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Opinions/Editorials Title: Libertarians on Liberty’s Post suppress dissent – Sad. Unfortunately these narrow-minded individuals do not realize that the best remedy to validate their political ideology is to catechize remarks that disparage it by subjecting them to the crucible of open debate and rational inspection. Libertarians continually fail to show tolerance and adhere to cherished “libertarian” values while abdicating all confidence that their ideas will handily defeat opposition to their philosophy. Libertarians propose the impossible and internally contradictory notion that they can support their cause with the angry suppression of free speech from anyone who speaks against them. They feel the remedy for comments and ideas they oppose is not the free and open debates of civil society, but a need to resort to Orwellian speech codes of an authoritarian dictatorship. Here, again, libertarians reveal their philosophy is a radical departure from a normal society and their unique iteration of fascism shares many of its historical and ideological roots. Freedom of speech is arguably a most cherished value and the bedrock of a genuinely free society. The entire process of education and the freedom to challenge ideas is, and must be, predicated on unbridled freedom of speech and expression. Without this most cherished freedom, supporting and challenging ideas cannot be examined and assessed for their value and we will therefore live in a benighted world in which ideas are lost forever….flushed down the memory hole as too dangerous or offensive to the dainty sensibilities of libertarians who find these words offend them. The validity of libertarian notions has been questioned and a morally consistent application of libertarian premises has been challenged in order to show why libertarians are mistaken about what their ideal requires. Libertarians generally defend the ideal of freedom from the perspective of how little one is constrained. Yet pragmatic criticisms of libertarianism now go unanswered because libertarians have moved to silence free speech. Sad, but so understandably predictable based on their rhetoric and actions. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-92) not displayed.
You sure about that? Yes, he is. Actually, Mouaz Moustafa is SETF’s executive-director and he is a former field organizer for the U.S. Democratic National Committee and previously served as executive-director of the Libyan Council of North America. Can you please provide the URL source? Here is the information I have:
#94. To: CZ82, A K A Stone, CZ82 has a question for your (#89) Not. It was when she was away on vacation or lying dead on the floor of her abode, one or the other. And I very clearly remember telling you and the Canaries you were all full of shit and then your backpedaling started and "magically" LP stayed online, go figure. Why didn’t YOU ping Stone so he could answer that question. I will ping Stone for you now….then you can ask him.
#95. To: CZ82 (#91) (Edited) Is the meme the one you use to masturbate with, or do you atill have an old photo of Hillary you use?
#96. To: CZ82 (#88) I found this;
#97. To: Stoner, Tooconservative, Deckard, Gatlin (#22) Last I heard, Liberty's Post is closed, and has been for some time now. FYI, the Liberty Post archives are still there.
#98. To: nolu chan, redacted, censored, revisionist history, buckeroo, Fred Mertz (#97) (Edited) FYI, the Liberty Post archives are still there. It's revisionist history, censored to protect the guilty. The yukon canary story - redacted
#99. To: hondo68 (#98) It's revisionist history, censored to protect the guilty. The internet lives forever. Just so you do not feel cheated. - - - - - - - - - - March 27th was a Sunday. yukon posted the article on LP at 2011-03-27 01:39:54 ET Less than a minute later, yukon on LP posted to Goldi, "I used the wrong link" at 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET It was on TPF at 2011-03-27 11:50:22 [dead site] It was on F4um at 2011-03-27 13:14:48 It was all over LF at 2011-03-27 17:03:49 https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19063
Title: Yukon Posts Gay Porn Link as His "Favorite Website" Over on LP by mistake and Goldi is not around to delete it - - - - - - - - - - http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19110&Disp=0
Weird Stuff/Unexplained - - - - - - - - - - http://the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=23395 [dead site]
Title: yukon comes out of the closet and admits he is gay (like most gay hating Republicans) - - - - - - - - - -
#100. To: VxH (#84) I get it …
#101. To: VxH (#83) Your post here is unimportant to the discussion at hand. “Raised questions” but unanswered are in no way useful to what is being discussed. Run along now and come back to join in the discussion when you can keep with what is being discussed and have some “pertinent and factual information” to share.
#102. To: Gatlin (#100) I get it … Doesn't leave much bandwidth headroom for getting anything else, does it.
#103. To: CZ82, GrandIsland (#90)
#104. To: CZ82, GrandIsland (#90) why don't you ask buckeroo how many times I've posted to him over the years, 10 times maybe... I do not keep score of such matters. You can use the search routines built into LF for such matters. I am more interested about quality of opinion, that is to say, original poster opinion.
