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Title: Libertarians Are Insane
Source: Restoring Liberty
URL Source: http://joemiller.us/2016/06/libertarians-are-insane/
Published: Jun 7, 2016
Author: Jeremy A. Sims
Post Date: 2018-07-14 20:50:27 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 238
Comments: 21

I’ve been calling myself a Libertarian since 2008. I’m beginning to think I’ve made a mistake.

For me, voting for Hillary is clearly out of the questions since she’s socialist in everything but name and voting for Trump is also off the table since he’s a habitual liar and vindictive bully whose positions vary from strong conservative to left of Hillary depending on his mood and the time of day. Since I generally want the government to get out of my business, you might think the Libertarians would be a perfect fit for me, and I though so too for a time, and yet…

On paper, the Libertarians are great. Looking over the Libertarian platform, I object strong to abortion, but beyond that, I find myself in nigh complete agreement. Personal freedom, economic liberty and minimalist government? Sign me up!

However, I’ve spent a lot of time over the past month looking more carefully at the Libertarian movement, and sadly I’ve found that though their official positions are sound, they have an huge problem, the Libertarian Party is infested with druggies, anarchists and social imbeciles.

Let me break it down for you.

Druggies

The Libertarian Party supports drug legalization, and this causes a problem. The problem isn’t the position itself but the fact that this position attracts large amounts of stoners who don’t care about anything other than drugs. This stoner-centric thinking causes Libertarians to spend an unnecessary large amount of time discussing issue. Perhaps the best example of this occurred at the recent Libertarian Party National Convention where the Libertarians got some rare coverage on C-Span. Through the entire televised portion of the convention, the Libertarians only showed one policy video, and what video did they choose as the most important thing they must tell the nation? They wasted six minutes of national air time on a mini- documentary about a pot dispensary. (11:30 to 17:30) I think drugs should be legalized, but instead of emphasizing how it’s your right to get high, why don’t the Libertarians emphasize the fact that there are people dying of terminal diseases every year that are denied the opportunity to try experimental drugs because the FDA hasn’t approved of them? Better yet, why not take those six minutes to talk about an issue of greater importance like the national debt, domestic spying or any one of several dozen other pressing concerns? If there weren’t so many of them stoned, the Libertarians might realize how stupid it is to make pot their central issue.

Anarchists

Libertarianism represents small government not zero government, and yet there’s a sizable and vocal faction of the Libertarian movement usually posting the #TaxationIsTheft mantra that believes all government is wrong. Though the anarchy position is rejected by Libertarian think tanks, anarchist ramblings among the base are significant. These words from libertarian anarchist Christopher Cantwell typify this view. “Libertarians are anarchists, whether they realize it or not…the goal is not to win your elections, the goal is to turn a large enough minority against the legitimacy of the State as to make its continued function impossible.”

I’m all for drastically reducing the size and scope of government, but anybody who thinks that we should all be living in the world of Max Max is nuts.

Social Imbeciles

The Libertarians present themselves horribly. To a certain degree, the lack of polish is understandable. After all, nobody donates money to Libertarians and few people actually are Libertarians, so they’re drawing from a limited pool or resources and you can understand why they don’t necessarily have the political and media sophistication to match the mainstream parties, yet Libertarians problems aren’t just in terms of polish but in a complete misunderstanding of the rules of polite society.

Examples of this can be found everywhere, but the latest and greatest example was brought to light by James Weeks II who while running for the position of Libertarian Party Chair stripped on stage at the National Convention while it was being broadcast on C-Span. To their credit, most of the Libertarians in the room rejected the strip tease and jeered the juvenile display, but if the discussions I’ve seen online are any indicator, a large portion of Libertarians see no problem with Weeks’ strip routine.

When this is allowed to happen and celebrated by a good portion of the community, it either means that the Libertarians don’t even take themselves seriously or they have no understanding whatsoever of social standards, and either way, it’s incredibly damaging to the movement.

Conclusion

In theory, Libertarians hold most of the principles that the United States needs to adopt to get back on the right track, and for my money, the severely flawed Libertarian presidential candidate is still a much better alternative to Hillary and Trump, but I’m not sure I want to call myself a Libertarian anymore because a bunch of people in the Libertarian Party are out of their mind.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

I’ve found that though their official positions are sound, they have an huge problem, the Libertarian Party is infested with druggies, anarchists and social imbeciles.

Ha... no shit. Your trashy peers have stunk up this chit chat channel. So it’s well known here.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-07-14   21:10:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

In theory, Libertarians hold most of the principles that the United States needs to adopt to get back on the right track, and for my money, the severely flawed Libertarian presidential candidate is still a much better alternative to Hillary and Trump.

I agree.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.

Deckard  posted on  2018-07-15   0:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GrandIsland (#1) (Edited)

Your trashy peers have stunk up this chit chat channel.

Oh the irony!

A foul-mouthed, uncultured and rude, intellectually bankrupt neanderthal with absolutely zero social skills calling his betters "trashy".

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.

Deckard  posted on  2018-07-15   0:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: GrandIsland (#1)

Your trashy peers have stunk up this chit chat channel.

Ha Ha!!

tater is a peer?

Keep 'em coming, FireIsland. I need the laughs.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-07-15   1:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Fred Mertz, Gatlin (#4)

tater is a peer?

I was obviously talking to the AUTHOR... you retard. It doesn’t take much to TRIGGER a snowflake like you and Dicktard.

