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Title: PayPal Cuts Off Alex Jones’s Infowars
Source: NY Times
URL Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/ ... gy/paypal-blocks-infowars.html
Published: Sep 22, 2018
Author: Nathaniel Popper
Post Date: 2018-09-22 10:18:00 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 2340
Comments: 22

SAN FRANCISCO — PayPal has become the latest tech giant to cut off Infowars, the conspiracy website run by the right-wing provocateur Alex Jones.

Infowars was informed by PayPal on Thursday night that it would have 10 business days to find a new payment processor.

PayPal handles all transactions, including credit cards, for the Infowars online store. The store has been a significant source of revenue for the company, selling vitamins and nutritional supplements, as well as Infowars-branded apparel. PayPal has also handled donations that Infowars receives from its supporters.

PayPal acted weeks after Twitter, Facebook and other large tech companies blocked Infowars from their services. Most of those companies said the site had violated their policies by promoting hate speech and misinformation.

PayPal said it had made its decision not because of any policy violation but because Infowars’ “promotion of hate and discrimination runs counter to our core value of inclusion.”

“Our values are the foundation for the decision we made this week,” PayPal added.

The aggressive steps against Infowars have become fodder for claims that Silicon Valley companies are biased against conservative voices — an opinion expressed by President Trump and a number of Republican officials. Jeff Sessions, the United States attorney general, plans to meet with Republican state attorneys general next week to discuss the tech industry, competition and free speech.

Mr. Jones attended a recent Senate hearing where Twitter’s Jack Dorsey and Facebook’s Sheryl Sandberg discussed efforts by their companies to deal with disinformation on their platforms. And after a separate House hearing that directly addressed Republican claims that Twitter was biased against conservatives, Mr. Jones tried to confront Mr. Dorsey on Mr. Dorsey’s way out.

After the phaseout period of 10 business days, PayPal will stop doing any business with Infowars and its subsidiaries, like the site Prison Planet, a PayPal spokesman said.

The spokesman declined to cite any specific problems that had led to the decision, but said that after “extensive reviews” the company had “found many instances of content that promoted hate and discriminatory intolerance against certain communities and religions.”

This is not the first time that PayPal has waded into politically fraught territory. In 2010, the company cut off payments to WikiLeaks. More recently, PayPal stopped working with neo-Nazi and alt-right websites.

Records from 2014 show that Mr. Jones’s operations were bringing in nearly $20 million, mostly from supplements, such as Super Male Vitality, which purports to increase testosterone, that he hawks on his radio shows, The New York Times recently reported.

Since being barred from Facebook and Twitter, Infowars has had to find new online platforms, and its audience has fallen off significantly. But PayPal’s decision may be particularly damaging, because it will be much harder for Infowars to find another company to handle transactions for the site.

For now, Infowars is still able to sell at least some of its goods on Amazon and eBay, where its payments are not handled by PayPal.

An article on the Infowars site that announced PayPal’s decision said the move was a “political ploy designed to financially sabotage an influential media outlet just weeks before the midterm elections.”

The article said PayPal had told Infowars that the decision was made because Infowars had violated its “acceptable use policy.” PayPal’s spokesman said its decision went beyond the violation of any single policy.

Right Wing Watch, a progressive advocacy organization, published an article in August pointing out areas where Infowars appeared to be violating PayPal’s terms of service. At the time, PayPal did not take action and offered no comment.

Infowars did not respond to an email requesting comment.


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#13. To: Willie Green (#0)

PayPal Cuts Off Alex Jones

Who really cares...?

The morons who wish to buy this con-man's snake oil will find a way, and the ignorant will continue to follow...

scrape them all off

Jameson  posted on  2018-09-24   18:36:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jameson (#13)

Who really cares...?

So in your fucked up mind. Big tech and big companies should be to cut you off if you say the wrong thing.

Your thinking needs to die.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-09-24   23:47:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#16. To: A K A Stone (#15)

big companies should be to cut you off if

Reminds me of ' campaign finance reform '

vs free speech

The road To hell is paved wiTh good inTenTions

The resulTs are really bad

I'm noT a fan of alex jones

Too much disinformaTion

people need To decide for Themselves

love
boris

BorisY  posted on  2018-09-25 01:32:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#15)

So in your fucked up mind. Big tech and big companies should be to cut you off if you say the wrong thing.

I'm of two minds on this.

The first is the Republican mind, which teaches me that these big tech companies have created and own and operate the space, and as such, have the legal right to decide who may and may not post there, just like you own this website and can permit or ban anyone as you please. That's my private property rights mind.

Then there is my "public space" and anti-monopoly power mind, which says that there is a public space, that people have free speech, and that ultimately the providers of Internet space, especially the huge ones, are quasi monopolies. Like power utilities, they provide a necessary service to the public, and, because of their quasi-monopoly status, the public is a captive audience. They earn huge profits from doing so, and that is their reward: the profits. Because the service they provide is vital, they must not also be permitted, beyond profit, to exert other power, political power - which is what political content control is.

It doesn't matter that the power company owns the lines, or the water company owns the pipes. They are permitted the monopoly, but their rates are regulated. They make a good profit, but they are not permitted to price gouge. And they MUST provide power or water to every single person who pays. That it's a private company is irrelevant when it comes to service. They power company may own the lines, and the water company may own the pipes, but they cannot have the right that businesses normally have to decide who they will. Because of their unique monopoly status, the usual right of businesses to choose their customers must be stripped from them. The power company cannot decide to cut off the power to Communists or Republicans or Democrats or fascists or drug users or whomever. They must be compelled to sell power to ANYBODY who pays for it. They have a monopoly over a vital thing. They are allowed to profit, but they are NOT allowed ANY control over whom they serve. It is more important that everybody have power and water than it is to protect the rights of businesses (power and water companies) to decide who their customers are. Ultimately, public need of vital services trumps private property rights. The consolation prize for the utilities is that they get a guaranteed profit and they get eminent domain powers and all sorts of rights and privileges.

Those are the two competing thoughts. In my mind, with big Internet, the second one prevails. It's a utility. They cannot be permitted to censor.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-09-25 06:11:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#15) (Edited)

Big tech and big companies should be to cut you off if you say the wrong thing.

ok....First - I believe this is what you meant to say:

"..Big tech and big companies should be **allowed** to cut you off - if you say the wrong thing..."

Second - I said no such thing. I said:

"...Who really cares...?"

And allow me to further explain, Jones is a scamming swindler preying on the willfully ignorant and truly stupid.

Paypal cut him off? Who really cares?

I suggest that the only people who care belong to one of the two affore mentioned groups.

Jameson  posted on  2018-09-25 07:20:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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