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Title: Liberty & Tyranny by Mark Levin - A Book Review
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Published: Jan 24, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-01-24 10:22:12 by We The People
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Views: 34420
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I thought I'd get around to starting Levin's book today. Man, was I surprised to find fault in the very first paragraph. Actually, I wasn't surprised. IMO Levin is a neoconservative, so it's not really out of place for him to make the following statement:

Chapter One

On Liberty And Tyranny

There is simply no scientific or mathematical formula that defines conservatism. Moreover, there are competing voices today claiming the mantle of "true conservatism" - including neoconservatism (emphasis on a robust national security), paleo-conservatism (emphasis on preserving the culture), social conservatism (emphasis on faith and values), and libertarianism (emphasis on individualism), among others. Scores of scholars have written at length about what can be characterized as conservative thought. But my purpose is not to give them each exposition, as it cannot be fairly or adequately accomplished here, nor referee among them. Neither will I attempt to give birth to totally new theories.

LOL!

Good Lord, where do I start?

First of all, neoconservatives are not conservatives. Libertarians are not conservatives. Conservatives are conservatives and stating that a conservative can be any of these or any combination of these is ridiculous and only serves to water down the true meaning of a conservative.

For example, red is red and blue is blue. Add blue to red and you get purple. Add leftist positions to conservatism and you don't still have conservatism, you have neoconservatism, a moderate or in enough degrees, a liberal. Does Levin ascribe to the 'big tent' theory in which conservatives should allow all sorts of positions that traditionally are not conservative? Go along to get along? It would seem so.

Levin has a hard time defining conservatism because he doesn't understand it himself, or that would be my guess anyway. Not only does Levin start out by mischaracterizing conservatism, he also mischaracterizes neoconservatism, paleo-conservatism and libertarianism. Conservatives also believe in a strong national security which Levin attributes to neoconservatism, but conservatives don't believe in attacking countries preemptively who have not attacked us, nation building or policing the world.

A conservative is someone who wants to preserve, maintain and protect the Constitution as it was written, including the Bill of Rights, who wants to preserve, maintain and protect the form of government established by our founding fathers as outlined in our founding documents. A conservative wants to follow the advice given us by our founding fathers as to how our great country should work and conduct itself.

A conservative doesn't follow the Wilsonian, leftist position that we must project our strength and values around the world in order to remake the world in our image.

A conservative would follow the advice laid out by our first President, George Washington who said, "Observe good faith and justice toward all nations. Cultivate peace and harmony with all. Over grown military establishments are under any form of government inauspicious to liberty, and are to be regarded as particularly hostile to republican liberty."

It was Washington's belief that the United States must remain a neutral third party in order to survive.

Or Thomas Jefferson who stated, "Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none." Conservatives should then be against our entangling alliances in the UN, Nato, the WTO and any other multi-national organizations. Those organizations have done nothing for us except to erode our sovereignty and condition Americans to accept these alliances.

These are the visions of our founding fathers about how we should conduct ourselves around the world and it is THAT, that a conservative wishes to preserve.

A conservative definitely wants to preserve the culture of America as Levin puts forth about paleo-conservatives, including our form of government. A conservative has definite libertarian leanings and wholly agrees with our founding fathers vision on rights and liberties as laid out in our Bill of Rights.

A conservative DOES NOT adhere to the neoconservatives vision of foreign policy.

I'm looking forward to what else I might read in this book.

Has anyone here read it?

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#1. To: We The People (#0)

You should call Mark Levin yourself and bring your points up w/ him.

Phone: 1-877-381-3811
(Mon. - Fri. 6pm to 9pm)EST

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2010-01-24   10:31:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Client 9, We The People (#1)

If you do get through, ask Levin why he never addressed a caller's point that The Federalist #78 pretty much blew the premise of Levin's hack job on the SCOTUS, i.e. no judicial review, out of the water.

gopqueefingroom.com

war  posted on  2010-01-24   10:50:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Happy Quanzaa (#1)

You should call Mark Levin yourself and bring your points up w/ him.

Why would I want to do that?

We The People  posted on  2010-01-24   11:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: We The People (#3)

To prove you're right & put him in his place in front of more than the few people who will read your observations on LF.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2010-01-24   11:47:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Happy Quanzaa (#4)

To prove you're right & put him in his place in front of more than the few people who will read your observations on LF

Marl Levin will either not take the call, or will shut the caller off midsentence and call him/her names, both typical pubby Bushbot behaviors as demonstrated everyday on forums and talk shows. lolol

Plus he's a neocon's neocon.

mininggold  posted on  2010-01-24   11:54:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: We The People (#0)

Levin is not dumb.... he portrays himself as a constitutional lawyer. Plus as a lawyer he knows he can lie to achieve a goal and will be forgiven. The push is on for the US to try to take over the entire Middle East by a rabid, extremely tiny minority.

