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International News Title: Anyone Buying This Venezuela Bullshit Is A Complete F***ing Moron #VenezuelaAidLive is trending on Twitter in the USA as I write this, forced to the forefront of public consciousness and into everyone’s eyeballs by a concert staged by billionaire plutocrat Richard Branson. Branson’s Virgin Group controls hundreds of companies and brings in some $21 billion annually, with Branson himself valued at around five billion dollars. The concert is pure narrative control operation, designed to advance the proven lie that the Venezuelan government is shutting out all humanitarian aid from its people, and the proven lie that it has blockaded a bridge to prevent the aid from getting through, both of which are also currently being promoted by American mainstream media despite being thoroughly disproven. In reality, the Venezuelan government has been taking in humanitarian aid from all around the world to help its people, just not from America’s regime change operation that is so blatant even NPR recognizes it, and the bridge Branson has been posing in front of for his “billionaire philanthropist” photo ops They’re lying to us about Venezuela. Anyone with access to alternative media has access to the fact that they’re lying to us about Venezuela. We know this for a fact. We also know for a fact that Venezuela has the largest proven oil reserves on planet Earth, and that in spite of all these appeals to the humanitarian impulses of the US empire the Trump administration is openly interested in controlling that oil. We also know for a fact that US interventionism in modern times is consistently disastrous, and consistently never truly about humanitarianism. We also know for a fact that PNAC neocon Elliott Abrams, who is spearheading this “humanitarian aid” initiative, has previously used humanitarian aid as a pretext for arming militia groups in Nicaragua. If you have access to alternative media, all of these facts are easily available to you. If all of these facts are easily available to you, and yet you still support the US government’s interventionism in Venezuela, you are a complete fucking moron. That’s really all I wanted to say here. I have less than zero respect for those who join with Donald Trump, John Bolton, Elliott Abrams, Benjamin Netanyahu, Jair Bolsonaro, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Fox News and MSNBC in manufacturing consent for this agenda, and I don’t care who gets their feelings hurt by my saying so. If you’ve been a longtime reader of mine and you still support Trump’s starvation sanctions, CIA ops, grooming and attempted installation of US vassal Juan Guaidó, and brazen propaganda war upon the minds of the unsuspecting US populace with the goal of toppling a sovereign nation’s government, then my writing hasn’t gotten through to you and you have gotten nothing out of it. I’ve interacted with so many Trump supporters since I started this gig who claim to be anti-interventionist and anti-neocon, yet once their president started ramping up yet another neocon regime change intervention in yet another resource-rich country just like Bush and Obama before him, they fell right in line just like Bush and Obama’s supporters did. Ask them why and they’ll mumble something inarticulate about the absence of US boots on the ground (a point Obama’s defenders also made about Libya and Syria) or about hating socialism, but in reality the reason they support Trump’s regime change interventionism in yet another oil-rich country is because they are foam-brained human livestock who believe whatever the leader of their tribe tells them to. Not all Trump voters have done this, but many of them have. For the most part those who continue to support this president are at best deadly silent on Venezuela, and are at worst actively cheering this bullshit on with everything they’ve got. I actually have more respect for the people who have always been plugged into the CIA/CNN narrative than I have for those who saw through it during Obama’s interventions but not during Trump’s. Someone who has always been plugged into the mainstream narratives on US regime change interventionism is like a guy with his head up his ass. Someone who saw through Obama’s depravity in Libya and Syria but fails to do the same with Venezuela is like a guy who pulled his head out of his ass, then soaked his hair with lube and willfully re-inserted it. There is no excuse for supporting this administration’s obvious lies and sociopathic interventionism in a sovereign nation. None. Wise the fuck up, people. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest The only problem with Venezuela is socialism. Which is controlled by Russia and China. If you are good with them controlling Venezuela you are nuts! Deal with the evil or die a slow death. Words are cheap life under socialism is even cheaper!!
#2. To: Deckard, Donalds Dream Students, invaders, *Border Invasion* (#0)
President Donnell's pendejos in Columbia trying to invade Venezuela. Paid agitators for the Deep State. Their "Dream" is to become illegal aliens in Venezuela. Yankee go home! ![]() #3. To: Deckard (#0) The Berniezuelans voted to have what's happening to them - socialism. They can either shoot the bus driver in the head or starve to death; either way I'm fine with it as they serve as an example to the rest of the world. Not a damn dime to people who make existentially-stupid decisions.
