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International News Title: Pro-Confederate Birther Introduced Maria Butina’s Handler to NRA Chief The first American to introduce two of the major players at the heart of a shocking Russian spy scandal has such deep ties to Moscow that he has doubted Barack Obama’s American citizenship in the course of demonstrating his affinity for Vladimir Putin. “As long as U.S. is electing foreign-born presidents,” tweeted Tennessee attorney G. Kline Preston IV in 2013, “I propose Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.” Two years later, at a rally featuring soon-to-be-President Donald Trump, Preston tweeted: “Donald Trump today in Nashville. He is a friend of Russia.” He wrote the message in Russian. In other words, at the very beginning of what appears to be an audacious geopolitical gambit to pivot the American right in Moscow’s direction is a birther who has explicitly stated a preference for Vladimir Putin to run the United States of America. He’s also something of a Confederate enthusiast, according to his Facebook activity.
Preston’s offline activities mirror his social-media habits. He’s occasionally works as a freelance elections observer for Russia, testifying about the fidelity and freedom of various Russian elections and bringing Moscow an American voice it can point to for legitimacy. And he’s brought officials to his home state of Tennessee to witness an American presidential election up close. Preston is also tied to Marsha Blackburn, a conservative congresswoman running for Senate in Tennessee. It’s just a small indicator of Preston’s longstanding ties to Russia, and in particular to Alexander Torshin. Torshin, a former Russian parliamentarian now under Treasury Department sanctions, is a friend and confidant of Preston, who has described Torshin as a client. In 2011, according to multiple accounts, Preston introduced Torshin to David Keene, then the president of the National Rifle Association. (Torshin “was interested in the NRA so I hooked him up,” Preston told The Tennessean earlier this year.) It’s the first known contact between the NRA and the Russians, and it wouldn’t be the last. Related in PoliticsPreston’s ties to Torshin are particularly significant now that a Torshin protégé is accused of infiltrating the NRA to tilt the supremely influential lobby group in a pro-Russian direction—and with it, the Republican Party. Last week, federal prosecutors charged Maria Butina, a Russian national who made inroads to the U.S. right through a stated love of guns, with being an unregistered Russian agent, tight with Russian intelligence, who traded sex for influence in American right-of-center circles. A figure matching Torshin’s description is listed in court documents only as a “Russian Official.” Butina, working with Torshin, spent years cozying up to American conservatives to sell them on Russia as a natural ally for the American right. Preston was there first. Preston studied in Russia as an undergraduate and speaks the language fluently, according to a 2002 article in the Nashville Business Journal. His Facebook page says he studied at Leningrad State University. According to his LinkedIn page, Preston has 20 years of experience doing business with Russia. The page also boasts that he gave a speech to the Russian Duma in 2009 and that he is an expert on Russian copyright issues. Indeed, Preston even published a 2008 book on Russian copyright law and represented the Russian pop singer Sergey Lazarev in a licensing dispute over his song “Almost Sorry.” A cached version of Preston’s law office’s website boasts of extensive work with Russian clients. He claims to have organized a “visit, participation and conference for Russian Government Officials to attend the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association.” Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Communism is ouTlawed in russia PuTin for homeland securiTy Fu If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys ! #2. To: Willie Green (#0) has such deep ties to Moscow that he has doubted Barack Obama’s American citizenship You killed it right there. You argument is crap so why waste my or our time reading any farther?
#3. To: Willie Green (#0) Daily Beast There is your problem. Far left nutbag rag of BS and distortion. You can get better and more accurate news from PrisonPlanet Alex jones rag.
How pathetic!!!
#4. To: Justified (#2) Exposing dumbass Birthers as useful idiots of Moscow disinformation campaign is starting to make a whole lotta sense...
#5. To: Willie Green (#4) If we are talking useful idiots of Mother Russia look to the Demoncrap party. Who over the years has sucked up to commies on a regular bases.
To this day no one has seen the real birth certificate for Obama. It was destroyed conveniently so no one could know the truth one way or the other. His ho of a mother was a commie bitch. Obama listen and gets advice from the most racist sob on the earth.
In the end
#6. To: Willie Green (#4) You need House arresT In a zoo PlaneT of The apes Dog rabies QuaranTine If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys ! #7. To: Willie Green, Justified, Natural born Kenyans and Canadians, Panama Juan McCain (#4) dumbass Birthers as useful idiots of Moscow Justi is right, it's a crappy fake argument. He never even said that Obama isn't a US citizen. What he said was that Obama was born in Kenya. So he might be a naturalized citizen because of his mothers US citizenship, but he's NOT eligible to be a US president. He's not a natural born US citizen, just like Ted Cruz is not either even though he's a naturalized US citizen due to a US citizen parents (at least his mother). He was born in Canada, so he's not a natural born US citizen. Go ahead and continue to ignore the Constitution, I'm sure that you will. There are a few minimal requirement to be US president in the US Constitution, and those two don't fill the bill. Add Panama born Juan McCain to the list too.