But even my naive Christian relatives are catching on to the con.

mininggold  posted on  2010-01-24   12:03:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Happy Quanzaa (#4)

To prove you're right & put him in his place in front of more than the few people who will read your observations on LF.

I already know I'm right. I don't feel the need to prove anything. I do look forward to the discussion though.

My goal is not to "put him (Levin) in his place in front of more than the few people who will read your (my) observations on LF" but to start discussion ON forums like LF (and LP) about the differences between conservative and neoconservative philosophies.

We The People  posted on  2010-01-24   12:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mininggold (#5)

Marl Levin will either not take the call, or will shut the caller off midsentence and call him/her names,

"get off the phone, you big dope!"

LOL!

We The People  posted on  2010-01-24   12:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: We The People (#8)

"get off the phone, you big dope!"

LOL!

I got tired of his immature name calling tirades and spinning the facts, and I guess lots of others did too because the local station terminated his program.

mininggold  posted on  2010-01-24   13:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mininggold (#5)

One of the things that he said when he hung up on me was "Satan can quote the bible too"...hilarious...I wish he'd post here...his meltdowns would rival Badeye's...

gopqueefingroom.com

war  posted on  2010-01-24   13:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war (#10)

One of the things that he said when he hung up on me was "Satan can quote the bible too"...hilarious...I wish he'd post here...his meltdowns would rival Badeye's...

He's a name caller on his FR threads too.

mininggold  posted on  2010-01-24   14:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: war (#10)

One of the things that he said when he hung up on me was "Satan can quote the bible too"...hilarious...I wish he'd post here...his meltdowns would rival Badeye's...

That reminds me of my fundy aunt calling me Satan when I refused to go to church camp with my cousins many, many moons ago. One of my "god fearing" cousins tried to hold up a gas station during that excursion. My aunt later borrowed a musical instrument from me and that same cousin hocked it for drugs. lol

mininggold  posted on  2010-01-24   14:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mininggold (#11)

Please tell me his handle is "The Great One"...

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war  posted on  2010-01-24   14:23:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Client 9 (#4) (Edited)

...in front of more than the few people who will read your observations on LF.

You can easily make it one less and no one would give a shit...

BTW, you know that I cannot post on LP anymore, right? So if someone would do a cowardly piece of shit thing like talk about me there I could not respond to that low life piece of fucking shit. Right?

gopqueefingroom.com

war  posted on  2010-01-24   14:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: war (#10)

One of the things that he said when he hung up on me was "Satan can quote the bible too".

It's interesting that a Jew would use the New Testament version of Satan against you. In Job, God seems to be pretty tight with Satan, giving him free reign to torment and torture Job to check his loyalty.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-01-24   14:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Bickus Dickus (#15) (Edited)

That God was such a card, eh? If it wasn't turning his loyal followers into a pillar of salt or making them kill a child he was just into fucking with them, eh?

I guess that Jesus is the Deistic equivalent of "No hard feelings, eh?"

gopqueefingroom.com

war  posted on  2010-01-24   14:28:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#16)

That God was such a card, eh? If it wasn't turning his loyal followers into a pillar of salt or making them kill a child he was just into fucking with them, eh?

What always has gotten me is the Jews appear to have gotten absolutely nothing out of the deal. God sides with their enemies all the time. When he isn't doing that he's telling them to go slaughter this people or that people and take everything they own.

For putting up with this, the Jews get ........ nothing. No afterlife, no peace on earth, nothing.

Why the hell they didn't go back to Egypt where life was good instead of wandering around the desert for 40 years has always mystified me.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-01-24   14:34:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: war (#10)

No meltdowns here Fraud, and nobody believes you ever got on the phone with Levin.

Badeye  posted on  2010-01-24   16:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Badeye (#18)

Is the public library open on Sundays?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-01-24   17:23:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: war (#14)

It's not my fault you can't post on LP, you're the one who called someone a pedophile with no evidence to back it up. Goldi said all you had to do was apologize to get back in, so apologize already and you can come back and defend your sorry self.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2010-01-24   18:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Badeye (#18)

Chuckles...you we're here 18 hours and you were whining about getting your sorry fucking ass booted. The fact that you use Goldi's real name tells everyone what a radioactive pieceof shit you are.

gopqueefingroom.com

war  posted on  2010-01-24   18:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Happy Quanzaa (#20)

Coward.