#4. To: EVERYONE (#0) You, Caitlin Johnstone, “say” it’s a “proven lie” that the Venezuelan government is shutting out all humanitarian aid from its people. Perhaps that is so but you on the other hand show absolutely NO proof that it’s a “PROVEN LIE.” You ask us not to believe what “they” say about Venezuela because you say “they’re lying to us about Venezuela.” Well, I will NOT believe you unless you post validated videos of convoys crossing the borders bringing in humanitarian aid to Venezuela, validated videos of ships unloading humanitarian aid at docks in Venezuela and validated videos of aircraft unloading humanitarian aid at the airports in Venezuela. Then and ONLY then will I believe YOU. You say: “In reality, the Venezuelan government has been taking in humanitarian aid from all around the world to help its people.” I say show the “reality” of this and PROVE your charge. You say: “Anyone with access to alternative media has access to the fact that they’re lying to us about Venezuela.” Since YOU have access to alternative media, then show us the links to prove “they’re lying to us about Venezuela.” Your links show us that Venezuela has the largest proven oil reserves on planet Earth. Okay, accept that as a fact, but that in no way shows that Venezuela is receiving humanitarian because of that. What is shown about Venezuela’’ oil is that it is grossly indebted to Russia and China for its current and future production. Russia has been a lender of last resort. In late 2017, Moscow bailed Venezuela out by restructuring more than $3 billion in sovereign debt, which allowed the Maduro government to meet its obligations to other creditors. Meanwhile, Russia’s state-backed oil giant, Rosneft, is one of Venezuela’s largest foreign backers, loaning it roughly $2.5 billion in recent years in exchange for future energy shipments. Rosneft also co-owns several oil and gas projects with PDVSA, Venezuela’s state energy company—which was just sanctioned by the United States— and it has a 49 percent stake in Citgo, PDVSA’s U.S. refining arm.Your bullshit link in no way PROVES your assertion that the “Trump administration is openly interested in controlling that oil.” Your other link to show that “Elliott Abrams, who is spearheading this “humanitarian aid” initiative, has previously used humanitarian aid as a pretext for arming militia groups in Nicaragua” only shows some guy on a blog making that CLAIM. That’s no proof of anything. You still say: “If you have access to alternative media, all of these facts are easily available to you. If all of these facts are easily available to you, and yet you still support the US government’s interventionism in Venezuela, you are a complete fucking moron.” I have access to alternative media and I cannot find the facts of which you, the author, allege that are “easily available” to support your charges. But then I am an old man with poor eyesight so maybe I am missing them and someone can point them out to me if they find support for the author’s claims.
#5. To: Deckard (#0) They’re lying to us about Venezuela. If one is going to make this type of claim, then it better be qualified objectively because anyone coming away with the message that everything is just poochy in Venezuela is going to write off this entire article as BS because they do know that thing are in chaos there. So they are lying about Maduro blocking aid coming into the country? Okay, maybe they are. But are they lying about the fact that the country is in dire need of aid? Here we have a country that, as claimed has all these wonderful natural resources, and it seems the author is implicitly agreeing that, in spite of that natural resource wealth, the country is suffering huge economic problems. Why is that? Could it be that Maduro is a lousy president who has instituted policies that have destroyed the economy? It's one thing to say that the US should not be trying to install a puppet president there -- something I wholeheartedly agree with. But quite another to give the impression that Maduro is doing a fine job.
#6. To: Gatlin, Pinguinite (#4) ![]() #7. To: Deckard, Fake News (#0) ![]() #8. To: Gatlin (#4) Your other link to show that “Elliott Abrams, who is spearheading this “humanitarian aid” initiative, has previously used humanitarian aid as a pretext for arming militia groups in Nicaragua” only shows some guy on a blog making that CLAIM. That’s no proof of anything.
