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Title: Former Marine said he’d ‘slaughter’ antifa. The FBI, using Oregon’s new red flag law, took his guns away
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The Oregonian
URL Source: https://www.oregonlive.com/news/201 ... ag-law-took-his-guns-away.html
Published: Aug 30, 2019
Author: Shane Dixon Kavanaugh
Post Date: 2019-08-31 13:38:05 by Tooconservative
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Views: 2128
Comments: 17
Shane Kohfield stood outside the home of Portland’s mayor in July wearing body armor and a “Make America Great Again” baseball cap, a large knife strapped to one shoulder and a copy of his concealed weapons permit displayed on the other. Using a loudspeaker, he warned the right-wing activists who turned out to condemn the city’s handling of recent violent demonstrations that they needed to protect themselves against their anti-fascist, or antifa, rivals. “If antifa gets to the point where they start killing us, I’m going to kill them next,” Kohfield, 32, said. “I’d slaughter them and I have a detailed plan on how I would wipe out antifa.” That threat pushed the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task to take a series of extraordinary steps against Kohfield, including temporary seizure of a cache of his firearms under Oregon’s new “red flag” law aimed at preventing gun violence, The Oregonian/OregonLive has learned. The task force also had the ex-Marine committed to a veterans’ hospital in Portland. He spent the next 20 days there. The moves came as city officials and law enforcement prepared for potentially violent clashes Aug. 17 during a right-wing rally and counterprotests planned in downtown Portland that had become inflamed with incendiary political rhetoric nationwide. Police worried that they would end in catastrophe. Though Kohfield wasn’t accused or charged with any crimes, police took no chances and prevented him from attending the rally as he repeatedly had promised to do on social media after his confrontation at Mayor Ted Wheeler’s house. The episode shows that federal law enforcement may be beginning to take a more aggressive tack toward potential political threats, said Michael German, a retired FBI agent and fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School. “Clearly, this latest incident shows how effective proactive policing can be in reducing the chance of violence,” said German, who has monitored political street clashes in Portland and other parts of the country over the last few years. “It also makes you wonder if they’d been proactive from beginning whether all of this would have grown into the menace it has become.” The FBI declined to provide additional details about the case or answer questions submitted by The Oregonian/OregonLive. “The Portland JTTF’s role is to assess, address, and mitigate any given threat against the people of Oregon appropriately,” Beth Anne Steele, a spokeswoman for the bureau’s Portland office said in an email Friday. “Sometimes that mitigation takes the form of criminal prosecution, and sometimes it involves a holistic response, including consultation with threat assessment teams or others to divert a person before a significant violent crime occurs.” *** Kohfield, who spoke with The Oregonian/OregonLive, suffers from bipolar disorder and post-traumatic stress disorder, medical records show. He returned home Tuesday from the VA hospital and maintains he never planned to hurt or maim other people. But he understands why he alarmed police. “I looked unhinged. I looked dangerous and have the training to be dangerous,” said Kohfield, who lives with his father in Canby and receives disability payments for physical and psychological injuries he sustained during two tours of duty in Iraq. By leveling vicious warnings, Kohfield said, he hoped to deter others from causing physical harm. “I figured that the key to de-escalating the situation was to not be the most violent person in the room,” he said. “It was to be the scariest person in the room.” A supporter of President Donald Trump, Kohfield said he isn’t affiliated with Patriot Prayer, the Proud Boys or other right-wing groups that have organized marches and demonstration throughout Portland over the last 2 ½ years, some that have devolved into bloody brawls and riots. His protest activity, he said, has been limited to the event outside the mayor’s house and a right-wing rally last fall in downtown Portland, both organized by local conservative activist Haley Adams. “I was watching on the news that city of Portland did nothing to protect the people against antifa,” Kohfield said. “I figured I’d show up to protect these people.” *** By the time he popped up at the mayor’s house, Kohfield was already on the FBI’s radar. He had landed there