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Title: Decorated Silver Star Veteran, POW Sentenced to 7 Years for a Gun He Bought 40 Years Ago
Source: Free Thought Project
URL Source: https://thefreethoughtproject.com/d ... -a-gun-he-bought-40-years-ago/
Published: Oct 19, 2018
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2018-10-19 11:26:42 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 7666
Comments: 45

Plano, TX — Alfred Pick served his country honorably. After going on over 100 combat missions in Vietnam, Pick was given the military’s third highest honor, the Silver Star. He was also captured and did time as a POW. Now, after escaping a cage in Vietnam 40 years ago, the country he laid down his life for is throwing him back in a cage—over a decades-old gun.

At a gun show 40 years ago, Pick bought the rare M-14 rifle, similar to the one he used in Vietnam while he served in the Army. He put this rifle in a case, along with 14 other extremely rare guns and proudly displayed them in his Texas home for four decades.

“This gun was very rare at that time it was rare to see one so he instantly had a connection to it,” said Pick’s attorney Ryne Sandel. “Over the course of his life he and his wife and collected about 14 weapons, many of them were collectors items.”

As CBS DFW reports, Pick lived in Plano’s Air Park neighborhood along with other pilots who enjoy a runway right outside their homes. The 70-year-old Vietnam veteran even served as the president of his homeowners association. Thus, when the ATF raided his home last year it came as a shock to friends like Mark Shackelford.

“He’s always been a good person to me,” Shackelford said.

When federal agents raided this American Hero’s home, they were looking for and seized the rare M-14 rifle that pick bought in the early 80’s at a Fort Worth gun show.

“He was a gun collector and it was probably the piece de resistance of his collection… he had shown it to me. I’ve never seen it taken it out of the case,” said Shackelford.

Instead of simply telling Pick that his rifle was “illegal” and asking him to modify or remove the firing pin to make it inoperable, masked agents of the state—armed with automatic rifles—ransacked the recent widower’s home, kidnapped, and caged him.

Because the raid and arrest came just two weeks after his wife died of cancer, agents also found her cannabis that she used as medicine. This was tacked on as another charge.

This week, for having a rifle similar to the one he actually “defended your freedoms” with in Vietnam, Pick was sentenced to 87 months in prison by a judge. This, after he’d already spent the last year in a cage.

“He’s a really remarkable man to be honest,” said Sandel. “I do think it’s unfortunate for a gentleman like Alfred that’s had such an outstanding life to have it mired at the age of 70 by this federal felony.”

In the land of the free, you can be issued a rifle to kill people in foreign countries at the direction of American politicians. However, if you come home and purchase this same gun to display to your friends and family, you will be sentenced to die in prison. And we still have the audacity to call this “freedom.”

“The man is a Silver Star winner, he saved lives, he took care of his wife, he’s been in custody for a year, I would think that when a man turned 70 and is an American hero you don’t destroy the rest of his life for one mistake,” said Shackelford.

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#8. To: Deckard, misterwhite, Stoner (#0)

http://www.dpaa.mil/Our-Missing/Vietnam-War/Vietnam-War-POW-MIA-List/

Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency Fulfilling Our Nation's Promise

http://www.dpaa.mil/portals/85/Documents/VietnamAccounting/pmsea_acc_p_name_20181019.pdf

U.S. Accounted-For from the Vietnam War
Prisoners of War, Escapees, Returnees and Remains Recovered
Sorted by Name
Total Accounted: 1,843

No Alfred Pick, or anyone named Pick, is listed. DPAA is an official military source.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-10-19   18:49:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: nolu chan (#8)

No Alfred Pick, or anyone named Pick, is listed. DPAA is an official military source.

I appreciate your due diligence.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-10-19   21:17:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Fred Mertz, misterwhite, Boris Y, GrandIsland (#10)

I appreciate your due diligence.

Thank you.

Pick's purported Silver Star citation states it is for action of 14 May 1968 by "Second Lieutenant (Field Artillery) Alfred Pick (ASN: 0-5428223), United States Army...." The purported citation is not from the National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) in St. Louis (Overland) MO, but attributed to some file in the National Archives in College Park, MD as published by an unofficial source. I believe this may well be another exploit of the July 12, 1973 fire at the NPRC in St. Louis which destroyed about 18 million Official Military Personnel Files (OMPF).

The claimed Army Service Number appears bogus for the Vietnam era. (Wikipedia/

NPRC states, "No duplicate copies of these records were ever maintained, nor were microfilm copies produced. Neither were any indexes created prior to the fire. In addition, millions of documents had been lent to the Department of Veterans Affairs before the fire occurred. Therefore, a complete listing of the records that were lost is not available. However, in the years following the fire, the NPRC collected numerous series of records (referred to as Auxiliary Records) that are used to reconstruct basic service information."

Pick's LinkIn page states, "On May 19, 1968, 19 year old Second Lieutenant Alfred Pick assigned as Forward Observer attached to infantry company with 199th Light Infantry Brigade...."

Pick's date of birth was April 27, 1948 in Oceanside, New York. By my reckoning, Pick turned 20 on April 27, 1968, and was 20 on May 19, 1968.

I was in the Navy. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe you have stated you were in the Army back when. In your experience, did you ever come across a 19/20-year 2nd Louie in the Army? I never heard of a 19/20-year old Ensign in the Navy. It sort of presupposes that somebody got a college degree at 19 and quickly signed up for the Army.