The U.S.-Venezuela Aid Convoy Story Is Clearly Bogus, but No One Wants to Say It
Elliott Abrams—the current quarterback of this latest affair in Venezuela—used humanitarian aid shipments to smuggle weapons to the Nicaragua’s Contras in the ’80s. Ultimately, these shipments allow for massive military buildups, without anyone in the media or Congress asking too many questions. After all, what kind of monster is opposed to helping starving people? It’s impossible to know if the current shipments to Venezuela are being used to transport weapons, although Venezuelan authorities say they have intercepted American arms shipments. But given the history of the U.S. (to say nothing of Abrams’), and the fact that the Trump administration is openly calling for Maduro’s ouster while amassing forces along the Colombian border, it’s not exactly a long shot. Still, our political press dismisses the possibility as tin-foil hat stuff, at least in part because mocking wacky Latin American “conspiracy theories” is a mark of one’s seriousness in foreign policy circles. Elliott Abrams Admits His Guilt On 2 Counts in Contra Cover-Up Elliott Abrams, the former Assistant Secretary of State who was one of the Reagan Administration's fiercest advocates of armed support for the Nicaraguan rebels, pleaded guilty today to two misdemeanor counts of withholding information from Congress about secret efforts to aid the guerrillas. Mr. Abrams's guilty pleas and his promise to cooperate with Iran-contra prosecutors may open another avenue for investigators as they make what appears to be a final push to broaden their search for wrongdoing at the senior levels of the Reagan Administration. The independent prosecutor, Lawrence E. Walsh, was forced on Sept. 16 to drop all charges against a main figure in the case, Oliver L. North, but he has made some headway in pursuing efforts to conceal the affair at the Central Intelligence Agency. The Abrams investigation takes Mr. Walsh for the first time into the Reagan State Department. Uncertainty About Knowledge ![]() ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #9. To: Deckard (#8) ![]() #10. To: hondo68 (#6) It's a single video purporting to be from one supermarket in one place in Venezuela. That's fine to consider, but it in no way credibly speaks for the state of things in the entire country.
#11. To: Deckard (#0) Caitlin Johnstone Who is this commie puke? In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. #12. To: Deckard (#8) You need to read my post very carefully again and try, please try, to understand exactly what I stated. I stated: Your other link to show that “Elliott Abrams, who is spearheading this “humanitarian aid” initiative, has previously used humanitarian aid as a pretext for arming militia groups in Nicaragua” only shows some guy on a blog making that CLAIM. That’s no proof of anything.I specifically stated that HIS link only shows some guy on a blog making that CLAIM and that’s no proof of anything….meaning of course no PROOF of anything to do with current aid shipments to Venezuela. Did I specifically state that? Of course, I did. Go to his link [https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1094335402612310016] and what you will see there is a “twitter account” for Michael Tracey’s blog. He describes himself as a “roving journalist” whose stated aim “is to produce podcasts, videos, and other forms of journalism.” So, the author used some amateur want-to-be cub reporter who extracts two lines from the LA Times as his authority source to support his claim that: “They’re lying to us about Venezuela.” Again, I say “that’s no proof of anything” and agaom meaning there’s no proof “they’re lying to us.” Now you MUST ADMIT that’s no proof that “they’re lying to us” because the first line in the second paragraph of your links truthfully states: “It’s impossible to know if the current shipments to Venezuela are being used to transport weapons.” I stand by the statement in my post. I do however thank you for taking time to comment. BTW, you continue to post some really onerously written shitty nebulous articles.
#13. To: sneakypete (#11) (Edited) Caitlin Johnstone He said of himself that he is a “Rogue journalist, Bogan socialist, Anarcho- psychonaut, Guerrilla poet, Utopia prepper” And….WAIT FOR IT….”Top writer in Government, Politics, Poetry.” Take you pick of any or all to answer your question. In any case, he is Deckard’s new “authority poster boy” for his source of information.
#14. To: Deckard (#13) Do you get the feeling yet that you wished you had never posted this article? One would hope that you would now see that and understand why.