#105. To: Gatlin (#93) It is your “allegation” and it is your charge to “prove” it. My allegation? All I said was he's a Brotherhood member that's how he got started and he runs the SETF. Which would make that organization basically part of them since a member is running it and so are most of the folks on the SETFs Board of Trustees (yes they have one surprisingly enough). Maybe you should do a little research on that Board of Trustees it should be quite enlightening as to who's in bed with who. So it doesn't sound like you're trying very hard to find his early history or that of the SETF, bta I would imagine some people would like that to remain hidden from public view, like maybe how some in the Republican party have been working with them just as much as the Dims have. Maybe you should look into GWBs history/ties with the oil business, I'd think you'd find ties to the Muslim Brotherhood in Talat Othman and some with George Soros. Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! #106. To: Gatlin (#95) Don’t like McCain at all. Don’t even vote for him. I have posted that before. Is the meme the one you use to masturbate with, or do you atill have an old photo of Hillary you use? Here this should help you figure out what some of your issues are. http://treating-borderline-personality.weebly.com/psychological-projection- facts-you-should-know.html Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! #107. To: Gatlin (#94) So? Why would you bozo me 7 times? I did not say 7 times, think about it. Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! #108. To: Gatlin (#94) Wasn't it about 10-15 or so? More/less? You don't seem to be too proud of your past, having your own little echo chamber of sock puppets parroting what you claimed/said. To tell you the truth it was hilarious cause it was so obvious, especially when they slobbered too much. Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! #109. To: CZ82 (#105) Look, asshole. I caught you in lying. Mouaz Moustafa is not and never was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. Furthermore...you still have been unable to provide any photos of McCain with member of the Muslim Brotherhood. Looks like we are finished here unless you can come up with some positive evidence and stop with the “allegations” and “basically” shit.
#110. To: CZ82 (#106) Ah, the old ad hominem attack. The last resort when all else has failed you.
#111. To: Gatlin. CZ82, hondo68 (#109) Mouaz Moustafa is not and never was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. All evidence to the contrary. Speaker Paul Ryan Embraces Top Muslim Brotherhood Lobbyist Ryan and Mouaz Moustafa are on the same page when it comes to Syria ...the Muslim Brotherhood has an extremely powerful lobbying arm in the U.S. Perhaps the most prominent face of that arm is a man named Mouaz Moustafa, head of the Syrian Emergency Task Force (SETF). Here is a photo of Moustafa with Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI): Speaker Ryan (L) and Muslim Brotherhood operative Mouaz Moustafa (R) Prior to leading the SETF, Moustafa led the Libyan Emergency Task Force (LETF), which had removing Gadhafi as its primary goal. Prior to that Moustafa worked for the Muslim Brotherhood opposition in Egypt. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.#112. To: CZ82, A K A Stone (#107) I did not say 7 times, think about it. You specifically stated in your Post #89: My question stands, which was: Why would you bozo me 7 times?
#113. To: Gatlin (#112) Keep in mind the aforementioned paragraph from the Times article. Note that on April 22, 2011, hundreds of rifles were “sent from Benghazi to Misrata,” according to the report. Something else happened on that day. McCain was in Benghazi – with U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and told an Al-Jazeera reporter that the Libyan (Muslim Brotherhood) rebels were his “heroes” on the same day they were receiving weapons:
Little more than one year later and just 90 days before the Benghazi attacks, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) sent a letter to the Inspector’s General office of the State Department. In that letter, Bachmann raised legitimate concerns about the Muslim Brotherhood connections of very close Hillary Clinton adviser Huma Abedin. It was John McCain who further implicated himself in the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood by defending Abedin and denouncing Bachmann, as Shoebat.com has reported. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.#114. To: Deckard, CZ82 (#111) Well, “working for” in no way means a “member of.” Mouaz Moustafa worked for the US Congress. So, in your mind and using your applied rational, did working for Congress make Mouaz Moustafa a member of the US Congress? Get fucking real, asshole!!!
#115. To: Deckard (#113) We are still discussing Stoner’s erroneous allegation that there are photos of McCain with members of the “Muslim Brotherhood.” We are NOT discussing what McCain did, or did not, do concerning the allegation that “hundreds of rifles were “sent from Benghazi to Misrata”. You want to bring this in for discussion...then start another thread.
