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U.S. Constitution Title: Students Make A Video Depicting A School Shooting; Sheriff Decides Everyone Needs To Have Their Rights Violated from the if-he's-lucky,-he'll-only-face-one-lawsuit deptHeightened sensitivities and a law enforcement track record of overreaction has prompted a New York Sheriff's Office into actions that will probably result in at least one civil rights lawsuit. When students of a New York school decided to create a couple of videos and post them to Instagram, the Sheriff felt compelled to violate the students' Fourth Amendment rights after disregarding their First Amendment rights.
Lots of movies, books, TV shows, and videogames contain "graphic and horrifying" content. Some even include "racist" dialogue, just as this video did. At no point did any of the participants mention a school, mention an intent to perform these acts at a school, or even tag other students/schools in the posting. It was simply a dramatization of events that happen far too often in this country. The videos were noticed by a student of the school the three arrested students attended. No one's faulting the school for handing over the videos to law enforcement, but the sheriff's office should have recognized the students were engaging in protected speech, not issuing terroristic threats. A simple conversation about why the videos might be disturbing to others should have been the end of it. Instead, there are now three arrests and a bunch of civil rights lawyers pointing out exactly why these arrests should not have occurred.
Content disturbing to others is present in a lot of content. Just because this dramatization happened to be produced by students and distributed by Instagram doesn't somehow entitle it to less First Amendment protection than a motion picture released by a major studio. Just because the participants happened to be school students doesn't mean their speech is less protected than someone with a multi-million dollar budget. Sheriff Craig Apple's speech -- as moronic as it is -- is also protected by the same First Amendment he won't extend to these students.
Sheriff Apple is free to hate the expressive speech. But he's not free to arrest people for speech he doesn't like. And all the "but what if a shooting actually happened?" excuses don't make this any less of a compound civil rights violation. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest "At no point did any of the participants mention a school, mention an intent to perform these acts at a school, or even tag other students/schools in the posting." From the Associated Press: "In one video, the “shooter” says “I’ve always hated school” before pretending to fire a toy gun at a boy sitting on the couch and a girl writhing on the floor."
#2. To: misterwhite (#1) "In one video, the “shooter” says “I’ve always hated school” before pretending to fire a toy gun at a boy sitting on the couch and a girl writhing on the floor." Oh, he mentioned the word "school"? Pretty lame, even for you bobby boy. He didn't mention a particular school, did he now? ![]() ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #3. To: Deckard (#2) He didn't mention a particular school, did he now? Maybe we should wait until he shoots up a school, huh? Then you could get on your high horse and blame the authorities for not doing something when he made these remarks. No matter how this goes down you get to engage in your favorite activity -- blaming everyone but the guilty.
#4. To: misterwhite (#3) blame the authorities for not doing something when he made these remarks. Oooh - he made some "remarks"? Crawl back under your bed and hide bobby. ![]() ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #5. To: Deckard (#4) Oooh - he made some "remarks"? "Remarks" that you would have pounced on as gospel had they shot up the school. So, yeah.
#6. To: misterwhite (#5) "Remarks" that you would have pounced on as gospel had they shot up the school Seems to me you're the one pissing his diaper with fear because some goofy kid made a "remark" that didn't threaten anyone. ![]() ![]() Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. #7. To: Deckard (#6) Seems to me you're the one pissing his diaper with fear because some goofy kid made a "remark" that didn't threaten anyone. Nope. Just supporting his arrest.
#8. To: Deckard (#2) The defendants will have an opportunity to have a pre-lim to determine if LE had enough probable cause to have made the arrest. Then the defendants will have an opportunity to have a trial by a jury of their PEERS... if a pre-lim determines enough probable cause. THEN if the defendants are found guilty, they will have ample opportunities to file motions all the way up to the USSC to get their convictions overturned on the basis of “1st & 4th” amendment violations. So shut your fucking mouth. You aren’t a legal or constitutional authority. You are simply an online anarchist opinionated asshole... aka little people. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #9. To: GrandIsland (#8) Deckard does tend to get ahead of himself -- he looks at an arrest as tantamount to life imprisonment -- skipping the 20 steps in between.
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