Democrats skipped their contests in 1996 and 2012, with Bill Clinton and Barack Obama running for reelection, respectively.

"Whether or not to hold a presidential primary is a decision made by our state executive committee every four years," South Carolina GOP Chairman Drew McKissick said. "There is strong precedent on the part of both parties to not hold a primary when they control the White House."

What is different in this election, however, is that a number of Republicans have expressed interest in challenging Trump. Former Republican Rep. Mark Sanford of South Carolina has said he is nearing a decision on a possible bid, while two Republicans, former Rep. Joe Walsh of Illinois and former Massachusetts Gov. Bill Weld, are already in the race.

For these challengers, the inability to compete in multiple primaries could all but block an already unlikely path to victory. Meanwhile, it's unlikely that Trump would agree to primary debates, denying his GOP rivals an important platform.

"The RNC and the Republican Party are firmly behind the president," said RNC spokeswoman Blair Ellis, "and any effort to challenge him in a primary is bound to go absolutely nowhere."

WWG1WWA  posted on  2019-09-09   8:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: WWG1WWA, Tooconservative (#2)

Donnell brings new meaning to the phrase, Leading From Behind.

Sanford/Massie 2020!



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Hondo68  posted on  2019-09-09   9:19:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Hondo68 (#3)

Disgusting, Hondo

WWG1WWA  posted on  2019-09-09   9:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: WWG1WWA, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#4)

Disgusting

Yes, he's a REAL Republican like Mitt, McCrazy and Team Bushbot.

They hate Americans, because we're free.



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Hondo68  posted on  2019-09-09   10:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Hondo68 (#5)

Yes, he's a REAL Republican like Mitt, McCrazy and Team Bushbot.

Well, they did all win the GOP presidential nomination in their races and so they are pretty much the definition of what a Republican is. Trump won the nomination and the WH so he is also, by definition, a Republican.

I'm not sure why you have such problems grasping this. Parties are most often defined by the politics and personal qualities of its leaders and by the established permanent political interests of the party's biggest donors. The GOP is quite typical in this.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-09   10:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Hondo68 (#0)

Sanford is the former governor of South Carolina,probably the most corrupt state in the union if adjusted for population levels.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-09-09   11:11:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: WWG1WWA (#2)

For these challengers, the inability to compete in multiple primaries could all but block an already unlikely path to victory.

Doesn't matter. They aren't running because they actually think they can win. They are running to skim from the donations,write books in the future,be paid to appear on talk shows,etc,etc,etc.

*I* have as much chance of beating Trump for the Republican nomination as any of them do,and I'm not running.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-09-09   11:15:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Where we are REALLY going with regards to debt and deficits.

(1) We have the government we want. We want the large military footprint. We want universal public education, social security, medicare, medicaid, public highways, national parks, etc. We want some sort of guarantee of health insurance for all. We're not going to give up on any of these things and stop wanting them, and we're not going to allow arguments about debt and deficit to stop us from having what we want, because we want those things more than we want to either be debt free or operate with balanced budgets. That means:

(2) We will always operate with debt and deficits. We do not want the levels of taxation that would be required to pay in full for what we want each year. Therefore, we will continue to accumulate some debt. If the accumulated debt does not exceed the taxable growth of economy, we can continue to run deficits forever. The debt will rise in nominal dollars, but relative to the overall national wealth and GDP, also numbered in nominal dollars, it won't affect anything. In other words, deficit spending and debt drives inflation, and to a certain degree we will inflate our way into carrying the cost.

(3) Currently, we are expanding debt and deficit faster than inflation and the growth rate of the GDP can sustain. Therefore, we need to raise taxes to pay for what we want. The working classes are suffering a declining standard of living, and middle classes are barely holding steady. So the new tax burdens will be focused upon the rich. There are different ways of doing this. I have my preference, but there is no guarantee that the nation will do it my way, only that we will do it, since the other options: cutting something we want, is more painful to us than a nation than raising taxes on the rich, where the money resides. We will first max out the credit card, to the point that we can no longer increase the debt. As that point nears, we will finally bite the bullet and tax the rich.

That's the future. When we do, the rich will growl and cuss, but we will preserve what we want, and as long as our taxes on the rich are lower than what they will pay in London, Paris, Tokyo, the Riviera, Capri, Stockholm, etc, they will grumble, like everybody else does, but that's it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-09-09   14:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sneakypete (#8) (Edited)

They aren't running because they actually think they can win. They are running to skim from the donations,write books in the future,be paid to appear on talk shows,etc,etc,etc.

That's where Donnell got started, and look where he is now. In the WH!



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Hondo68  posted on  2019-09-09   14:16:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Hondo68 (#0)

Another parasite asshole trying to restart a failed corrupt career and some book sales.

