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LEFT WING LOONS Title: Perth vegan demands neighbour stop cooking barbecues A Perth vegan has taken her neighbours all the way to the Supreme Court, demanding they stop smoking, bouncing balls and even cooking barbecues in the backyard. Cilla Carden, from Girrawheen, in Perth's northern suburbs said she's fed up with the smell of meat cooking on the barbecue next door. "They've put it there so I smell fish, all I can smell is fish. I can't enjoy my backyard, I can't go out there." The massage therapist claims her neighbours are doing it on purpose. Ms Carden, a massage therapist, is also furious at cigarette smoke wafting into her yard and the sound of children playing with basketballs next door. "It's been devastating, it's been turmoil, it's been unrest, I haven't been able to sleep," she said. But one neighbour invited 9News into the backyard, to show that he's removed the barbecue and told his children to stop playing basketball. Ms Carden is so upset she has taken her neighbours to the State Administrative Tribunal and the Supreme Court. "It's deliberate, that's what I told the courts, its deliberate." But a Supreme Court Judge and the State Administrative Tribunal have sided with her neighbours, dismissing her case. Her request to appeal the decisions has also been refused. Ms Carden says she won't give up on her fight and will return to court soon. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 16. #1. To: All, Tooconservative (#0) Well, do you agree with her? Should she use the courts to force others to comply with her wishes?
#4. To: misterwhite (#1) Well, do you agree with her? Should she use the courts to force others to comply with her wishes? It's Australia and they're all commies. So I don't care.
#5. To: Tooconservative (#4) https://boom997.com/news/5853199/vegan-sues-bbq-neighbours/ Uh-oh. The word got out and there's hell to pay. "Now, thousands of people have marked themselves as “attending” a community cookout outside this woman’s home called called event “Community BBQ for Cilla Carden” on Oct. 19.
Nearly 9000 people have said they’re interested in attending the event set for Oct. 19, which clearly intends to mock Carden’s case against her neighbours. Cilla Carden has a problem with her neighbours cooking meat on their BBQ, because she’s a vegan. Recently taking them to the Supreme Court,” creator of the event Bailey Mason wrote. “Don’t let Cilla destroy a good old Aussie tradition, join us for a community BBQ, and help Cilla Carden GET SOME PORK ON HER FORK.”
Per the Evening Standard, the court dismissed her case in January, saying she didn’t have enough evidence, but Carden was convinced this was a violation of her rights as a homeowner.
She proceeded to file a 600-page document detailing her appeal, The West Australian reported, saying that she intends to keep fighting the battle.
“What they’re doing is living in their backyard and their home as a family,” the State Administrative Tribunal of Western Australia said, dismissing the case once more. The tribunal also stated that the neighbours made an effort to appease Carden by by moving their barbecue prior to the hearing last month. Reducing patio lightning, silencing their pets and replacing plants in their common garden, the Standard says, were just some of the woman’s lofty requests. The neighbour in question, who remained anonymous, invited Nine News into their backyard, showing that they’ve removed the barbecue and asked their kids to stop playing basketball in the backyard. “I’m a good person,” Carden told the Nine News. “I just want peace and quiet.”
#6. To: misterwhite (#5) “Don’t let Cilla destroy a good old Aussie tradition, join us for a community BBQ, and help Cilla Carden GET SOME PORK ON HER FORK.” I think displaying revenge motives or public mockery is likely to make the courts more sympathetic to her, not less. In addition, decisions in cases like this one often are extrapolated by a court to apply to an entire class of similar judicial decisions. Sooner or later, that backlog of previous judicial rulings and/or the recurrence of these types of cases will finally move a court decisively in an unexpected direction. The Australian court, a minor institution in a parliamentary country, is not as radical as the American Court but I wouldn't consider this a slamdunk at all.
#7. To: Tooconservative (#6) I think displaying revenge motives or public mockery is likely to make the courts more sympathetic to her, not less. Well, she failed twice. Maybe the third time's the charm. "Per the Evening Standard, the court dismissed her case in January, saying she didn’t have enough evidence …" "She proceeded to file a 600-page document detailing her appeal … the State Administrative Tribunal of Western Australia (dismissed) the case once more.
#8. To: misterwhite (#7) "Per the Evening Standard, the court dismissed her case in January, saying she didn’t have enough evidence …" Well, she might prevail if 9,000 people show up at her neighbor's house to deliberately inundate her with their smoke and meat odors and she documents it. She is persistent. And sometimes that is all it takes to eventually prevail in a court.
#9. To: Tooconservative (#8) Well, she might prevail if 9,000 people show up at her neighbor's house to deliberately inundate her with their smoke and meat odors and she documents it. Uh-huh. So the court will order the 9,000 people not to do it again. Maybe she could do us all a favor and go on vacation that day.
#10. To: misterwhite (#9) You certainly are worried about those poor Aussies. I guess there's nothing in America that concerns you so much. Unless someone questions the right of a 'fraidy-cop to shoot first and ask questions later. Then you get real upset.
#11. To: Tooconservative (#10) You certainly are worried about those poor Aussies. Nah. I only posted it for you to look at and compare to the it's-the-sabbath- and-I-can't-play story.
#12. To: misterwhite (#11) Nah. I only posted it for you to look at and compare to the it's-the-sabbath- and-I-can't-play story. I just don't see the applicability at all. If this was your idea of a comparable case at law, it didn't work because they are so different in almost every way.
#15. To: Tooconservative (#12) If this was your idea of a comparable case at law, No, not comparable case law, just similar situations -- a individual expecting others to change their otherwise acceptable behavior just to satisfy their unique and selfish needs. You didn't see that connection, huh? Perhaps I over-estimated your intelligence.
#16. To: misterwhite (#15) You didn't see that connection, huh? Because there is none. An Australian case involving nuisance among neighbors is not remotely comparable to an American case involving equal participation rights in sports in federally funded and regulated extracurricular youth sports in the public schools. One case is Australian property rights, the other is American civil rights. Title IX is the applicable legal framework, signed by Nixon in 1972 as a followup to the 1964 Civil Rights Act. This is its preamble:
Between these two landmark laws, virtually all discrimination is banned in public schools and other public venues and institutions and many other areas of life. That is why 0bama's gang tried to redefine the transsexuals as being the sex they choose to (pretend to) be, not the sex they were born as. In this way, transsexuals would be covered by both major laws in every educational institution in the country and most other public venues. No, the Aussie case is of middling interest. They don't have powerful courts and they don't have a constitution worth mentioning, like most parliamentary countries.
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