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Bush Wars Title: CIA Man Retracts Claim on Waterboarding Well, it's official now: John Kiriakou, the former CIA operative who affirmed claims that waterboarding quickly unloosed the tongues of hard-core terrorists, says he didn't know what he was talking about. Kiriakou, a 15-year veteran of the agency's intelligence analysis and operations directorates, electrified the hand-wringing national debate over torture in December 2007 when he told ABC's Brian Ross and Richard Esposito in a much ballyhooed, exclusive interview that senior al Qaeda commando Abu Zubaydah cracked after only one application of the face cloth and water. "From that day on, he answered every question," Kiriakou said. "The threat information he provided disrupted a number of attacks, maybe dozens of attacks." No matter that Kiriakou wearily said he shared the anguish of millions of Americans, not to mention the rest of the world, over the CIA's application of the medieval confession technique. The point was that it worked. And the pro-torture camp was quick to pick up on Kiriakou's claim. "It works, is the bottom line," conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh exclaimed on his radio show the day after Kiriakou's ABC interview. "Thirty to 35 seconds, and it works." A cascade of similar acclamations followed, muffling -- to this day -- the later revelation that Zubaydah had in fact been waterboarded at least 83 times. Had Kiriakou left out something the first time? Now comes John Kiriakou, again, with a wholly different story. On the next-to-last page of a new memoir, The Reluctant Spy: My Secret Life in the CIA's War on Terror (written with Michael Ruby), Kiriakou now rather off handedly admits that he basically made it all up. "What I told Brian Ross in late 2007 was wrong on a couple counts," he writes. "I suggested that Abu Zubaydah had lasted only thirty or thirty-five seconds during his waterboarding before he begged his interrogators to stop; after that, I said he opened up and gave the agency actionable intelligence." But never mind, he says now. "I wasn't there when the interrogation took place; instead, I relied on what I'd heard and read inside the agency at the time." Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Waterboarding works. Lets see how Obama blames Bush tonight.... #2. To: go65 (#0) "I wasn't there when the interrogation took place; instead, I relied on what I'd heard and read inside the agency at the time." Chuckles...I heard from a guy who heard from a guy... Chyea...history is treating the Boy Blunder years REAL well...
#3. To: Badeye (#1) Waterboarding works. What's your definition of "works"?
#4. To: go65 (#3) The subject cooperates. Lets see how Obama blames Bush tonight.... #5. To: Badeye (#4) The subject cooperates. Who wouldn't cooperate when being tortured? Heck, I'm sure you would admit to being Barack Obama's biggest supporter if you were waterboarded. However, most interrogation experts argue that torture doesn't work, which is one of the big reasons Bush halted it in 2006.
#6. To: go65 (#0) "It works, is the bottom line," conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh exclaimed on his radio show the day after Kiriakou's ABC interview. "Thirty to 35 seconds, and it works." Pigboy, BushCo's water carrier ought to show us how well it works himself.
#7. To: Fred Mertz (#6) Pigboy, BushCo's water carrier ought to show us how well it works himself. Well, for Rush "it" doesn't work. Remember, he got busted for taking Viagra to the DR with a bunch of his buddies a few years ago. :-)
#8. To: go65 (#5) Who wouldn't cooperate when being tortured?
#9. To: go65 (#7) Yeah, and the prescription wasn't in his name, but rather his doctor's.
#10. To: Fred Mertz (#9) (Edited) Chyea...because if he was caught with it, he wouldn't want the publicity... As if that made any sense...
#11. To: Fred Mertz (#6) Pigboy, BushCo's water carrier ought to show us how well it works himself. Didn't Hannity offer to be waterboarded? I guess he chickened out because I never heard about that again.
#12. To: Bickus Dickus (#11) Didn't Hannity offer to be waterboarded? I don't know the answer to that one.
#13. To: go65 (#5) That assertion is simply not true, I know its a liberal religious sort of thing...but the historical facts disprove that quaint notion, conclusively. Lets see how Obama blames Bush tonight.... #14. To: Fred Mertz, Bickus Dickus (#12) NEW YORK — The debate over torture is getting personal for two of cable TV's prime-time hosts. After Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity made a seemingly impromptu offer last week to undergo waterboarding as a benefit for charity, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann leapt at it. He offered $1,000 to the families of U.S. troops for every second Hannity withstood the technique. Olbermann repeated the offer on Monday's show and said in an interview Tuesday that he's heard no response. He said he'll continue to pursue it. "I don't think he has the courage to even respond to this _ let alone do it," Olbermann said.
#15. To: go65 (#5) btw, I appreciate you and I can debate this, without ranting about Rush's sex life..(how that has anything to do with this...) Lets see how Obama blames Bush tonight.... #16. To: Badeye (#15) Just showing what a hypocrite Pills Limbaugh is since he's the poster boy for torture. Do you have your Club Gitmo t-shirt? (grin)
#17. To: Fred Mertz (#16) Whatever. Lets see how Obama blames Bush tonight.... #18. To: go65 (#0) But never mind, he says now. He lies just like that fool who presented the SOTU address! Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted? Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
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