Pfffft. Gone by Halloween.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2019-09-09   16:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#9)

(3) Currently, we are expanding debt and deficit faster than inflation and the growth rate of the GDP can sustain. Therefore, we need to raise taxes to pay for what we want. The working classes are suffering a declining standard of living, and middle classes are barely holding steady. So the new tax burdens will be focused upon the rich. There are different ways of doing this. I have my preference, but there is no guarantee that the nation will do it my way, only that we will do it, since the other options: cutting something we want, is more painful to us than a nation than raising taxes on the rich, where the money resides. We will first max out the credit card, to the point that we can no longer increase the debt. As that point nears, we will finally bite the bullet and tax the rich.

Obviously, this is the scenario I was describing.

When we have to cancel new stealth battleships and carriers because the interest paid exceeds the cost of the entire defense budget, things will get pretty tough for the cowardly pols.

That day of fiscal reckoning is only a few years off at the present rate.

OTOH, if Trump succeeds in his trade policy and stops the endless expansion of social spending on immigrants who need welfare to survive in America, we could see a big expansion of the domestic economy, relative declines in imports and rising tax revenues.

I'm not betting against Trump but that is a very heavy lift for any prez outside of operating under a full declaration of war as FDR or Lincoln had.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-09   17:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Hank Rearden (#11)

Pfffft. Gone by Halloween.

He could wait until December and switch parties to become the LP nominee. I have no doubt they're already planning to make Sanford an offer. He was always a big fiscal hawk and the LP likes that message and always has.

Buchanan, as you may recall, made a big stink for Bush Senior in '92 at the convention but came back to run in 2000 against Bush Junior. After it was clear the deck was stacked against him, Buchanan also jumped ship and became the Reform Party nominee.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-09   17:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete, buckeroo (#8)

*I* have as much chance of beating Trump for the Republican nomination as any of them do,and I'm not running.

Sorry, I can't support you.

LF's official candidate in every presidential election is buckeroo's dead dog, Scruffy.

Scruffy forever!

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-09   17:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Hondo68 (#10)

That's where Donnell got started, and look where he is now. In the WH!

Still crazy,I see.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-09-09   21:24:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Vicomte13 (#9)

Currently, we are expanding debt and deficit faster than inflation and the growth rate of the GDP can sustain.

All too true. That is the beauty of fiat money, it's all free until it takes a wheelbarrow full to buy a loaf of bread. Trump knows this. The real problem has been Globalism. They need to destroy the USA to make the NWO happen. That was the goal until we elected Trump. He is literally the only man they could not buy.

Now PDJT enters office, knowing the rigging and theft that has been going on by both sides of the aisle. Black projects, friends to buy, special needs for the aristocracy. They all become wealthy in office, quite the scam.

Fact is, money is allocated for specifics in their rulings and budgets, but they are then robbed and the money spread around, just like they did with our SS funds.

The Military was in awful shape when Trump took office. All those bullets J. Nap bought, and the military lacked ammo. Why was that?

Then they spring a major invasion on our southern border which has already cost us $183 billion by August of this year alone. It will continue to cost us multi-billions until we cut off the supply.

Too many years of neglect means much needs to be repaired and rebuilt. Notice they quibble over a few billion for the Wall, yet literally spend billions on other notions that benefit no one but themselves and closest bffs.

PDJT is doing an amazing job of turning this ship around. It will not happen overnight, but just slashing billions in this dept. and billions in that dept. is making a small dent. Department budgets are being slashed and the #DeepState is furious. Hence the incessant blathering, fury and angst. He is shrinking government and cutting off their cash supply. We will of necessity pay a price if we want that global train to stop robbing us. It had to happen sooner or later. You can only push that buck so far, then it comes back on you.

PDJT will bring back currency backed by gold. This is his intent. Before that happens, they will continue to fight him on every side because they know their $$$ goose is cooked.

WWG1WWA  posted on  2019-09-10   10:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: WWG1WWA (#16)

PDJT will bring back currency backed by gold.

That won't happen. He has far too much on his plate already. Some future President may propose that.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-09-10   10:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative (#14)

Sorry, I can't support you.

LF's official candidate in every presidential election is buckeroo's dead dog, Scruffy.

Scruffy forever!

If you can't vote for me,that's ok. I understand previous committments.

How about send me some money just in case Scuffy crashes and I'm the only candidate left?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-09-11   10:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete, buckeroo (#18)

How about send me some money just in case Scuffy crashes and I'm the only candidate left?

Well, Scruffy is dead as a doornail so I'm not sure how much more he can crash than he already has.

OTOH, being dead is a great attribute in a candidate. They won't change their positions and flipflop, they can't get bought off by some sleazy donors via anonymous PACs, they can't schtup the office help, make bad speeches, tweet stupid crap, etc.

Scruffy being dead is actually the main reason I'm supporting him.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-12   8:29:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Tooconservative (#19)

Scruffy being dead is actually the main reason I'm supporting him.

You make several valid points in his favor. Chances are he even has a higher IQ that some of the Dim candidates,and still works harder.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-09-12   19:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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