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Title: Mueller Exposes Putin's Hold Over Trump
Source: Forbes
URL Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/steved ... -hold-over-trump/#6ab8690b48f6
Published: Dec 16, 2018
Author: Steve Denning
Post Date: 2018-12-21 10:24:57 by Jameson
Keywords: Lock him up, Lock him up, Lock him up!!
Views: 1581
Comments: 21

On Friday December 7, the Special Counsel’s Office headed by Robert Mueller for the first time outlined in a court filing the grand narrative of the Russia Probe. The court filing revealed what many had long suspected, that Trump and his family had used, or tried to use, his presidential candidacy, and then his presidency, to enhance their own wealth.

We also learned finally what hold Russian President Vladimir Putin has over Trump. It’s not as some suspected, a money laundering episode from more than a decade ago. It was something that happened in real time during the presidential election itself. Thus, Trump himself repeatedly stated since entering the presidential race in June 2015 that he had no business in Russia and no interactions with representatives of Russia. It now turns out that Putin knew what the American people didn’t, namely that Donald Trump was throughout the 2016 presidential primary campaign secretly negotiating to build a huge and lucrative hotel in Moscow, which required the personal support of Vladimir Putin. The fact that Putin knew about Trump’s secret dealings, while the American people didn’t, meant that if Trump didn’t do what Russia wanted, Russia could expose Trump’s lies and so bring him down.

The filing revealed that Mueller’s Office is now investigating the hypothesis that Donald Trump, his campaign, his organization and his associates participated in a massive election fraud, through five interlocking conspiracies—arguably the worst set of crimes against the United States in its history.

Where’s The Crime That Trump Supposedly Committed?

Trump’s defenders—and Donald Trump himself—contend that the Special Counsel has yet to allege, let alone prove, that Trump committed a crime in the sense that “Trump’s fingerprints are on the murder weapon.” There’s no “smoking gun.”

What these contentions overlook is the law of criminal conspiracy.

Guilt in a criminal conspiracy doesn’t require that every participant in the conspiracy commit a criminal act. All it requires is that there is an agreement by two or more people to commit a criminal act and that at least one of the co- conspirators commits an overt act towards the accomplishment of the conspiracy. Nor is it necessary that the goal of the conspiracy has been successfully accomplished: it is enough if at least one overt step has been taken towards implementing the conspiracy. Nor is it necessary that co-conspirators know the identity of the other members of the conspiracy. Nor does the conspiracy have to be planned in secret.

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Poster Comment:

A very clear explanation as to what the author believes is going on in the Office of the Special Council.

Worth the read!

DS45 lifting of Russian sanctions,
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/politics/sanctions-oleg-deripaska-russia- trump.html

and handing over Syria to Putin,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/trumps-surprise-syria- pullout-is-a-giant-christmas-gift-to-our-enemies/2018/12/19/c032c7e4-03ae-11e9- b6a9-0aa5c2fcc9e4_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c92f8adc0636

Can now be seen in a different light.....

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#1. To: Jameson (#0)

No offense, but this is some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever read.

We The People  posted on  2018-12-21   10:40:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: We The People (#1)

No offense, but this is some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever read.

How so?

I think the author makes a very compelling case. What do you think he's gotten wrong?

Jameson  posted on  2018-12-21   10:42:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jameson (#2)

How so?

First of all... where is the evidence? “Mueller said it” is not evidence.

Secondly, “arguably the worst set of crimes against the United States in its history.”? I don’t think so.

Even if it’s true, when I’ve yet to see ANY evidence that it is, where is the crime? The man is a global real estate developer. It’s literally what he does for a living.

I didn’t vote for Trump and I’m not even a fan of his so I have no dog in this fight, but I just don’t see a crime. Let alone the worst set of crimes against the US in its history.

We The People  posted on  2018-12-21   14:22:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: We The People (#9)

I just don’t see a crime.

Stay tuned....

Jameson  posted on  2018-12-21   14:35:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jameson (#10)

Show me one bit of credible evidence and I’m on your side.

But listen, you know both party’s are corrupt as hell. Our entire government makes the mafia look like street hoods. If Hillary can get away with her server scandal, taking “donations” to her foundation from Russians while selling them 20% of our uranium, etc. do you honestly think they’re going to prosecute Trump? Or even impeach him?

This dog and pony show is to keep you and I occupied, arguing with each other.

We The People  posted on  2018-12-21   15:02:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: We The People (#11)

Show me one bit of credible evidence and I’m on your side.

The OSC has been leak-proof as they build their case which according to Business Insider "Mueller's investigation bears the hallmark of an organized crime case"

https://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-investigation-organized-crime-white- collar-similarities-russia-2018-9

So we'll all just be forced to wait.....

"...you know both party’s are corrupt as hell..."

While I'm not quite as cynical as you seem to be, I agree the influence of massive lobbying dollars has certainly corrupted all 3 branches of government.

"...If Hillary can get away with..."

The Uranium One deal Was being investigated by HOR Republicans in 2017. I've not been able to find the outcome of that investigation, but I'd gamble that had they actually found anything criminal, we'd have heard about it by now.

House Republicans investigating Obama-era uranium deal
https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics/house-investigating-uranium- deal/index.html

As for prosecuting DS45......my personal opinion is that he will be convinced to leave office ahead of schedule..........

Happy Holidays

Jameson  posted on  2018-12-21   15:46:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jameson (#12)

Mueller couldn’t investigate a parking violation. He ain’t no cop. He’s a bias scumbag department head that won’t ever get the smell of O’bunghole’s Kenyan dong, off his breath.

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-12-21   17:03:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: GrandIsland (#13)

Mueller couldn’t investigate a parking violation. He ain’t no cop. He’s a bias scumbag department head that won’t ever get the smell of O’bunghole’s Kenyan dong, off his breath.

Try and look at the bright side ... Donald Trump is "squeaky kleen."

buckeroo  posted on  2018-12-31   13:12:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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