#15. To: Gatlin (#14) (Edited) Do you get the feeling yet that you wished you had never posted this article? Not at all - your rabid response to this article has revealed the true nature of your ignorance of history and your unfettered praise of admitted criminal Elliott Abrams. Drain the swamp my ass! Trump is still neck deep in it. The response by you and others of your warmongering ilk to articles such as this one only reinforce my belief that Trump supporters are cultists. ![]() ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #16. To: Deckard (#8) I have taken time to read the information in your second link. I wish for you to tell me what anything Elliott Abrams did in the past PROVES “they’re lying to us about Venezuela” as your article CHARGES. I am still looking for proof to substantiate that charge. Any more links, with positive proof of course?
#17. To: Deckard, hondo68, A K A Stone (#15) Do you get the feeling yet that you wished you had never posted this article? I simply couldn't read any further. Maybe I can after I am able to stop laughing.
#18. To: Gatlin (#16) (Edited) I wish for you to tell me what anything Elliott Abrams did in the past PROVES “they’re lying to us about Venezuela” as your article CHARGES. He's still a scumbag. You Really think this warmongering prick is going to change over the years? Oh - the government always lies anytime they want to invade another country. See also: Iran, Afghanistan, Viet Nam, etc.. ![]() ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #19. To: Deckard (#15) Okay, I have regained my composure.
The response by you and others of your warmongering ilk to articles such as this one only reinforce my belief that Trump supporters are cultists.Okay, I get it. You maintain the idiosyncratic belief and impression that you firmly maintain despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rationally argued truth. Oh what a burden of delusion you must carry with you in life.
#20. To: Gatlin (#19) (Edited) Let me make myself clear - humanitarian aid to Venezuela is fine and should be encouraged. A military coup is another thing altogether. And that is exactly what is happening here. The appointment of Abrams is a prime indicator. I have less than zero respect for those who join with Donald Trump, John Bolton, Elliott Abrams, Benjamin Netanyahu, Jair Bolsonaro, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, MSNBC... Trump, Bolton, Biden, Pelosi and MSNBC - what a cabal! ![]() ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #21. To: Deckard (#18) He's [Elliott Abrams] still a scumbag.No one I see has argued that he was not. But his character and reputation is not what we are discussing here. We are searching for proof to the charge that you support that “they’re lying to us about Venezuela.” Do you have any? You Really think this warmongering prick is going to change over the years?What I think about Elliott Abrams is immaterial and not relevant to the point at hand. The point at hand is that you think “they’re lying to us” and you can provide no proof of that. Oh - the government always lies anytime they want to invade another country.Now aren’t you just the cat’s meow? While like in the legal tort of abuse of process, the elements of your charge included intentionally and maliciously pursuing a thesis without proof and I must entirely dismiss it as malicious prosecution.
#22. To: Gatlin (#21) Oh - the government always lies anytime they want to invade another country. Plenty of proof that fed.gov lies. They do it all the time. True believers and cultists (like you for instance) believe otherwise. ![]() ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #23. To: Deckard (#20) (Edited) Let me make myself clear -Oh God…dear God, please….please do. - humanitarian aid to Venezuela is fine and should be encouraged.That’s a sensible statement and you are making yourself clear so far. A military coup is another thing altogether. And that is exactly what is happening here. Searching back through history we find that Napoleon Bonaparte used his military to overthrow the five-member Directory that ruled France. I will not bore you ny explaining the actions involving Francisco Franco, Muammar al-Qaddafi, Idi Amin and ugusto Pinochet but I am pretty safe in saying these are the 5 famous coups in history. The appointment of Abrams is a prime indicator.Indicator that “they’re lying to us?” The discussion here is all about lying to us….not Abrams. I have less than zero respect for those who join with Donald Trump, John Bolton, Elliott Abrams, Benjamin Netanyahu, Jair Bolsonaro, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, MSNBC...Hey, I hate to shock you sport. But I think it is safe for me to say that no one GIVES A SHIT about whom you do or do not have respect for. Trump, Bolton, Biden, Pelosi and MSNBC - what a cabal!You really are going off the deep end to charge that these folks are “a secret political clique or faction.” You obviously do not know that is the definition of a cabal.
#24. To: Deckard (#22) Plenty of proof that fed.gov lies.All you have been asked to do is to prove the charge that “they’re lying to us about Venezuela” and you can not. True believers [….] (like you for instance) believe otherwise.True believers like me believe the truth. You show me TRUTH that “they’re lying to us about Venezuela” and I will believe it. Fair enough?