in March after he sent a letter to Texas Rep. Dan Crenshaw, a first-term Republican congressman and former Navy Seal, according court documents filed in Clackamas County. The five-page letter, included in the court filings, accused Portland’s mayor and police of permitting anti-fascist activists to commit “savage attacks” against conservatives at protests, including the November rally where Kohfield said he was assaulted by masked demonstrators. Kohfield told Crenshaw that Congress needed to take immediate steps to declare antifa a terrorist organization. Otherwise, he and other veterans would have no choice but to begin systematically killing antifa members “until we have achieved genocide.” Kohfield included a detailed outline of how he would carry out the mission, which he argued would be legally justified if the federal government refused to act. The U.S. Capitol Police shared the letter with the FBI’s Portland office, which assigned the case to a Clackamas County sheriff’s deputy serving on the area’s Joint Terrorism Task Force, court records show. Deputy Jeremy Stinson interviewed Kohfield and his father at their home in April, according to the court documents. Stinson learned Kohfield had served in the Marines and kept guns in the house. Kohfield told the deputy he would defend himself the next time members of antifa attacked him. *** Nearly four months after the visit, the deputy was notified that Portland police had opened a non-criminal inquiry known as a threat investigation in response to the remarks Kohfield made July 20 at the mayor’s house. “I can’t say that he won’t kill someone,” Kohfield’s father told Portland police during their investigation, according to court records. He also told police that his son was taking medication for bipolar disorder, drinking heavily and had become increasingly agitated. “(Kohfield’s father) provided that Shane was really upset by Portland’s ‘liberal government’ and the state of the federal government,” the court documents read. Stinson included all these details in a July 25 affidavit seeking an “extreme risk protection order” against Kohfield, which a judge approved the same day. Such protection orders, introduced in Oregon in 2018, allow authorities to pry guns from people not convicted of a crime who show signs they might shoot themselves or someone else. Each protection order stands for a year but can be extended indefinitely. Those who have their guns taken away can appeal the decision. Judges statewide received 122 extreme risk protection order petitions through July 2019 and granted 98 of them, said Phil Lemman, Oregon’s acting deputy state court administrator. Kohfield’s is only the sixth approved in Clackamas County, records show. According to court documents and Kohfield, law enforcement officers served him with the order on Aug. 7 while he was visiting family in central Oregon. *** It’s not clear why law enforcement waited nearly two weeks to serve the order, but they did so only days after a pair of deadly mass shootings in El Paso, Texas, on Aug. 3 and Dayton, Ohio, the following day. Kohfield, who was unarmed, said at least a dozen officers stopped him while he was leaving a relative’s home outside Prineville. Officers said they planned to take Kohfield to the VA hospital in Portland. He said they then served him with the protection order. “I was told that I didn’t have a choice,” he said. “The cops were great. They were respectful and compassionate.” Kohfield said he was placed under psychiatric observation for five days. He said that he then volunteered to remain at the VA hospital for another two weeks. According to Lemman, the state court administrator, Kohfield surrendered an AR-15, a pistol, a rifle and a shotgun. The ex-Marine said he is done with attending protests or political demonstrations in Portland. “I have done everything I can possibly do to keep both sides from killing each other,” he said. “As long as they keep duking it out like this, it will achieve nothing.” Poster Comment: Antifa scum can threaten to make the streets run red with blood and actually attack people for wearing a hat they don't like, assault them with bike locks by striking them on the head, do all kinds of stuff. No one does a thing. This guy speaks out against the local political establishment and suggests that someday, if Antifa became dangerous enough and violent enough to start killing people openly, he'd deal with them directly. And that is the pretext for someone to invoke a red flag law. Red flag laws can be used with impunity to harass gunowners or put them under court supervision or even have them committed for observation. All without any factual basis or the opportunity for the accused to plead his case with the judge with the help of an attorney. It is a denial of due process rights IMO.