Because you are too retarded to look, here is the articles author... the one who pisses on his country and then writes articles telling it’s readers it’s RAINING. lol

tater is a peer?

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-07-15   7:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#0)

What's with all of the bullschitt Libertarian articles the last week or so?

You're getting just as bad as those who see racism in "everybody else's" actions/thoughts/speech when they should be looking in the mirror.

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-07-15   7:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Gatlin (#0)

The Libertarian Party supports drug legalization, and this causes a problem. The problem isn’t the position itself but the fact that this position attracts large amounts of stoners who don’t care about anything other than drugs.

And as evidenced by the recent U.S. Supreme Court nomination:

The Democrat Party supports abortion, and this causes a problem. The problem isn’t the position itself but the fact that this position attracts large amounts of women who don’t care about anything other than abortion.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-07-15   8:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#0)

but anybody who thinks that we should all be living in the world of Max Max is nuts.

I'm sure thet's a typo. It should be "Mad Mad".

misterwhite  posted on  2018-07-15   8:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin (#0)

In theory, Libertarians hold most of the principles that the United States needs to adopt to get back on the right track,

Then why not introduce Libertarianism at the local level, then expand? We have Democrats and Republicans at all levels of government, but once every four years a Libertarian pops up like Punxsutawney Phil and runs for President.

Trump ran as a Republican and, as President, gets zero support from the Democrats and grudging support from his own party. A Libertarian will get no support, and his only power will be to veto everything that comes his way. It won't be long before he is cast as an obstructionist by both parties and possibly impeached.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-07-15   8:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GrandIsland (#5)

Geeze….it was so blatantly obvious you were addressing your comment to the author.

These assholes never cease to ever amaze me by continually showing how dumb they are.

There are some really-really dumb ones, but Fred is the most stupid of them all.

Well …

After Bucky of course.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-15   9:30:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: CZ82 (#6)

What's with all of the bullschitt Libertarian articles the last week or so?

Yeah. Just like Deckard and all his anti-cop articles.

Though I've never seen you complain about that.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-07-15   9:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: CZ82 (#6)

What's with all of the bullschitt Libertarian articles the last week or so?
The articles decimating the libertarian philosophy are numerous because so many people are showing the cult appeal of the libertarian idea seems to persist despite the mountains of evidence that their idea of the free market is not efficient, not fair and not free from periodic catastrophes.
You're getting just as bad as those who see racism in "everybody else's" actions/thoughts/speech when they should be looking in the mirror.
Thank you. I am glad to learn that my efforts to expose libertarians for what they really are is recognized as successful.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-15   9:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite, CZ82 (#11) (Edited)

He obviously didn’t get the memo from Tooconservative about his ORGANIZED crusade to stop everyone from commenting on the articles I present for consideration and open discussion, or any of my posts.

Oh well, there is always the 1%.

That even happens with Deckard and his TFTP articles where they both try to make the 1% of bad cops appear to be the overwhelming majority of all cops.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-15   10:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: GrandIsland, Fred Mertz (#5)

tater is a peer?

I was obviously talking to the AUTHOR...

No you weren't - you were posting to Gatlin.

Your quote: Your trashy peers have stunk up this chit chat channel.

Tell us, when did the author of this article become a member of this "chit chat channel"?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.

Deckard  posted on  2018-07-15   11:04:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#14)

Your quote: Your trashy peers have stunk up this chit chat channel.

That’s correct.... YOU are one of the authors PEERS. A FUCKING PAULTARD. Holy shit, are you fucking stupid. lol

Read the post again... maybe you and the others that are akin to the author, might wise the fuck up. Stop trashing up this site, and stop allowing authors like that paultard to trash it up, too.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-07-15   19:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: GrandIsland Deckard (#15)

Read the post again...
It will not matter to him. He reads everything the way he wants to believe it.

He is far too STUPID to understand the clarity of anything.

Deckard is probably the biggest dumb fuck around....right after buckeroo and Fred, of course.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-15   19:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Deckard (#14) (Edited)

Tell us, when did the author of this article become a member of this "chit chat channel"?

When his peers, you PAULTARDS POST HIS BULLSHIT. That makes him just as guilty of trashing up LP and LF, as all you PAULTARDS, his peers... who post his BULLSHIT.

You are dumber than a condom filled with shit.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-07-15   19:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Gatlin (#16) (Edited)

Well, he’s off the rails more than I’ve ever seen him... I mean what the fuck???? WHY WOULD I CALL YOU A PAULTARD? You don’t suck Ron Paul’s cock. But I can make a lengthy list of posters (and that author) that does. lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-07-15   19:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: GrandIsland (#18)

They just make up shit to go after someone.

I read the post and I knew exactly what you meant.

But then since I am not a retarded libertarian, it is easy for me to understand basic meanings.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-15   19:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Gatlin (#19)

But then since I am not a retarded libertarian, it is easy for me to understand basic meanings.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-07-15   20:34:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: misterwhite (#11)

What's with all of the bullschitt Libertarian articles the last week or so?

Yeah. Just like Deckard and all his anti-cop articles.

Though I've never seen you complain about that.

I haven't lately but then again most of the issues with cops is politically related.

You really have to wonder how many issues with the cops is related to policies or lack of guidance from the mayor and city councils?? And most of those city council people in the big city ghettos are Leftards. But for some reason that doesn't seem to be getting much play by those pro cop posters here who are constantly dogging the libertarians, projecting seems to be more satisfying/amusing I guess...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2018-07-16   8:47:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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