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Title: Weisselberg Flips
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Vox
URL Source: https://www.vox.com/2018/8/24/17779 ... isselberg-immunity-trump-cohen
Published: Aug 25, 2018
Author: Jen Kirby
Post Date: 2018-08-25 09:55:17 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 6216
Comments: 53
Trump Organization finance chief Allen Weisselberg has been granted immunity in exchange for giving prosecutors information for the investigation into Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer and “fixer” Michael Cohen and the hush money payments Cohen made to women during the 2016 presidential campaign. The Trump Organization CFO’s cooperation is the latest twist in the Manhattan US attorney’s office’s prosecution of Cohen, which began with an FBI raid in April. This week, Cohen pleaded guilty to eight federal charges, implicating the president of the United States in those crimes. Weisselberg is perhaps not as visible a figure in Trumpworld as Cohen, but he might be even more important. He’s served as the Trump Organization’s chief financial officer since 2000 — so if anyone knows about the company’s financials, it’s him. Weisselberg was subpoenaed in the investigation into Cohen, though it hasn’t been confirmed that he has actually appeared before a grand jury, according to the Wall Street Journal. He has met with prosecutors, but the information he’s provided — including whether Trump knew about the payments to the women — is still a question. The raid on Cohen was often seen as the biggest legal threat to Trump, but Weisselberg talking might be an even bigger problem for the president. As the New Yorker’s Adam Davidson, who has covered the Trump Organization extensively, predicted: “Get ready for the Autumn of Allen Weisselberg.” Weisselberg has worked for the Trumps for decades; before joining the company, he worked for Donald Trump’s father, Fred Trump. When Trump became president, he handed over the day-to-day control of the business to his two elder sons and Weisselberg. The CFO had previously been linked to the hush money payment to Stormy Daniels, the porn actress who says she had an affair with Trump in 2006. The charging papers in Cohen’s appear to confirm the connection. Weisselberg wasn’t named in the charging papers, but he’s listed as “Executive-1,” and he arranged a $420,000 reimbursement to Cohen, which included $130,000 Cohen sent to Daniels ahead of the November 2016 election to keep her quiet about her alleged affair with Trump. Weisselberg worked with another, unidentified, Trump Organization executive to make those payments, though it’s unclear if Weisselberg knew the purpose of the retainer to Cohen. He was also named on a secretly recorded tape in September 2016, in which Cohen discusses a payoff to former Playboy model Karen McDougal. At one hard-to-decipher point in the tape, Cohen can be heard telling Trump that he’s “spoken to Allen Weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up …” At the time of the tape’s release last month, Alan Futerfas, an attorney for the Trump Organization, denied to the Washington Post that Weisselberg had any involvement in the payoff and was merely “a bookkeeper who simply carries out directions from others about monetary payments and transfers.” But “bookkeeper” might be a bit of an undersell. Weisselberg, again, took control of the Trump Organization with the president’s two sons. He was also listed as the treasurer for the Trump Foundation, which was recently sued by the New York state attorney general’s office for violating state and federal laws. Weisselberg reportedly also did Trump’s personal tax returns for at least some years. Which means if there’s something sketchy in Trump’s finances, or the finances of the Trump Organization, Weisselberg likely knows about it. He is “deeply familiar with the Trump Organization’s financial housekeeping,” Timothy L. O’Brien, the author of TrumpNation, wrote in Bloomberg on Friday. “Trump — a man who rarely trusts anyone — confided in Weisselberg and relied on him to sign off on details of the company’s most significant deals.” A former Trump Organization employee told NBC reporter Katy Tur last month, after news of his subpoena broke, that Weisselberg “knows where all financial bodies are buried within the Trump organization. He knows Trump’s net worth. He knows any and every expenditure out of Trump Org was approved by Alan [sic].” And that might be of interest not just to prosecutors in the Southern District of New York but to special counsel Robert Mueller. Mueller has reportedly been interested in the finances and business activities of the Trump Organization, including a failed attempt to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. And Weisselberg might have some answers.
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He spoke to prosecutors in the investigation into Michael Cohen,
but he’s the one who knows all about Trump’s businesses.Weisselberg “knows where all the bodies are buried”
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#10. To: Willie Green (#0)
BULLSHIT: [Paragraph 1] REALITY: [Paragraph 4] It is unknown what Weisselberg may have said. It is unknown why he was granted immunity. He could have been granted immunity to force him to testify by taking away his fifth amendment defense. Paragraph 1 is a bunch of speculation unsupported by the cited WSJ article.