#116. To: Gatlin (#115) We are NOT discussing what McCain did, or did not, do concerning the allegation that “hundreds of rifles were “sent from Benghazi to Misrata”. Not surprising that you continue to deny McCain's (and Ryan's) involvement with the Muslim Brotherhood. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.#117. To: Deckard, Gatlin. CZ82, Paul Ryan. Muslim Brotherhood (#111)
Note the crazed jihadi look in his eyes.
#118. To: Gatlin (#114) It was John McCain who further implicated himself in the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood by defending Abedin and denouncing Bachmann Why would a "patriotic" American (like you claim McCain is) denounce a member of his own party (Michelle Bachmann) for raising concerns about the Muslim Brotherhood and then turn around and support Hillary aide Huma Abedin? “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.#119. To: Deckard (#116) Not surprising that you continue to deny McCain's (and Ryan's) involvement with the Muslim Brotherhood. I merely challenged Stoner’s lie when he stated that McCain appeared in photos with members of the Muslim Brotherhood. No asshole [you, Stoner, CZ82, or hondo] has been able to produce any such photos. Now out of embarrassment, you are trying to redirect to a different subject. Pathetic …
#120. To: hondo68 (#117)
#121. To: Deckard (#118) Where are the DAMNED photos? Stay on TOPIC.
#122. To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#120) Note the crazed jihadi look in his eyes. Attaboy simpleton. So all of these images are "Photoshopped"? Good grief!! “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.#123. To: Gatlin (#121) It was John McCain who further implicated himself in the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood by defending Abedin and denouncing Bachmann You frickin' assclown. How much more evidence do you need. The pictures have been posted. That you continue to deny McCain's traitorous alliances speaks volumes about your grasp of reality. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.#124. To: Deckard (#122) Not the beard, asshole….the “crazed jihadi look in Ryan’s eyes.” No! All imagers of Ryan with a beard ar not photoshopped. Only the one with the “crazed” eyes….so far. Speaking of crazed….you definitely have a crazed deductive rational. Good Lord!
#125. To: Deckard (#123) No photos of McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood have ever been posted anywhere. Stop your LYING and try to post here and now, a link of any alleged photo showing McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood. You CANNOT….because there are NONE.
#126. To: Gatlin (#124) That photo that I posted is really a picture of Paul Ryan, no photoshopping just a camera. Get a grip!
#127. To: hondo68 (#126) That photo that I posted is really a picture of Paul Ryan, no photoshopping just a camera. Get a grip! Too late - he's gone way off the deep end defending terrorist enabler McCain on this thread. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.#128. To: hondo68 (#126)
#129. To: Stoner, CZ82, Deckard, hondo68, anybody (#55) I [Gatlin] say you are a damned liar and no such photos exits of “McCain with members of the Muslim Broherhood”…now TRY to prove me wrong. Where….WHERE....where are they?
#130. To: Gatlin (#129) Where….WHERE....where are they? Here you've stewed long enough any longer and you'll have forgotten. Here's a little something to get you and others thinking about just who all might be Muslim Brotherhood members, and how many of them have associated with McCain over the years.
HAMAS, the Muslim Brotherhood and the Islamic State May 31, 2017Christopher Holton by Christopher W. Holton New developments in the Middle East are focusing attention on the Muslim Brotherhood’s role in Jihadist terrorism. These new developments are particularly important because there is legislation in Congress aimed at designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO): https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/68/text?format=txt There should be no controversy over the designation of the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. The Muslim Brotherhood is in fact the forerunner of all Sunni Jihadist organizations. Moreover, the Muslim Brotherhood has been directly involved in Jihadist terrorism. It was the Muslim Brotherhood that formed HAMAS (an acronym for “Islamic Resistance Movement”), the Jihadist terrorist organization that seeks to replace Israel with an Islamic state ruled by sharia. Here are some key passages from the HAMAS charter: Rest of the article is at the link: https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2017/05/31/hamas-the-muslim-brotherhood- and-the-islamic-state/ Speaking of pics maybe you remember McCain's meeting with Mohammed Morsi? If so it shouldn't take much for you or anybody else to find that pic. Almost forgot McCain was for HAMAS before he was against HAMAS when he tried to use say Obozo was in bed with HAMAS during the 2008 campaign. HINT, HINT... Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! #131. To: Gatlin (#129) Where….WHERE....where are they? Here you like pics I have a few more for you Oh my she was hired to be an assistant to McCain but is also a front "person" for the MB and is political director for the SETF which is headed by Mouaz Moustafa, oh she's such a naughty girl. Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! #132. To: Gatlin (#129) Where….WHERE....where are they? Here this one should give you a woody. Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
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