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International News Title: ChinaÂ’s exports fall unexpectedly in August, as trade war continues to slam industrial economy China’s exports fall unexpectedly in August, as trade war continues to slam industrial economy Shipments down 1 per cent in month despite analysts forecasting further growth after 3.3 per cent rise in July. Imports remain cause of concern for Beijing, falling 5.6 per cent in August, meaning they have only grown in one month in 2019. China’s exports fell unexpectedly in August, as the trade war with the United States continued to hit the world’s second largest economy. Exports fell by 1 per cent last month after growing 3.3 per cent in July. The August result was below the 2.1 per cent growth expected in poll of analysts conducted by Bloomberg. July’s expansion now seems like an anomaly, likely driven by front-loading as new tariffs of 15 per cent on about US$110 billion of Chinese goods that took effect on September 1. American buyers of Chinese goods subject to the new tariffs were likely to have filled their inventories as much as possible before the goods became more expensive to import. Furthermore, the much-reported 3.8 per cent depreciation of the yuan in August failed to stop the decline in exports - despite Washington’s fears that it was being used to give China’s exporters an unfair advantage. It is a far cry from the double-digit expansion that characterised the export machine that powered the Chinese economy for more than two decades. Overall in August, the value of China’s total import and export was US$394.76 billion, down 3.2 per cent on a year earlier. Imports also remain a huge cause of concern to policymakers in Beijing. They fell by 5.6 per cent in August after a 5.3 per cent decline in July. This was slightly better than the Bloomberg poll, which had predicted a 6.5 per cent contraction. Chinese imports have now declined in every month of 2019 apart from April. To understand the scale of the import collapse, compare it to last year, when the average monthly growth was 16.6 per cent, with only a single negative reading, in December 2018. Analysts have been raising concerns about China’s consumption levels for months, with retail sales underperforming and various bouts of government stimulus failing to kick-start purchases of big ticket items such as cars. The sluggish imports suggest the government support has yet to trickle into the real economy. The import slump also points to a downturn in the manufacturing sector: many of China’s imports are components ordered by factories, often for use in goods for export. In the most recent official manufacturing purchasing managers’ index, a gauge of factory owners’ sentiment, export orders remained in negative territory for the 15th month in a row. Overall, China’s trade surplus in August was US$34.84 billion, down from US$41.61 billion in July and behind analysts’ expectation for US$44.25 billion. However, this was an increase of 32.5 per cent on a year earlier, according to a release from the National Bureau of Statistics on Sunday. In a report released on Thursday, the Institute of International Finance, an organisation of bankers based in Washington, had said that China’s surplus over the first half of the year had hit record highs, despite the ongoing trade war. “Meanwhile, our proxy for China’s underlying trade surplus, which controls for commodity prices by excluding oil and iron ore, was the highest ever in the first half of 2019,” read the report. “Perhaps more surprising, given repeated rounds of tariffs, is that China’s exports remain robust. Part of the resilience in China’s exports reflects a shift in composition, away from the US and towards the euro zone and other economies in Asia, including Vietnam,” the authors said. Top negotiators from China and the US are set to meet in early October for their first face-to-face talks since August. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Best to bite the bullet now and get this over with China. We've paid for their military and made billionaires out of communists. An Amazing feat. Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs. #2. To: WWG1WWA (#0) China will cave to Trump. There is far more danger to China, both short-term and long-term, in allowing this trade war to continue. China needs America far far more than America needs China. And both sides know it. Nor can China hold out and hope to see Trump defeated in 2020. By then, China's growth economy is certain to stall in major ways and the tariffs will encourage manufacturers to relocate their operations to other countries. Trump's objectives are to open China's markets and to diversify our imports away from their concentration in China's workshop.
Trump has time to win his trade war with China and extract major concessions prior to the 2019 X-mas season. China would like to take Trump down. But not at the cost of losing factories to other countries not named China. China isn't willing to suffer the kind of permanent pain that trying to defeat Trump would cost them. And that is why the Chinese are so eager to negotiate in D.C. next month.
#3. To: Tooconservative (#2) The Chinese economy was already in trouble. It subsidizes their industries and just bailed out a few major banks. There will be no new American innovation to steal, also. I've never understood our factories staying in China when they know their secrets are stolen and produced & marketed cheaper than they can. Theft of property, smh.
#4. To: WWG1WWA (#3) I've never understood our factories staying in China when they know their secrets are stolen and produced & marketed cheaper than they can. Theft of property, smh. They are very accommodating to get foreign factories built there. They've learned that it isn't so easy to relocate elsewhere once the factory is running. They also have something of a monopoly on rare earth elements needed in manufacture of a lot of high-tech items. They leverage that need against the IP of foreign companies, forcing them to locate there if they want those rare earth elements, like neodymium and others for things like cell phones and tablets and lithium batteries. 0bama took China to trade arbitration over its refusal to export rare earth products in 2014 and China did comply by 2015. But much of the damage was done by then with key factories being built there in the meantime and workforces trained to build those products in China. China felt overall that they had stolen a march on America and on its rivals, like South Korea and Taiwan. And they were right to think it was shrewd industrial policy. If we're determined, China does comply. But not if we just ask nicely. Trump knows this and China knows that he knows this.
#5. To: WWG1WWA (#0) (Edited) Just wait until the Chicom murdering tyrants are forced to admit that Hong Kong is beginning to disinvest and on its way to becoming just another commie shithole long before 2047. No matter how the current riots resolve, who in the hell would ever want to put money into HK again? They're already negotiating leases and banking arrangements elsewhere. I just hope the Chinese people catch the commie tyrants as they try to escape and roast them in the streets.
#6. To: Tooconservative (#4) They also have something of a monopoly on rare earth elements needed in manufacture of a lot of high-tech items. Rare earths are all over the earth. The Chinese have merely developed their mining more. There's a pile of them in Afghanistan, easy to get out of the ground (harder to ship). In Canada and the Rockies, in the Andes, probably in the Alps (though who's going to look). For strategic reasons we need to develop the supplies in the Americas, particularly in the US, Canada and Mexico. We have them and we know it - time to get them online. They are also present in seawater, as are all minerals. It's not economically feasible yet to extract minerals from seawater (it certainly can be done - the Germans extracted some gold from it after World War I in a bid to pay sanctions. Ultimately they determined that the concentration levels of gold in seawater were only a tenth of their earlier predictions, so it was non-economical due to all of the coal that needed to be burnt to do it. Use sunlight, and you can get all of the precious metals and all of the rare earths you need out of the brine left from the seawater you turned into freshwater for agricultural purposes. As solar power gets cheaper and cheaper, sunny places like the Mexican coasts become places to experiment with that.
#7. To: Vicomte13 (#6) Rare earths are all over the earth. The Chinese have merely developed their mining more. There's a pile of them in Afghanistan, easy to get out of the ground (harder to ship). In Canada and the Rockies, in the Andes, probably in the Alps (though who's going to look). Yeah but who wants the pollution that results from mining and refining them? Nobody. China was smart to grab on to it and leverage their industrial policy but they have the usual utter commie indifference to long-term pollution problems. China has a very large lake of toxic byproducts from its production of lithium batteries (5.5 miles in diameter). But their dominance with lithium has faded the last few years. It sounds like these new lithium production methods aren't as bad as what China used for its rare-earth processing. But it is far from clean.
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