True!! Perhaps it has to do with the 1,000,000 files, documents, recordings, videos, etc. in possession of Mr. Mueller and SDNY. How long do you think it will be before we find out?? Over / Under 60 days
That you want Paul Ryan for President?
heh heh heh!!! Good one! The probability of Paul Ryan being the Speaker of the House, when the inevitable occurs, is remote. And let's be honest, it really won't matter who is next in line. Once the end game plays out, the congress and the WH will simply tread water until 2020. I don't want Paul Ryan for anything.....
Once the end game plays out, the congress and the WH will simply tread water until 2020. In your fevered, TDS-afflicted alleged mind, what is "The End Game"? And whom or what do you see as its author? IF you're actually interested in truth at all and the political force behind the scene that pull the levers of power, you may want to take a listen of the Matt Bracken vid I just posted. He explains just how the SES (Gangsta Shadow Govt) and its ongoing collective mass mind-control and molding public opinion takes shape. Bracken notes that when the MSM (and specifically, The New York Times) first heard of Hillary's "Russia-Trump election tampering", they ridiculed it. But that was before they received their orders from their masters, this SES org. Afterward, the entire SES-controlled Media got their script to parrot each other on this "TRUMP-RUSSIA!!" narrative, at times word-for-word.AND the 24/7 smear of Trump, his family, and anyone connected TO him. Upon listening to Bracken's explanation, you may resent being so effortlessly manipulated into taking a certain (Dem-Left) viewpoint and demonizing of Trump so effortlessly that had ZERO basis of fact...without knowing why or how it happened.
I'm familiar with bracken's shtick, he's in the same league as alex jones. He's a waste of time. what is "The End Game"? Easy and simple to understand. Dip-shit Donnie is up to his ears in greasy illegal shit-deals and he's now just a tool for those to whom he owes. That bull-shit is about to catch-up to him and his merry band of jerk-offs. The end game is that he leaves office and is punished for his crimes. No sinister secret societies full of scary puppet-masters. Your president is just another wanna-be big-shot who took money from the wrong "bankers"
Among the greatest scams in history are the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative. That greasy illegal shit runs ocean deep. As for jerkoffs, that's Slick Willie on the job. Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 18.
OK, who gives a shit? You're an attorney, get busy!! bring the Clintons to justice!!! Please!! Do it now, quit bitching about them!!! no one cares any more!!! As for jerkoffs, that's Slick Willie on the job. Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 18. After the sexual encounter, she saw the President masturbate in the bathroom near the sink. I understand - you LOVE to fantasize about this - but come on!!! Either YOU do something about it, or let it go! No One Cares
I understand - you LOVE to fantasize about this - but come on!!! Either YOU do something about it, or let it go! No One Cares That's like no one really, really care is you watch gay porn while you post and occasionally get your links screwed up. Everyone just enjoys seeing your hypocrisy exposed. But as long as no one cares, have a fuller description of your jerk off hero in the White House. https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CDOC-105hdoc310/html/CDOC-105hdoc310.htm REFERRAL FROM INDEPENDENT COUNSEL KENNETH W. STARR of 11 Sep 1998 Select footnootes: 28. They engaged in oral-anal contact as well. See Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo at 18-20 31. As Ms. Lewinsky departed, she observed the President "manually stimulating" himself in Ms. Hernreich's office 35. They engaged in oral-anal contact as well. 37. The President then put the cigar in his mouth and said to Ms. Lewinsky "It tastes good." 41. On this occasion, the President ejaculated 81. She testified after the encounter concluded with the President masturbating into a bathroom sink
I have to second Jameson on this one - I don't care about Clinton's consensual sexual encounters with Monica back in the 1990s. I barely cared then, and I really don't care now. Having an affair disqualifies a man from the Presidency? Nah.