#8. To: hondo68 (#7) If you have ciTizen parenTs --- Born on The moon --- You would be a naTural born ciTizen ThaT Trumps The physical locaTion Love If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys ! #9. To: BorisY, moonie (#8) If you have ciTizen parenTs You're eligible to be president on the moon.
#10. To: Willie Green (#0)
The first American to introduce two of the major players at the heart of a shocking Russian spy scandal has such deep ties to Moscow that he has doubted Barack Obama’s American citizenship in the course of demonstrating his affinity for Vladimir Putin. The most shocking thing is that it was a nefarious plot to infiltrate the NRA.
Preston’s ties to Torshin are particularly significant now that a Torshin protégé is accused of infiltrating the NRA to tilt the supremely influential lobby group in a pro-Russian direction—and with it, the Republican Party. Oh, the humanity. Someone should have just told them that membership in the NRA is open to the public. Just send your membership application and payment.
#11. To: hondo68 (#7)
What he said was that Obama was born in Kenya. So he might be a naturalized citizen because of his mothers US citizenship, but he's NOT eligible to be a US president. As Obama never went through the naturalization process, there is no chance whatever that he is a naturalized U.S. citizen. Obama is not eligible to be U.S. President because he has already been twice elected U.S. President, and has served two full four year terms of office.
He's not a natural born US citizen, just like Ted Cruz is not either even though he's a naturalized US citizen due to a US citizen parents (at least his mother). He was born in Canada, so he's not a natural born US citizen. Whether one is a natural born U.S. citizen depends on one's U.S. citizenship status at birth, not on the place of birth. Ted Cruz acquired U.S. citizenship at the time of his birth in Canada. Ted Cruz was never naturalized, and he was never eligible for naturalization, which is available only for aliens. Citizenship at birth is determined by the 14th Amendment definition for those born within the territory and jurisdiction of the United States, and by federal law applicable at the time of birth to those born outside the territory or jurisdiction of the United States.
#12. To: BorisY, hondo68 (#8)
If you have ciTizen parenTs Not necessarily true with birth outside the United States. It all depends upon the federal law in effect at the time of birth. It can get complicated, especially when the law is poorly written.
#13. To: Justified (#5) If we are talking useful idiots of Mother Russia look to the Demoncrap party. Who over the years has sucked up to commies on a regular bases. Shame on you for reminding them of that. Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! #14. To: nolu chan (#11) (Edited) Ted Cruz acquired U.S. citizenship at the time of his birth in Canada. By statue, and that's not the same as natural born US citizen. He's a natural born Canadian, because that's where he was born. He just a regular US citizen, naturalized by legislative statue, which doesn't require any formal process if you have a US citizen parent who meets the residency and other requirements contained therein. You're good at finding legislation and court rulings, not so much at understanding them.
#15. To: hondo68 (#14)
By statue, and that's not the same as natural born US citizen. He's a natural born Canadian, because that's where he was born. He just a regular US citizen, naturalized by legislative statue, which doesn't require any formal process if you have a US citizen parent who meets the residency and other requirements contained therein. You are not good at finding laws or court opinions, but are very good at just blowing it out of your ass. Do you have any other citable source for your ridiculous claims? A person born a citizen is a natural born citizen. A alien who acquires U.S. citizenship at some time after birth is a naturalized citizen. There is no other recognized class of citizen. Whether Canada also considers, or ever considered, Cruz to be a Canadian citizen is irrelevant. Pursuing this line of ignorance, if Canada decided to enact a law that made Canadian citizens of all non-black persons born in the United States, the only people eligible for U.S. President would be black people. United States citizenship law is not affected by what other nations do. Congress wrote a law in its very first session:
And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States:.... 1 Stat. 103 (26 March 1890)
Alexander Hamilton wrote in 1787, "No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States." http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/hlaw:@field(DOCID+@lit(fr003449)):
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#16. To: Willie Green (#0) Methinks you've been wanking your willie too frequently. Unfortunately you are now suffering from rectitus,. Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs. #17. To: IbJensen (#16) Spoken like a true, dumbass Birther...
#18. To: Willie Green (#17) Why did Obama say he was the first President from Kenya this month? Were you uninformed of that or do you just have your blinders on? We already you lie to yourself whemn you pretend you aren't a murderer at heart. Why do you hate children so much Willie?
#19. To: Willie Green (#17) Who really was his father, Willie Wanker? Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
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