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U.S. Constitution Title: Heil Fuhrer Trump! So Trump is all set to do his ban on “bump stocks.” Let’s look at a few aspects of this: 1 – This is not being done by legislation. It is being unilaterally done, dictator-style, by just declaring bump-stocks to fit within the definition of what is already “illegal,” in direct contrast to the DOJ’s own prior interpretation of the law, going back for decades. In other words, Trump is declaring that what the ATF and DOJ thought the law meant before wasn’t authoritarian and controlling enough. (Incidentally, he could just as easily do the same thing with tri-burst trigger assemblies next.) 2 – Unlike the misnamed 1994 “assaults weapons ban,” this dictatorial decree prohibits the possession of things that lots of people already legally own, and requires people to destroy or surrender them. 3 – This is a violation of the Fifth Amendment, in that in requires people to destroy or hand over their own previously “legal” property, without compensation. 4 – This is a violation of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, since nothing in the Constitution gives the federal government any jurisdiction over such matters. (Of course, that is true of most federal “legislation,” but Trump is continuing the totalitarian practice of pretending the state can do whatever the hell it wants.) 5 – This is a violation of the Second Amendment, as it constitutes federal legislation restricting the ability of the people to keep and bear arms. (Again, this certainly isn’t the first example of that, but Trump is continuing the authoritarian bullshit.) If your response to all of this is, “4D chess,” you’re an idiot. In fact, if you make excuses for it at all, you are a boot-licking pawn of a lawless, dictatorial megalomaniac, and just as bad as the twits who mindless cheered for Chairman Obama’s authoritarian crap. By the way, this is worse “gun control” than any Democrat President or Congress has passed in my lifetime, because it prohibits the possession of already-existing private property. So let’s see how many proud Trumpites have excuses for this. Poster Comment: If your response to all of this is, “4D chess,” you’re an idiot. In fact, if you make excuses for it at all, you are a boot-licking pawn of a lawless, dictatorial megalomaniac, and just as bad as the twits who mindless cheered for Chairman Obama’s authoritarian crap. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 44. this is worse “gun control” than has passed in my lifetime, because it prohibits the possession of already-existing private property. Now's your chance.....
All of you 2nd Amendment Republicans....
All of you who believe that the Bill of Rights is sacred......
All of you who know, in your heart, that this infringement is simply wrong....
You were uncomfortable when you heard this: "I like taking guns away early," "Take the guns first, go through due process second."
Why did you let it go?
Now, this.
Now is your opportunity.
Stand up for yourselves, stand up for America, stand up for Americans.
It's time for 45 to go.
You know it.
What are you prepared to do?
I, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
It's time for 45 to go.
Contact your representatives - demand that they do their duty and remove this individual - before it's too late.
#11. To: Jameson (#5) All of you who believe that the Bill of Rights is sacred...... Your voice should be terminated on this site. It’s bad enough I’ve gotta be shoveled your shit all over Hollyweird and MSM... but here, your filthy opinions should be shunned.
#21. To: GrandIsland (#11) Now's your chance.....
I'm unwilling to let this attack on our constitutional rights to go unchecked... So what's it going to be, smokey?
#22. To: Jameson (#21) I'm unwilling to let this attack on our constitutional rights to go unchecked.. Bump stocks aren’t constitutionally protected, cunt.
#23. To: GrandIsland (#22) Bump stocks aren’t constitutionally protected All arms are constitutionally protected, dumbass. Pre-existing God given natural rights. Read the dang 2nd amendment!
#24. To: hondo68 (#23) A bump stock isn’t an “arm” fuck stain.
#25. To: GrandIsland (#24) What if they make a gun with a built in bump stock?
#26. To: A K A Stone (#25) What if they make a gun with a built in bump stock? Firearms manufacturers don’t make and install them for a reason... then the weapon would not qualify as semi-automatic. Definition ~ weapons which fire one shot per single pull of the trigger. A single trigger pull is defined by rear pressure on the trigger and forward motion on your trigger finger to re-set the trigger. When a shooter uses a bump stock... he essentially pulls the trigger back and holds his finger in that position as the weapon continually fires. Sounds kinda like auto fire? Look, trying to defend this shit will cause our constitutional rights to erode FASTER. If we don’t pick and choose our battles smart, the snowflakes will eventually win. And in the end, posters like Jameson (like the asshole snowflake populace) have gun owners like you and I, DIVIDING over stupid shit like a bump stock law. He’s dangerous to even allow on this site.
#28. To: GrandIsland, Hogg Bros (#26) Molon Labe, Snowflake!
#29. To: hondo68 (#28) I disagree with you. Here is why: fully automatic machine guns are of little use in civilian life with the singular exception of for mass terrorist acts. Case in point, A gunman, identified as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, fires from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino on a crowd of 30,000 gathered on the Las Vegas Strip for the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival. At least 58 people were killed and more than 515 injured. Police believe the gunman killed himself. My wife's boss and his wife attended that concert. They were fortunate as there was no direct issue other than the mass mayhem and confusion of the evening. "bump stocks" are designed to mimic fully automatic firearms. If you want a full automatic machine gun, go out and purchase one. There is no credible evidence that "bump stocks" add safety, protection or any other social value.
#30. To: buckeroo (#29) (Edited) There is no credible evidence that "bump stocks" add safety, protection or any other social value. Irrelevant. The God given natural right to keep and bear arms (security of a free state/self determination) is constitutionally protected. You don't get to decide which arms a person may choose to accomplish that task, and neither does government. Not in the enumerated privileges permitted to government. Read the contract, aka The US Constitution.
#31. To: hondo68 (#30) The God given natural right to keep and bear arms (security of a free state/self determination) is constitutionally protected. True. But bump stocks serve no purpose. Go get a full automatic machine gun as opposed to modifying semi-automatic firearms.
You don't get to decide which arms a person may choose to accomplish that task, and neither does government. Not in the enumerated privileges permitted to government. A "bump stock" is not a firearm. It is a method to alter or change the class of firearm capability. Who needs a Paddock on the block?
#33. To: buckeroo (#31) A "bump stock" is not a firearm. Correct. Arguing with Hondope is like voting for Ron Paultard... a waste of tyme.
#42. To: GrandIsland, Hondo68, Deckard (#33) Arguing with Hondope is like voting for Ron Paultard... a waste of tyme. Often, you are a foul player in commentary, GI. As a principled politician, Ron Paul was near ideal as a US Presidential candidate. I voted for Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012. Of course, the GOP lost both elections with John McCain and Sarah Palin (2008) and then Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan (2012). The two sequential, poor choices by the überGOP election committee boosted those two elections into failure mode for the GOP and won 0bama as your POTUS. Congratulations! The GOP is more often a waste of "tyme" than the Libertarian Party candidates. I vote LP at every opportunity as I have a conscience focused on truth not POWER.
#43. To: buckeroo (#42) The GOP is more often a waste of "tyme" than the Libertarian Party candidates And that’s based on what, the how many LIBERALterians that won a presidential seat? lol
#44. To: GrandIsland (#43) And that’s based on what, the how many LIBERALterians that won a presidential seat? Phrase your opinion anyway you want, but the GOP has dragged down the US until Trump was elected. I didn't vote for Trump. I thought his promises were continued BS akin to all politicians attempting to become POTUS. I admit failure on this singular perspective. Normally, choosing a Libertarian candidate will get gold for the economy.
Replies to Comment # 44. Normally, choosing a Libertarian candidate will get gold for the economy. And that little bit of wisdom is based on what? Name ONE LIBERALterian that caused an improvement upon our economy.
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