Having an affair disqualifies a man from the Presidency? Nah. I could not possibly care less about what you, Jameson, or others may or may not second or third. And, of course, the whole diversion has not a thing to do with what does, or does not, disqualify a man from the Presidency. The thread, entitled "Weisselberg Flips," contains a thread article which is a riff on a WSJ article, but with unsupported and unsupportable nonsense added to give the appearance of ethereal support to the title claim. In fact, not a scintilla of evidence appears to support the claim that Weisselberg has flipped. I pointed to that lack of substance of the article at #10. Jameson diversion #1 was at #16 when he opimed about why Weisselberg was granted immunity, "Perhaps it has to do with the 1,000,000 files, documents, recordings, videos, etc. in possession of Mr. Mueller and SDNY." Of course, if the alleged 1,000,000 files, documents, etc., were as usable as criminal evidence as they are at a fish and chip shop for wrapping fish, there would be no need at all to grant anyone immunity. Jameson's claim of pre-existing overwhelming evidence is bass ackwards as justification for a grant of immunity. If you have the evidence, you do not need to grant immunity to get the evidence. At #19, we have Jameson diversion #2. At #32, we have Jameson's continuation of the theme of At #34, we have the Jameson continuation of the gay theme, Pence is very obviously a bitter closeted gay man, who hates being in the closet so much that he takes every opportunity to rant against any thing or any one he perceives as "homosexual" It's a sick pattern in the republican world...... and Mike Pence is typical. I do not really give a shit about Jameson's bullshit diversionary claims about Dip Shit Donnie, his merry band of jerk-offs, and Mike Pence obviously being a bitter closeted gay man. I do not really care if you and others fall for Jameson's bullshit and divert all attention away from the actual topic of the thread, and its utter baselessness. If Jameson wishes to divert and trash the thread with bullshit about Trump and Pence, I will leave a big stinking pile of poo about Clinton and Obama, and Jameson's intent is not to create such a memorial to his heroes. Ahh, the vivid images of Clinton and Lewinsky, once seen, cannot be unseen. It is like unseeing Obama showing off his hardon. I suppose that whether one prefers to discuss the actual thread topic of Weisselberg Flips, or to delve deeply into claims about Dip Shit Donnie, his merry band of jerk-offs, and Mike Pence obviously being a bitter closeted gay man; and Clinton's having engaged in oral-anal sex with an intern, and jerking off in a White House sink, whatever. The thread is no longer about Weisselberg Flips, so why not just have some fun at Jameson's expense? Yes indeed, if he is to drop little stinkers here and there, I feel free to drop Clinton poo bombs to provide the proper balance. Please feel free to continue the thoughtful thread discussion of Weisselberg Flips.
LOL!!! Thanks for the rant Chan! You're one funny guy! Listen, sorry for using Willie's serious article as a vehicle for more of my hilarious bad-mouthing of The king of Shit-Holes, Dip-Shit Donnie. I promise to take all this stuff seriously, soon....or eventually.... "Clinton poo bombs" - pretty funny, but I think you can do better! keep it up! We're all really impressed that you're an attorney.....and we're really in awe of you when you copy and paste a bunch of legalese, I almost always think to myself, "Gee.....Chan must be the smartest lawyer in the country.... I wonder if he gets a woody every time he pastes 4 or 500 words, nicely formatted and including BOLD and italics....." Anyway....... Ok so... "If you have the evidence, you do not need to grant immunity to get the evidence." ............maybe.......the prosecutor has a few hundred thousand pages pertaining to the Dip-Shit Organization, that document criminal activity.... Implicated are the organization's CFO & Vice President, perhaps it would be a good idea to speak to those implicated on the record.....right? Knowing that the CFO could certainly invoke the right that allows witnesses to decline to answer questions where the answers might incriminate them......... The offer of immunity seems like a fairly smart move...... but what do I know? I learned everything I know about law from watching "Better Call Saul" Back to your poo bombs....
You're one funny guy! Listen, sorry for using Willie's serious article as a vehicle for more of my hilarious bad-mouthing of The king of Shit-Holes, Dip-Shit Donnie. I promise to take all this stuff seriously, soon....or eventually.... Thank you ever so much for the compliment. I promise to one day take you seriously. It is not that day yet. I am seriously impressed that you find the time to expend blathering about things of which you have no knowledge whatever. In my 20 years on the net, I have never claimed to be a lawyer. You fount of non-knowledge is your apparent observation that I, like most people, can use the google better than you, and that I have more legal knowledge than you. If that showed one was a lawyer, this entire board would be lawyers. Do keep up the effort to show your lack of knowledge. Perhaps I should type sower to make easier for you to keep up. ............maybe.......the prosecutor has a few hundred thousand pages pertaining to the Dip-Shit Organization, that document criminal activity.... Implicated are the organization's CFO & Vice President, And maybe you are just shoveling more shit. What is fact is that there has been no announcement of any indictment based on your slleged few hundred thousand pages of fish wrap. They did not even indict Michael Cohen. While the alleged fish wrap has not been seen, and you have no actual knowledge of anything in it, you are certain in your empty cranium that the alleged hundreds of thousands of pages document criminal activity, and implicated are the organization's CFO and Vice-President. How you know this remains a mystery. That the basis of your assertions is bullshit is clear and knowable. A prosecutor with hundreds of thousands of pages documenting criminal activity has no need to offer immunity to obtain proof. The offer of immunity seems like a fairly smart move...... but what do I know? I learned everything I know about law from watching "Better Call Saul" If you have hundreds of thousands of pages documenting criminal activity, implicating the CFO & Vice President, you may prosecute the CFO & Vice President and let him remain mute or beg for a deal. The dumbest idea on earth is to offer him immunity not knowing what he is going to say. It does sound like you learned your law by watching Better Call Saul. It's all good, man. As a reasonable alternative, you could consider buying a lawbook and reading it. Nah. Stick with Saul. I wonder if you get a woody when posting some dumb ignorance such as, It's a sick pattern in the republican world...... and Mike Pence is typical. Or do you only get a chubby when watching your gay porn? Whatever. I feel your pain when you are faced with Slick Willie's oral-anal sex and jerking off into a sink. But then one can sympathize with his need for windowless hallway sex considering what awaited him in bed. Oh well, it wasn't a wookie. I really do feel your pain. Honestly and sincerely, I feel your pain. And I recognize your finely honed skill at hijacking threads.