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war  posted on  2010-01-24   18:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: war (#22)

And as far as pedophiles, gay pedophiles at that, are concerned, you're the one who supports Barack H. Obama and his fisting freaks. You're the one who is displaying those tendencies, I don't see where you got the nerve to accuse someone else.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2010-01-24   18:44:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Happy Quanzaa (#23) (Edited)

Wha...huh? What is your fixation on Obama's sex life? Do your see yourself getting bent over by a black guy. I don't know who falls back on homo eroticism you or Felate-o-rator get yer ass plugged already and be done with it.

gopqueefingroom.com

war  posted on  2010-01-24   18:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#24)

You're the member of the Kevin Jennings & Frank Marshall Davis fan clubs, not me. You're the one who got kicked off LP for bringing up the the subject in the first place, now you want to accuse me just like you did that guy on LP? I know you libs think it's politically incorrect to profile pedophiles, but I see a pattern here. Have you ever considered the priesthood?

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2010-01-24   20:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: We The People (#0)

A conservative is someone who wants to preserve, maintain and protect the Constitution as it was written, including the Bill of Rights, who wants to preserve, maintain and protect the form of government established by our founding fathers as outlined in our founding documents.

Do conservatives want to keep negroes on the plantation?

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-01-24   20:30:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Happy Quanzaa (#25)

I cannot post on LP any more dude...I'm not going to do battle about there, here...pick another topic...

gopqueefingroom.com

war  posted on  2010-01-24   21:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: war (#13)

Please tell me his handle is "The Great One"...

holdonnow

mininggold  posted on  2010-01-24   21:59:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mininggold (#28)

Geezus what a fucking wit...no wonder badeye found a home there...

gopqueefingroom.com

war  posted on  2010-01-24   22:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Bickus Dickus (#17)

What always has gotten me is the Jews appear to have gotten absolutely nothing out of the deal. God sides with their enemies all the time. When he isn't doing that he's telling them to go slaughter this people or that people and take everything they own.

Jesus said the chosen people are the Christians, and unless the Jews change their ways......which hasn't yet happened in the last two thousand years....

mininggold  posted on  2010-01-24   22:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: mininggold (#30)

Jesus said the chosen people are the Christians, and unless the Jews change their ways.

What about all the Jews who lived long before anyone ever heard of Jesus?

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-01-24   22:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Bickus Dickus (#31)

What about all the Jews who lived long before anyone ever heard of Jesus?

Just more bad luck I guess.

mininggold  posted on  2010-01-24   22:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mininggold (#32)

Just more bad luck I guess.

Well, like war said, that God had a wicked sense of humor.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-01-24   22:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Bickus Dickus (#33)

Well, like war said, that God had a wicked sense of humor.

But they had chosen status up to the time Jesus was preaching so that probably helped a bit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-01-24   22:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: mininggold (#34)

But they had chosen status up to the time Jesus was preaching so that probably helped a bit.

And what did that chosen status get them besides pain, misery, and no shot at an afterlife?

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-01-24   22:58:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Bickus Dickus (#35)

And what did that chosen status get them besides pain, misery, and no shot at an afterlife?

A best selling book documenting their misery.

mininggold  posted on  2010-01-24   23:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: We The People (#0)

"IMO Levin is a neoconservative"

Why? Becuz he's Jewish?!!

Sheeesh...anybody who's listened to Mark Levin fer years and read his book knows Mark Levin is a genuine ReaganConservative.

That's good enuff fer...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-01-25   7:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mininggold (#5)

"Plus he's a neocon's neocon."

BULL $#!+ !! You have no clue about what yer talking about!! I lived up in DeeCee fer much of last year and listened to Mark Levin's radio show (6-9 M-F) regularly and I can assure you Levin is a genuine ReaganConservative.

Yer "neocon's neocon" assessment is KRAP...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-01-25   7:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mininggold (#6)

"The push is on for the US to try to take over the entire Middle East by a rabid, extremely tiny minority."

BWAHAHAHAHA!! Whatta MAROOON!!

Sheeesh...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-01-25   7:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Bickus Dickus (#17)

"Why the hell they didn't go back to Egypt where life was good..."

Hey Mr. Lickus, only a braindead RAT would agree that a slave's life is "good".

What is with y'all?!

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-01-25   7:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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