#25. To: Deckard (#24) Looks like we are about to wind down here so in closing I will say once again: You continue to post some really onerously written shitty nebulous articles.
#26. To: Deckard (#15) you and others of your warmongering ilk lol Trump has brought home more American military personnel from war zones than ANYONE you’ve voted for over the last 4 presidential elections. Shut your Hanoi Jane shit flapper, snowflake I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #27. To: Gatlin, Trumpanista Guerilla leader, Deckard (#23) join with Donald Trump, John Bolton, Elliott Abrams, Benjamin Netanyahu, Jair Bolsonaro, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, MSNBC... All that Gatlin and his Trumpanista Gorilla forces have are lies and a pile of burnt up USAID, extra crispy. Trumpanista Gorillas agitating for Regime Change. ![]() #28. To: hondo68 (#27) How many American soldiers has Gay Johnson or Ronny Paultard brought home from a war zone, by their order? Please list soldier names I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #29. To: Deckard (#0) Seriously? I have to agree with Gatlin on this one. Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! #30. To: hondo68 (#6) Spanish I snagged this from people posting about the video. This guy is a socialist and admits the products/food can not be bought by the average person. This is special class supper rich people ie socialist/communist asshats. Stop pushing commie propaganda!!!!!!
#31. To: All (#30) Sidney Blumenthal, a writer who was later an aide to President Bill Clinton and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The guy "Max Blumenthal" punked you! He is a Clinton bitch. He is Sids son!
#32. To: Justified (#30) Both Dicktard and Hondope plaster libtard propaganda, because Paultards and libtards have much in common I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #33. To: GrandIsland, Trumpanista Gorilla, hard to find good help, these days (#32) CNW @ConflictsW An idiot protestor torched the USAID truck on the bridge. Trumpanista Gorillas are having problems with their Regime Change op. ![]() #34. To: GrandIsland (#32) They have been watching too much of the Rt Tv(Russian Tv propaganda). They can not tell the difference between reality and propaganda that gives them the story they want. hmm, that sounds like other people I know. Socialist!
#35. To: hondo68, GrandIsland (#33) An idiot protestor torched the USAID truck on the bridge. Exactly how did you verify it was indeed a protestor who torched the USAID truck on the bridge. Show us the confirmation. In this day and time with all the “fake news” how do you know this is even an actual photograph and not something photo shopped by an idiot who calls himself CNW @ConflictsW. And tells us please, since you use him as an absolute trustworthy news authority, exactly who is CNW @ConflictsW and what are his credentials.
Trumpanista Gorillas are having problems with their Regime Change op. It is obvious to everyone with intelligence and uses critical thinking that you have an extreme problem verifying the truth before you so quickly accept what may be fake news planted propaganda.
#36. To: Gatlin (#13)
He said of himself that he is a “Rogue journalist, Bogan socialist, Anarcho- psychonaut, Guerrilla poet, Utopia prepper” Caitlin Johnstone is an Australian woman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0CWAojhXQk
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#37. To: nolu chan (#36) While men rape, abortion will exist. While men expect sex, abortion will exist. While men neg, guilt, harass and feel entitled to sex, abortion will exist. While all our media, advertising and culture demands that young women think of themselves as sexually available from very young, abortions will exist. Men have all the control in this area. You stop being such horrible, lecherous, creepy, entitled arseholes who just wants to rack up notches on the bed, and abortions will stop. You have to ask who the hell are these girls dating and why don't they just find a better man to date???????
#38. To: nolu chan (#36) And Deckard went to her to use as a trusted news source. That figures … She said that: Anyone Buying This Venezuela Bullshit Is A Complete F***ing Moron At least she got half of that right. Because anyone reading and believing her shit is a complete fucking Moron. You reading this Deckard …
#39. To: Gatlin (#35) Show us the confirmation HAAAAAAAAA Silly you, Paultards are big on fake news (aka yella) and microscopic on provable facts. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #40. To: Gatlin (#13) Caitlin Johnstone I pick,"Fruit Fly". In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. #41. To: sneakypete (#40) I found out later from nolu chan that “he” is actually a “she.” An Australian she ...
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