Of the two of us, YOU are the only one who even thinks about BC. and it appears that you are focused on his wang... But as Jimmy might say, "It's all good, man, let your freak flag fly!" I don't think of that man, ever. I simply do not care. I never supported him or voted for him. If you or your tribe can find a way to "lock him up" - please do...I won't care eitherway. And I recognize your finely honed skill at hijacking threads. Thanks Chan, your kind words mean the world to me. I certainly enjoy causing most of the purposely ignorant right-wing whack- jobs on this site to melt down...it's easy and fun!! A few of you offer some intelligent banter and I enjoy that too...but not as much! So work on those "poo bomb" jokes and keep thinking of BC's wiener, and the sink, and that woman, Miss Lewinski - and try to have a good evening! ...and remember: Dip-Shit Donnie sold thousands of condos to the russian mobsters in "shell company" all cash deals...... It's called money laundering and there are federal, state, AND international laws forbidding such fuckery......so no pardons will be sufficient campaign finance violations are the least of his crimes.... you're still my 4th favorite lawyer!!!
#53. To: Jameson (#51)
Trump should make good on his threat and pardon himself. Then we can get on with full-on head-exploding meltdowns and barricades - we might even do a credible job at passing for France for a little while.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Trump Organization finance chief Allen Weisselberg has been granted immunity in exchange for giving prosecutors information for the investigation into Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer and “fixer” Michael Cohen and the hush money payments Cohen made to women during the 2016 presidential campaign.
Weisselberg was subpoenaed in the investigation into Cohen, though it hasn’t been confirmed that he has actually appeared before a grand jury, according to the Wall Street Journal. He has met with prosecutors, but the information he’s provided — including whether Trump knew about the payments to the women — is still a question.
#16. To: nolu chan (#10)
It is unknown why he was granted immunity.
#17. To: Jameson, President Paul Ryan (#16)
(Edited)
Pence knew
#18. To: hondo68 (#17)
That you want Paul Ryan for President?
#25. To: Jameson, ALL (#18)
And let's be honest, it really won't matter who is next in line.
#32. To: Liberator (#25)
you may want to take a listen of the Matt Bracken vid
#35. To: Jameson, Liberator (#32)
Dip-shit Donnie is up to his ears in greasy illegal shit-deals and he's now just a tool for those to whom he owes.
That bull-shit is about to catch-up to him and his merry band of jerk-offs.
After the sexual encounter, she saw the President masturbate in the bathroom near the sink.
#39. To: nolu chan (#35)
Among the greatest scams in history are the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative. That greasy illegal shit runs ocean deep.
#43. To: Jameson (#39)
After the sexual encounter, she saw the President masturbate in the bathroom near the sink.
25. After their sexual encounter, she saw the President masturbate in the bathroom near the sink
#44. To: nolu chan (#43)
#48. To: Vicomte13, Jameson, A K A Stone (#44)
I have to second Jameson on this one - I don't care about Clinton's consensual sexual encounters with Monica back in the 1990s. I barely cared then, and I really don't care now.
Ryan would probably love to see Dip-Shit Donnie and his closeted gay companion mikey pence go down....(pun intended!!)
"Dip Shit Donnie ... and his merry band of jerk-offs."
My point was quite easy to understand - for anyone of average intelligence -
#49. To: nolu chan (#48)
(Edited)
I feel free to drop Clinton poo bombs to provide the proper balance.
#50. To: Jameson (#49)
LOL!!! Thanks for the rant Chan!
We're all really impressed that you're an attorney.....and we're really in awe of you when you copy and paste a bunch of legalese, I almost always think to myself, "Gee.....Chan must be the smartest lawyer in the country.... I wonder if he gets a woody every time he pastes 4 or 500 words, nicely formatted and including BOLD and italics....."
Ok so... "If you have the evidence, you do not need to grant immunity to get the evidence."
Knowing that the CFO could certainly invoke the right that allows witnesses to decline to answer questions where the answers might incriminate them.........
Pence is very obviously a bitter closeted gay man, who hates being in the closet so much that he takes every opportunity to rant against any thing or any one he perceives as "homosexual"
#51. To: nolu chan (#50)
Whatever. I feel your pain when you are faced with Slick Willie's oral-anal sex and jerking off into a sink.
Replies to Comment # 51. you're still my 4th favorite lawyer!!!
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