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#2. To: Tooconservative, Gatlin (#0)
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This guy speaks out against the local political establishment and suggests that someday, if Antifa became dangerous enough and violent enough to start killing people openly, he'd deal with them directly. And that is the pretext for someone to invoke a red flag law. And there is one of the problems with so-called Red Flag laws. Violent Leftist anarchists are apparently not dangerous - conservative gun owners are. “If antifa gets to the point where they start killing us, I’m going to kill them next,” Kohfield, 32, said. “I’d slaughter them and I have a detailed plan on how I would wipe out antifa.” That's not a threat - he's saying he will defend himself. Why is the FBI apparently protecting Antifa anyways? Are they (antifa) hired agents provocateur run by the deep state?
#3. To: Deckard (#2)
It's worth reading this article through. The veteran was a bit of a loose cannon, drinking hard and taking some prescribed drugs. He shot off his mouth to the local pols, etc. One key factor in drawing the FBI's interest was his letter to Crenshaw. They mention the Capitol police reading it and sending it on to the FBI. But did Crenshaw's staff read that letter and turn it over? Did Crenshaw give the go-ahead? Or is every last piece of mail sent to your congressman read/scanned for Bad Thoughts by the Capitol police prior to your congresscritter and his staff ever seeing it? (Recall how McStain got the Steele Dossier and promptly turned it over to the DoJ.) We do know that since the (alleged) anthrax attacks (for which the FBI persecution drove an accused innocent scientist to suicide), all mail to the Capitol (and the WH probably) is sent to and sorted at a secure facility with WMD precautions. If you own guns, you'd better be interested in what can trigger a red flag on you in your state and who can trigger that court order, all without you getting even a hearing in front of a judge. Maybe the moral of the story is: Don't write to your congressman.
I read it as "If Antifa starts murdering us wholesale and the cops don't stop them, I will massacre them." The guy is saying he'll be a vigilante against Antifa, not just the Antifa who do attack conservatives but against Antifa in general. This element is not wasted on FBI analysts trying to do (imperfect) threat assessments. After the "score" of a threat reaches a certain point, it triggers their response with the usual "better safe than sorry" excuses for the actions they undertook.
It was never my contention there wasn’t any problem with the Red Flag Laws. Before I proceed to thrash you and explain why, I will first stop to edify you for your intellectual improvement. The Red Flag Laws are definitely not “so called” – it is an “actual name of a law in some state”s that permits “police or family members to petition a state court to order the temporary removal of firearms from a person who may present a danger to others or themselves.” It behooves you to know and understand that. And since you are such an ignoramus who needs everything explained to him – I shall do so. Please read the following very carefully [You may use your finger to slowly follow along the words]: You desperately need to understand all I have ever done – over and over, again and again – in regard to the Red Flag Laws is to constantly try to get you to answer the two questions I first posted here. I will repeat for your short memory span: Salute,
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAntifa scum can threaten to make the streets run red with blood and actually attack people for wearing a hat they don't like, assault them with bike locks by striking them on the head, do all kinds of stuff. No one does a thing.
Replies to Comment # 2. And there is one of the problems with so-called Red Flag laws. Violent Leftist anarchists are apparently not dangerous - conservative gun owners are.
#4. To: Deckard (#2)
That's not a threat - he's saying he will defend himself.
#5. To: Deckard (#2)
And there is one of the problems with so-called Red Flag laws.
There was absolutely no reason for you to ping me to this. In addition to Red Flag such an order is also known by various names, including "Extreme Risk Protection Orders" (ERPO) (in Oregon, Washington, Maryland, and Vermont); "Risk Protection Orders" (in Florida); "Gun Violence Restraining Orders" (in California); "risk warrants" (in Connecticut); and "Proceedings for the Seizure and Retention of a Firearm" (in Indiana). As of August 2019, 17 states and the District of Columbia have passed some form of red-flag law. The specifics of the laws, and the degree to which they are enforced, vary from state to state.
So, stop with the “so called” shit when you are making an attempt to use a dismissive adjective where you are trying to be demeaning. Understand? My question to you, Deckard, is twofold:
Will you please – PLEASE- now answer those two questions?
Gatlin
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