Pick's LinkedIn page also claims an Air Medal for March 1969 (at 20 years old), "Awarded for over 100 aerial combat assaults and direction of numerous aerial attacks on enemy positions. Shot down during combat operations." This sort of presupposes Pick somehow went from a forward observer in the infantry to doing whatever he was doing 10 months later to be awarded an Air Medal for 100 aerial combat assaults. It does not state, but infers he was flying the plane.

Wikipedia says, "The medal is awarded to anyone who, while serving in any capacity in or with the Armed Forces of the United States, distinguishes himself or herself by meritorious achievement while participating in aerial flight."

I'm ex-Navy and don't know much about infantry or Army, but I just don't see how an infantryman would distinguish himself while participating in aerial flight. These two claims, when considered together, make no sense to me. Does it make sense to someone with Army experience?

nolu chan  posted on  2018-10-20   15:25:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: nolu chan (#15)

I was in the Navy. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe you have stated you were in the Army back when. In your experience, did you ever come across a 19/20-year 2nd Louie in the Army?

I can't speak for them,but I sure did. I was even offered the chance to be one myself,but turned it down.

I don't know about the other branches,but the army had a OCS program that would turn enlisted swine into officers and gentlemen in 90 days. Graduates would receive a RESERVE commission as a 2nd Lt in whatever career field they chose or the army chose upon successful completion of the program instead of the Regular Army Commission that West Point grads and people with battlefield commissions received. MOST that decided to stay in had that converted to a Regular Army Commission after being promoted to 0-3,but I never heard of one going higher than Full Bird. Not even ones that received battlefield commissions due to getting a Medal of Honor,like Ola Mize or Bob Howard. If you wanted a star,you had to be a ring-knocker.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-10-20   16:48:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: sneakypete (#21)

I don't know about the other branches,but the army had a OCS program that would turn enlisted swine into officers and gentlemen in 90 days.

The Navy had 90-day knife and fork school, but I never knew of a 19-year old going to it. Admittance direct from civilian life required a four year college degree.

Current Army requirements appear to require a 4-year college degree. In the Vietnam era, I am sure that was not the case. Then and now, the Navy LDO program allowed enlisted to become officers, but the time in grade E-6 requirement made doing it by age 19 impossible.

https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/current-and-prior-service/advance-your-career/officer-candidate-school.html

Currently, the Army requirements include:

In order to qualify for Officer Candidate School as an active duty, enlisted Soldier, you must be:

  • A college graduate with at least a four-year degree
  • Must not have more than six years of Active Federal Service (AFS) upon arrival at OCS
  • Between 19 and 32 years old (you must enter active duty or ship to training by your 33rd birthday and accept commission prior to age 34)
  • Eligible for a secret security clearance

In order to qualify for Officer Candidate School as a civilian, you must be:

  • A U.S. citizen
  • A college graduate with at least a four-year degree
  • Between 19 and 32 years old (you must enter active duty or ship to training by your 33rd birthday and accept commission prior to age 34)
  • Eligible for a secret security clearance

In order to qualify for Officer Candidate School as a member of the U.S. Army Reserve, you must be:

  • A college graduate with at least a four-year degree
  • Must not have more than six years of Active Federal Service (AFS) upon arrival at OCS
  • Between 18 and 32 years old (you must enter active duty or ship to training by your 33rd birthday and accept commission prior to age 34)
  • Eligible for a secret security clearance

The Navy has a Limited Duty Officer (LDO) program that turns enlisted into officers, and does not require a 4-year college degree. The advancement path is capped at Captain (O-6). I had a good enlisted friend who asked me to assist with his LDO brag letter. I pulled an all nighter and wrote what proved to be a successful letter. Command suspected he got help from a Master Chief (E-9) and never found out I was the ghost writer. He retired at O-4.

Enlisted requirements for LDO include being E-6 with a year in grade. It is not possible to get it done by age 19.

https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/officer/communitymanagers/active/ldo_cwo/Pages/applicantinformation.aspx

LDO

Enlisted eligibility requirements for the active duty and inactive duty LDO Program

In addition to the eligibility requirements listed on the eligibility page, LDO applicants must also meet the following requirements:

a. Be serving as a Petty Officer First Class (E-6) or Chief Petty Officer (E-7 through E-9). An E-6 must have served in that capacity for at least 1 year as of 1 October of the year application is made. Such service shall be computed from the time-in-rate (TIR) date for an E-6. If broken service is involved, a PO1 must have served a total of at least 1 year as an E-6 as of 1 October of the year application is made.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-10-20 18:28:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: sneakypete (#21)

I don't know about the other branches,but the army had a OCS program that would turn enlisted swine into officers and gentlemen in 90 days. Graduates would receive a RESERVE commission as a 2nd Lt in whatever career field they chose or the army chose upon successful completion of the program instead of the Regular Army Commission that West Point grads and people with battlefield commissions received. MOST that decided to stay in had that converted to a Regular Army Commission after being promoted to 0-3,but I never heard of one going higher than Full Bird. Not even ones that received battlefield commissions due to getting a Medal of Honor,like Ola Mize or Bob Howard. If you wanted a star,you had to be a ring-knocker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_William_Vessey_Jr.

There are a few other Mustangs who made General but how they ended up there is sketchy especially when it comes to battlefield commissions.

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